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darkinstinct

...lacks reading comprehension.
In line with the recent threads at Era I ask for a small thought experiment: What if Era members were not humorless self-righteous millenial bitches? Would it change how you feel about the place? Why are they?
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
In line with the recent threads at Era I ask for a small thought experiment: What if Era members were not humorless self-righteous millenial bitches? Would it change how you feel about the place? Why are they?

They would have never left while attempting to sabotage the community here on their way out if that were the case. :messenger_winking:
 
They would have never left while attempting to sabotage the community here on their way out if that were the case. :messenger_winking:
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Acerac

Banned
In all fairness it's kind of misogynistic to think that... uhh... losing a loved one would cause somebody enough hurt that they'd wanna take significant amounts of drugs? It sounds like a conspiracy to.... what the fuck I feel terrible even trying my hardest to justify it. Is there something I'm missing here that I should know? Legitimately it can't just be that you were arguing with Mammoth Jones, right? I started looking stuff up online to try and figure out what conspiracy is being pushed here and 2 minutes of googling gave me no answers.

There has to be something that I'm missing. It can't just be who you were arguing with... right?

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Lots of people who seem to be mad over similar things mention Ariana Grande by name. I'm not sure if I'd be happier or more annoyed if the ban was solely due to her involvement.

...

I know I shouldn't be reading those forums. Why would I try to logic through moderation decisions?
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
For saying the truth no less, anyone who doesn't even entertain that possibility you brought up does so out of dishonesty or sheer idiocy.

I am still scratching my head how it is misogyny for someone who is heartbroken to succumb to even deeper substance abuses to "numb the pain" which is very, very common.

You can't win with these social rejects over at their asylum.
 
I am still scratching my head how it is misogyny for someone who is heartbroken to succumb to even deeper substance abuses to "numb the pain" which is very, very common.

You can't win with these social rejects over at their asylum.

It's because of a stupid worldview that you can't participate in something without actually being culpable of whatever happens in the natural course of that context. Dude didn't kill himself because his woman left him, but that probably aggravated his situation. It's not her fault. It's not anyone's fault. But apparently stating the obvious, that nothing happens in a vacuum and our actions are not defined by one single motivation, is blaming someone since any thought that is above the complexity of "hurr durr Trump gamergators" is out of bounds.

This is what happens when you micromanage every sentence in search of any hint of wrongthink. You level the discussion on basic shit, it's like a kid that gets one of those goofy rounded scissors but the kid is a 30 something inept fuck.
 
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DeepEnigma

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It's because of a stupid worldview that you can't participate in something without actually being culpable of whatever happens in the natural course of that context. Dude didn't kill himself because his woman left him, but that probably aggravated his situation. It's not her fault. It's not anyone's fault. But apparently stating the obvious, that nothing happens in a vacuum and our actions are not defined by one single motivation, is blaming someone since any thought that is above the complexity of "hurr durr Trump gamergators" is out of bounds.

This is what happens when you micromanage every sentence in search of any hint of wrongthink. You level the discussion on basic shit, it's like a kid that gets one of those goofy rounded scissors but the kid is a 30 something inept fuck.

Truth right here!
 

JimmyJones

Banned
You got banned for that post, seriously the other place really are a joke.

Haha it ain't her fault he killed himself but getting engaged to another dude like a week after she broke up with him definitely didn't help! :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Women move on so quickly it's crazy. Guys take months if not years to recover from that shit.
 

Jaxx_377

Neo Member
Your Princess is in this particular castle. So much gold in here.

https://resetera.kiwifarms.net

After going through some of this and laughing at the absurdity of some of these bans I just can't for the life of me understand how people could engage in a discussion forum that actively bans any opposition from the group and seems to revel in the power they get from banning people for literally nothing. It's like a cult being lead by the queen of hearts. Doesn't really matter what you say if it opposes the group opinion whatsoever then "Off with your Head".
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
After going through some of this and laughing at the absurdity of some of these bans I just can't for the life of me understand how people could engage in a discussion forum that actively bans any opposition from the group and seems to revel in the power they get from banning people for literally nothing. It's like a cult being lead by the queen of hearts. Doesn't really matter what you say if it opposes the group opinion whatsoever then "Off with your Head".

