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Orphan Black Season 4 |OT| Paul Free Since 2015 Thursdays at 9/10c on BBC America
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KibblesBits
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They reference her speaking Ukranian, but I don't recall her actually doing it directly.
Jay Shadow
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Only non-English word she's ever spoken was her scorpion's name, now that I think of it. And no German from Katja. Or Finnish from MK.
Man, Tatiana is really a slacker.
KibblesBits
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It's also implied that Rachel knows more languages due to business deals such as Korean.
Teehee
Jay Shadow
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KibblesBits
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Well...
Previews Spoilery Speculation
If you've seen the previews and what Krystal does they pretty much have no choice in the matter anymore...
Jay Shadow
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Krystal? What Krystal? All I saw was a savvy TMZ reporter flawlessly blending into a crowd.
Cornballer
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.Eric Goldman said:
EDIT:
- THR: 'Orphan Black' Renewed for Fifth and Final Season
10-episode final season will air in 2017.
Jay Shadow
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Nice to get the renewal announcement out of the way before the finale tonight.
Orphan Black Finale Sneak Peek:
Orphan Black Finale Sneak Peek:
Krystal Is Unimpressed With Her Clone
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I'm ok with this. Orphan Black is not one of those shows you can stretch forever (the writing was already convoluted enough during S2 and S3) and from the look of this season it looks like the writers are taking speed towards its conclusion. Having a proper timeframe will probably help the writers to tie everything together and end the show with a good note. S4 has done a lot fixing most of the problems from the previous season, so here's hoping.
Besides, it's about time Tatiana and Jordan move on to bigger and better things. Those two deserve to get a lot more work and recognition.
KibblesBits
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It was always planned to be about four or five seasons. Good to hear that things are on track.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Considering how fast season 4 is moving, it makes sense that 5 will be the last.
Jay Shadow
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They said 5 was about all they had story for last year. Although before this year of course they back tracked a bit and said they could extend it if needed.
It's been a good run, and I'm glad that they're ending it on their terms at least.
The show is too tightly packed that it probably couldn't have sustained itself past maybe six seasons anyway. Especially not when we all basically know the formula of bringing in a new threat, only for another new threat to emerge after. Can't see that working, unless they spin the show in another direction.
YES. I'm glad that the show has given them some notice. Here's hoping they both get scooped up for even better opportunities.
I'm never sad about final season announcements - it means the creators can end it on their own terms
Sometimes I'm still sad about hearing a show is getting it's final season but I'm okay with this show ending next year. 5 years is a great run and I think this show has held up in quality / gotten better with time so I can see it having a very strong final season.
PHOENIXZERO
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Yeah, not bummed about that, at least it'll get to finish on its own terms.
Good. This show shouldn't get dragged out too much.
RatskyWatsky
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Fantastic news! Very happy to see that they'll get to wrap things up on their own terms.
KibblesBits
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Incoming...
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Dom-Rachel is SO HOT
KibblesBits
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Oh dear...
Leona Lewis
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CRIPPLE FIGHT
KibblesBits
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Yeesh...
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By the way, has another episode showcased Tatiana's flawless chameleon abilities more than this episode?
So much range in 40 minutes, it's astounding. Four seasons in and I still forget that she's just one solitary actress during those Sarah vs. Rachel scenes.
So much range in 40 minutes, it's astounding. Four seasons in and I still forget that she's just one solitary actress during those Sarah vs. Rachel scenes.
KibblesBits
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Sarah is quite the actress too. She impersonated yet ANOTHER clone.
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"NOOOOOO!"
"No Rachel!"
"Rachel Stop!"
I just found that part humorous for some odd reason.
Jay Shadow
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I assumed it was him most of the year anyways since he's the one doing the dirty work. A lot of people thought she recognized the person that shot her, but I always thought that look was recognition of the situation rather than the person.
eyeball_kid
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God I love Krystal. Maybe because I've known many women like her where I live, but Tatiana just plays her to perfection. I get the feeling that Tatiana might have the most fun being her.
Sarah is just a continual disappointment and written so badly, frankly. She's supposed to be a rough and tumble girl who's been through endless scrapes, yet she gets beaten by limping, power suit Rachel? Every time she goes into a situation acting tough she gets her ass handed to her, but this is beyond ridiculous. It's cheesy, forced drama and making Rachel the archvillain was a terrible idea. Sarah should've just sent Helena in; she would've mopped up Rachel in five minutes.
