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[Macka]

Just posted this in the Pokemon Community thread, but I figured it would be good to discuss this here too. The way I see it, there are two ways this can be implemented.

Pokemon hold the 'Mega Stone' to access their more powerful formes for the duration of the battle. This is bad. Only certain Pokemon will have Megalutions, so this will more than likely cause balancing problems, as Pokemon with Megalutions will more than likely be much stronger than those without. Furthermore, if MegaBlaziken is more powerful than base Blaziken, suddenly Blaziken is obsolete. I really don't like the sound of that.

Now, option 2. Pokemon can access these formes if certain conditions are met in battle. This is a MUCH better option, especially if it can be somewhat skill based, because it avoids the base forms of Pokemon becoming obsolete - you start the battle with them and build towards activating 'Super Mode'. Unfortunately, there is no indicator that this is the way it's going to be handled.

 

[Village]

I have to agree ... Lucario's art looks like he rolled around in a bowl full of EDGY but the model looks far better in color and style.

That would make because he litterlly has edges. Also anything that looks cool = edgy, slang has determined.

 

[Alchemist]

Awesome.

 

[Qurupeke]

Probably around there from the box, then we'll be getting updates via DLC for eternity.

Yeah, free DLC/Spotpass is the future of pokemon.

 

[The Shadow Knight]

Just posted this in the Pokemon Community thread, but I figured it would be good to discuss this here too. The way I see it, there are two ways this can be implemented.

Pokemon hold the 'Mega Stone' to access their more powerful formes for the duration of the battle. This is bad. Only certain Pokemon will have Megalutions, so this will more than likely cause balancing problems, as Pokemon with Megalutions will more than likely be much stronger than those without. Furthermore, if MegaBlaziken is more powerful than base Blaziken, suddenly Blaziken is obsolete. I really don't like the sound of that.

Now, option 2. Pokemon can access these formes if certain conditions are met in battle. This is a MUCH better option, especially if it can be somewhat skill based, because it avoids the base forms of Pokemon becoming obsolete - you start the battle with them and build towards activating 'Super Mode'. Unfortunately, there is no indicator that this is the way it's going to be handled.

Option 2 is too gimmicky. Unless the Mega forms give an incredibly overpowering boost it will be hardly viable.

Option 1 is by far the best. Losing your choice of held item is a big deal. They will need a significant boost through stats or ability to make up for that lost held item. This is not true of course if the Mega items do something silly like provide a passive boost to stats on top of the other changes.
But we don't know that, so yeah...

 

[Wichu]

Just posted this in the Pokemon Community thread, but I figured it would be good to discuss this here too. The way I see it, there are two ways this can be implemented.

Pokemon hold the 'Mega Stone' to access their more powerful formes for the duration of the battle. This is bad. Only certain Pokemon will have Megalutions, so this will more than likely cause balancing problems, as Pokemon with Megalutions will more than likely be much stronger than those without. Furthermore, if MegaBlaziken is more powerful than base Blaziken, suddenly Blaziken is obsolete. I really don't like the sound of that.

Now, option 2. Pokemon can access these formes if certain conditions are met in battle. This is a MUCH better option, especially if it can be somewhat skill based, because it avoids the base forms of Pokemon becoming obsolete - you start the battle with them and build towards activating 'Super Mode'. Unfortunately, there is no indicator that this is the way it's going to be handled.

It really depends on what the 'Mega Stone' actually does. If it only causes it to change form, then the original forms will still be used due to their ability to use any other hold item; for example, a Lucario holding Choice Specs will have more powerful attacks than a Mega Lucario.
The 'Mega Stone' will just be another item choice, albeit one with a visual change.

 

[The Silver]

Each Eeveelution should get a megalution.

With all the stuff about DNA and genes and Eevee being an extremely unstable pokemon it's only right.

 

[SovanJedi]

Each Eeveelution should get a megalution.

With all the stuff about DNA and genes and Eevee being an extremely unstable pokemon it's only right.

Maybe... Sylpheon is Eevee's Mega Evolution! :O

(I am not serious, if that wasn't obvious)

 

[NeonZ]

The Mega Evolutions, aside from Mewtwo's, seem to mostly just add details and extra elements to the designs, without changing proportions or the basic body structure of the Pokemon, unlike most standard evolutions. That means they likely reuse the same animations in game. It makes me think that they might actually be rather high in number and that's why most of them seem to be built on top of the "base" Pokemon - so far, only Mega Mewtwo seems to have a new base design. That gives me hope for a high number of megas, and things like the other starters all getting their own Mega forms.

 

[Senator Soufflé]

Sleeping on it, I'm now ok with the Megas. There's no point complaining I guess, if that is where the series is going I'll accept it.

Still prefer a proper Sableye evolution but if he gets a Mega I'm sure it's better than nothing.

 

[The Silver]

Actually every pokemon should get a megalution except for Deoxys, purely for the lulz.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I actually like this more because it resembles raichu than pikachu!

Maybe, Pikachu is my favorite pokemon so my bias is strong here!

 

[L.O.R.D]

COOOOL

i want Blaziken version of it....NOW !

 

[Winterfang]

A lot of people are going to be disappointed with this Mega Evolutions. Starting getting prepared to either just Blaziken or a few select starters to get Mega, let alone every Eevee. Start wishing for more simple things like Mega Evolutions that will fix weak Third State pokes like Nidoking and Aggron.

 

[ffdgh]

I do hope floatzel atlease gets one to fix it's bad defenses and a strength boost.

 

[Kurita]

A lot of people are going to be disappointed with this Mega Evolutions. Starting getting prepared to either just Blaziken or a few select starters to get Mega, let alone every Eevee. Start wishing for more simple things like Mega Evolutions that will fix weak Third State pokes like Nidoking and Aggron.

Nidoking isn't that bad with Sheer Force + Life Orb.

 

[Diprosalic]

wow i'm super late to the party.


That's is some random ass selection to show of the mega evolutions. Starters, Legendaries, single evolution mons?


wtf.

 

[NeonZ]

wow i'm super late to the party.

That's is some random ass selection to show of the mega evolutions. Starters, Legendaries, single evolution mons?
wtf.

Maybe that's the point? It's showing that almost any type of Pokemon can potentially have a Mega Evolution. I think the only idea missing there is a Mega evolution of a Pokemon which isn't in its last evolution stage.

 

[Winterfang]

Just posted this in the Pokemon Community thread, but I figured it would be good to discuss this here too. The way I see it, there are two ways this can be implemented.

Pokemon hold the 'Mega Stone' to access their more powerful formes for the duration of the battle. This is bad. Only certain Pokemon will have Megalutions, so this will more than likely cause balancing problems, as Pokemon with Megalutions will more than likely be much stronger than those without. Furthermore, if MegaBlaziken is more powerful than base Blaziken, suddenly Blaziken is obsolete. I really don't like the sound of that.

Now, option 2. Pokemon can access these formes if certain conditions are met in battle. This is a MUCH better option, especially if it can be somewhat skill based, because it avoids the base forms of Pokemon becoming obsolete - you start the battle with them and build towards activating 'Super Mode'. Unfortunately, there is no indicator that this is the way it's going to be handled.

I'm going to have to disagree with this. First option seems optimal. Some pokemon are just better than the others.

If MegaBlaziken has 600 base stat like Garchomp but he is forced to have an item then that's alright. You won't have to predict if he is choices or if he has a Focus sash or anything. If you see MegaBlaziken you know it doesn't have an item.

Moves like Knock off and trick would help to debilitated those pokes adding new strategies. If they reverse back after losing their items.

So what if that makes the pre-evolution worthless? You don't see people using Shellgon, is completely normal and if anything it means you can add Eviolite to those pokes. Actually giving you more options.

Making requirements for the evolution is a terrible idea. It's not a good strategy. Regigigas is terrible because Gamefreak tried to get cute, Zen Mode is also barely used, ruined Archeops and heck even getting rid of stealth rock for using Volcarona is a hassle because your opponent will see through it right away, and make it a pain in the ass for
you to set up.

 

[Boss Doggie]

When do you think will we get an official English release of this? Roughly same time with Pokemon Smash?

 

[DigitalOp]

Yeah... this totally smells like a way for Game Freak to buff previous Pokemon without creating new evolutions and add to the Pokedex.

Get ready folks...

We may not get that many prevolution/evolutions from previous Pokemon since the majority of new pokemon seem to be original creations.

They're gonna give older Pokes that need a buff a Mega form and call it a day.

 

[Macka]

Yeah... this totally smells like a way for Game Freak to buff previous Pokemon without creating new evolutions and add to the Pokedex.

Get ready folks...