I did love the Rachel-Krystal interchange though!
I thought Delphine's almost-death scene was handled well, and seeing Cosima and her reunited was really sweet. But the whole survivalist camp thing is perplexing to me.
Was this really the season finale? It's a terrible way to go out with so many loose narrative threads left hanging until next year. I'm kind of annoyed that we had to endure last season to get to good episodes again and now only have one season left. And it makes me sad to think that clone club will just be over after that.
Sarah is just a continual disappointment and written so badly, frankly. She's supposed to be a rough and tumble girl who's been through endless scrapes, yet she gets beaten by limping, power suit Rachel? Every time she goes into a situation acting tough she gets her ass handed to her, but this is beyond ridiculous. It's cheesy, forced drama and making Rachel the archvillain was a terrible idea. Sarah should've just sent Helena in; she would've mopped up Rachel in five minutes.
I did love the Rachel-Krystal interchange though!
I thought Delphine's almost-death scene was handled well, and seeing Cosima and her reunited was really sweet. But the whole survivalist camp thing is perplexing to me.
Was this really the season finale? It's a terrible way to go out with so many loose narrative threads left hanging until next year. I'm kind of annoyed that we had to endure last season to get to good episodes again and now only have one season left. And it makes me sad to think that clone club will just be over after that.
RatskyWatsky
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I thought that was a really good finale. That entire clone reveal sequence with Krystal was fucking hysterical. "She doesn't look anything like me. She's a 7 at best." lol
Is it? Wasn't she one of the primary villains in season 1? This way the story comes full circle and we avoid the ridiculousness of turning her into a member of Clone Club or killing her off, which would be a waste after she spent so much of the previous 2 seasons in recovery. This way all that buildup actually amounts to something. Rachel as the final (?) villain is a whole lot more interesting and compelling than New Person Behind the Curtain #6.
Is it? Wasn't she one of the primary villains in season 1? This way the story comes full circle and we avoid the ridiculousness of turning her into a member of Clone Club or killing her off, which would be a waste after she spent so much of the previous 2 seasons in recovery. This way all that buildup actually amounts to something. Rachel as the final (?) villain is a whole lot more interesting and compelling than New Person Behind the Curtain #6.
dead souls
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Yeah, this season was so good.
Krystal is life.
Krystal is life.
I think Rachel's arc makes a lot of sense. The events of the past couple seasons aren't enough to justify suddenly making her a sympathetic and empathetic character. She's just finally able to realize what she wanted all along, and now she believes in it more than ever.
But yes, Krystal was amazing!
But yes, Krystal was amazing!
PHOENIXZERO
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Krystal was the VIP of the season for sure. I can't believe the season is over already, I know there's advantages to these shorter seasons but it just makes the wait for new episodes much worse.
eyeball_kid
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"She has a point about your hair..."
I guess I just have a hard time taking Rachel seriously as a villain; I see her more pathetic than scary. Because the show tends to vacillate between comedy and drama post-season 1, it's rare to really ever feel much dramatic tension. (exceptions to this was the Neolution cop and the creepy paramedics, who were actually foreboding characters) But I think if they wanted to make Rachel scary again they shouldn't have shown all of her scheming. Keep her intentions and plans a mystery to the audience. Rachel being on the island should've been a complete surprise to us and to Sarah.
And Sarah cowering on the floor as Rachel beat her with a cane, it just came off as silly, contrived, and out-of-character for the Sarah I know.
On another note, it's kind of surprising that after all the build-up of M.K. as a new clone, they barely used her this season. I wonder if they decided to rewrite some episodes to give Krystal more screen time.
umop_3pisdn
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Why hire another actor to play a villain when Maslany can do it.
the_firewithin
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Haha the crystal scene in Felix's apartment
Decent season finale. Maybe a few too many loose ends for my taste, but I'm happy to hear the show ends with a final 5th season next year. Five seasons are almost always the sweet spot for a TV show IMO, and I think letting the show go on further than that would make it too convoluted and contrived. Plus, as others have mentioned, it's time for the many talented actors on the show to move on and hopefully have prosperous careers. I look forward to next season.
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