We may not get that many prevolution/evolutions from previous Pokemon since the majority of new pokemon seem to be original creations.

They're gonna give older Pokes that need a buff a Mega form and call it a day.

See, I wouldn't mind this if they were just buffing the Pokemon that needed it...but they aren't. Blaziken was already in Ubers, and Lucario is very powerful as well.

 

[sorakirosaki]

See, I wouldn't mind this if they were just buffing the Pokemon that needed it...but they aren't. Blaziken was already in Ubers, and Lucario is very powerful as well.

to be fair blaziken is only in ubers if it has speed boost and while lucario is powerful the other 3 pokemon absol,mawile and amphoros arent really that great so im hoping what they do is they make turn more of the weaker underused pokemon into megaforms while selecting a few stronger pokemon as fanservice of some sort that saying i would like to see actual evolutions of pokemon that needed it as well like sableye and pinsir

 

[backlot]

See, I wouldn't mind this if they were just buffing the Pokemon that needed it...but they aren't. Blaziken was already in Ubers, and Lucario is very powerful as well.

The meta game that bans Blaziken is not what Gamefreak balances for. Plus Blaziken might not even be uber in gen 6. It's too soon to say.

 

[ColtraineGF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHgE0vtOXU&feature=youtu.be

Dedenne = Dedenne
Horubii = Bunnelby 3)
Meekuru = Skiddo

Also, releasing info right after the leaks? Impressive, lol

 

[bigDdestruction]

Hmm, based off that trailer. It seems mega evolutions could possibly be temporary. Still cool though. And i truly hope that torchic is wifi mystery gift distribution and not a gamestop/Toysrus exclusive crap.

 

[IntelliHeath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHgE0vtOXU&feature=youtu.be

Dedenne = Dedenne
Horubii = Bunnelby 3)
Meekuru = Skiddo

Also, releasing info right after the leaks? Impressive, lol

OH wow. It loook awesome.

 

[Boss Doggie]

See, I wouldn't mind this if they were just buffing the Pokemon that needed it...but they aren't. Blaziken was already in Ubers, and Lucario is very powerful as well.

You actually overestimate Blaziken. First off, it's only SB Blaziken, and even then it's a really predictable mon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHg...ature=youtu.be

Dedenne = Dedenne
Horubii = Bunnelby 3)
Meekuru = Skiddo

Also, releasing info right after the leaks? Impressive, lol

ALL OVER MY FACE

 

[SuperSah]

Mega evolutions only available in battle?

hm

 

[ColtraineGF]

Unlike regular Evolution, Mega Evolution occurs only during battle. Once the battle ends, the Mega-Evolved Pokémon will return to its usual state.

Some Mega Pokémon may see more than just their stats increase, and may change their Ability or even their type!

And there ya go. But the activation condition is unknown...

 

[Village]

Ey yo peep this shit on the pokemon website

read blazikens thing.

Pokemans

 

[GAMERG0D]

Hi-res art.

 

[michaeltraps]

I've completely turned around on this idea from yesterday. I really like the fact that it offers the possibility of new Pokemon without adding to the already gigantic Pokedex, and provides an avenue for alternate strategies. I was never into the meta-game battle portion of Pokemon before, but I really think I'm going to try it out with X and Y.

Edit: Holy crap that new video. Why isn't it October yet?!

 

[DigitalOp]

Ey yo peep this shit on the pokemon website

read blazikens thing.

Pokemans

EXCLUSIVE BLAZIKEN DLC ONLY.

Cant get it in main game... Dont loaf PokeGAF

 

[ColtraineGF]

Super Training Base Stats

With Super Training, it’s not your Pokémon’s level that goes up but its base stats, the underlying values that define your Pokémon's skills in battle.

As these base stats increase, your Pokémon can increase its HP, Attack, or other stats beyond those of another Pokémon of the same species at the same level. These base stats could be increased using items and other methods in previous Pokémon titles, but in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, you'll be able to raise them far more easily than ever before, thanks to Super Training. This will lay the groundwork for more Pokémon Trainers to aim for the very top! "

The Effort-o-Meter

Understand your Pokémon’s stats at a glance with the Effort-o-Meter! Check a Pokémon’s Effort-o-Meter graph on the Super Training main screen to get a quick and easy look at how your Pokémon has grown.

Each Pokémon has some stats that will grow more easily than others and some stats that will take more work to raise. The inside (green) part of the Effort-o-Meter graph shows the stat levels relevant to each Pokémon species. The outside (yellow) part of the graph shows the base stat increases that your Pokémon has achieved through Super Training. There is a limit to how much any single Pokémon can increase its base stats through training. The meter on the right side of the screen illustrates that limit.

Each stat, such as HP and Attack, has its own effect on battle, as described below.

HP: This is your Pokémon’s health. If your Pokémon’s HP falls to 0, it will faint.

Attack: This stat affects how much damage a Pokémon can deal to opponents using physical moves.

Defense: This stat affects how much damage a Pokémon takes from an opponent’s physical moves.

Sp. Atk: This stat affects how much damage a Pokémon can deal to opponents using special moves.

Sp. Def: This stat affects how much damage a Pokémon takes from an opponent’s special moves.

Speed: This stat affects which Pokémon gets to act first in battle.

Base Stats = EVs? Made me flip my lid for a second, lol

 

[DigitalOp]

It seems Megas boost what was already the Pokemons dominant stat.

Blaziken gets even more attack. Mewtwo gets more Sp.Att, Lucario gets more Attack

Abilities just balance it out, maybe even make the pokemon a gamechanger...


Yeah, This really is just Pokemon going Super-saiyajin !!!

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

So its like a fusion cards from yu gi oh?

 

[Boss Doggie]

YOU CAN FUCKING LEAP OVER LEDGES WITH SKIDDO

 

[GAMERG0D]

 

[iFirez]

Love this piece of Mega Blaziken artwork:
{See above post}
Would love to see that in high-res.

Edit:Beaten by GAMERG0D ^^

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

YOU CAN FUCKING LEAP OVER LEDGES WITH SKIDDO

Megaton!

 

[Village]

YOU CAN FUCKING LEAP OVER LEDGES WITH SKIDDO

Oh SHIET.

 

[ColtraineGF]

Mega EvolutionIn the Pokémon series up until now, there has been a limit on how many times each Pokémon could evolve. However, Mega Evolution is a different kind of Evolution, one that surpasses that limit.

Mega Evolution is described as an Evolution beyond all Evolution, a transformation found only in the Kalos region. It has also been called the greatest mystery of Pokémon.

In addition to far greater strength, Mega Pokémon may also see their Ability change, or even their type!

Check out some of the Mega Pokémon that await you in your next adventure!

Mega Stones

Mega Evolution is not possible for all Pokémon. Only certain Pokémon, under certain conditions, can achieve Mega Evolution. One of those conditions is a special item called a Mega Stone. These special stones exist for every Pokémon that can Mega Evolve, and each is named for the Pokémon to which it grants power.

To use a Mega Stone, give it to your Pokémon to hold. Pokémon capable of Mega Evolution will gain access to their potential only if they first carry a Mega Stone into battle. Other things are needed for Mega Evolution to succeed, and those secrets will be explained later!

Some of the many Mega Stones seem to be hidden in secret places in the Kalos region. Finding every one of them will be one of the challenges awaiting you in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y!

 

[Charlie0108]

Changed my mind on this now and don't think it's awful. As someone who has always been more about the collection and story mode side of Pokemon I don't really think this will effect me at all.

The three new Pokemon revealed all look great, I'm guessing that Bunnelby is the regional two stage Normal type, whereas Dedenne is obviously the pika clone, not really sure what animal it is based upon though, seems to take inspiration from mice, hamsters and gerbils. Skiddo looks really cute too, and I'm interested to see how the riding elements work.

As for the new Gym Leader I'm 90% sure she's going to specialise in Fighting types. Her gym looks pretty interesting too.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Are there hi-res versions of those new art?

OH GOD WHY AM I SO HYPED UP RIGHT NOW

 

[DigitalOp]

.........
- New Fairy Type
- Horde Battles
- Extended Training Regiments
- Awesome New PokeDesigns
- Mega SuperSaiyajin Pokemon
- It comes out on my birthday

Why have the gaming god been so merciful lately T___T

 

[Avixph]

I'm still angry WereGarurumon turned into shit called MetalGarurumon

Have you seen MetalGarurumon-X?

 

[Tiamant]

Still not feeling it, why is it an issue the pokedex lenght all of a sudden? Perhaps they should've thought of this when making Spinda and other joke pokes, I want my legit evos dammit!

 

[TrueBlue]

Smash 4 tease?

 

[GAMERG0D]

Rideable Pokemon better be like Chocobos.