Some people have Stockholm Syndrome and/or are self masochists over there I guess.

It is amazing to me how many people in reality love to be controlled.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
I mean if there's anything SJWs should be all over it's rappers, as they're pretty much the biggest bunch of misoginystic bastards out there. Not an easy target though. Easier to target the guys who's hearts are mostly in the right place and make a tiny fuckup instead.
 

Humdinger

Gold Member
It's not even a "tiny fuckup," most of the time (as in, a genuine woman-hater expressing his disgust with women). It's just people saying something that could potentially be construed as critical of women or the (third wave) feminist agenda. They read misogyny into everything, whether it's there or not. They seem completely incapable of seeing events through any other lenses than the SJW/PC/feminist one. It's really crazy.

I don't think this sort of stuff is going away any time soon. It's good to see the backlash building, though.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
You catch my drift - the point is that a person's good intent is not considered. As you say, third wave feminism is the problem here. Re the backlash, I hope so, though I worry the mess that is the alt right might bugger it up for all of us.
 

bigedole

Member
At some point, people are gonna realise it was feminism all along, not just the third wave.

It's silly to imply that at its origin there was no justification for what those activists were pursuing. A societal/cultural shift in how women were viewed/treated was truly needed, and I think the original goals have largely been reached. There will of course always be room for improvement, but the current incarnation clearly takes it too far and largely ignores the collateral damage they do. The falling behind of boys/men in our education system will likely become one of the biggest failures of 21st century society.
 

Papa

Banned
It's silly to imply that at its origin there was no justification for what those activists were pursuing. A societal/cultural shift in how women were viewed/treated was truly needed, and I think the original goals have largely been reached. There will of course always be room for improvement, but the current incarnation clearly takes it too far and largely ignores the collateral damage they do. The falling behind of boys/men in our education system will likely become one of the biggest failures of 21st century society.

It has always been based on patriarchy theory, which is an incorrect interpretation of Western society.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
It has always been based on patriarchy theory, which is an incorrect interpretation of Western society.

Especially when a good part of it's roots were found in upper class rich women shaming lower class poor young men to go fight in a war.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
It's silly to imply that at its origin there was no justification for what those activists were pursuing. A societal/cultural shift in how women were viewed/treated was truly needed, and I think the original goals have largely been reached. There will of course always be room for improvement, but the current incarnation clearly takes it too far and largely ignores the collateral damage they do. The falling behind of boys/men in our education system will likely become one of the biggest failures of 21st century society.

Spot on. Feminism in its original form was definitely needed, much like the black rights movements were needed, and the goals were noble. The difficulty is that once a movement achieves its objectives it no longer has reason to exist. What tends to happen then is that the moderate voices wander off, it's done, so all that's left is the hard core, and they'll push harder and harder for more and more. Any activist group will succumb to this fate, usually they shrink to a size that this ceases to be a problem, but in the internet age they've done a worryingly good job of spreading their particular brand of hate.
 
It has always been based on patriarchy theory, which is an incorrect interpretation of Western society.

And patriarchy has never really been real the way feminists frame patriarchy.

What did exist in the old days and still exists in some parts of the world is expecting both men and women to fulfill certain roles in society, this can absolutely be an oppressive system but it's oppressive for both women and men, that's a key difference from feminist rhetoric.

Try being a man 100 years who didn't fit traditional social norms and you'd probably get just as much flak if not more than if you were a woman.

Feminists seem to believe old society hated women, that's just not the case.

To be fair I think there are some more old school feminists that realize this, but they've been drowned out by the crazies.

Spot on. Feminism in its original form was definitely needed, much like the black rights movements were needed, and the goals were noble. The difficulty is that once a movement achieves its objectives it no longer has reason to exist. What tends to happen then is that the moderate voices wander off, it's done, so all that's left is the hard core, and they'll push harder and harder for more and more. Any activist group will succumb to this fate, usually they shrink to a size that this ceases to be a problem, but in the internet age they've done a worryingly good job of spreading their particular brand of hate.

That's a very good point.

People wanted equality, hey, that's great! Just fine and dandy, but we got it basically and now those movements have become self perpetuating things that are now doing more harm than good.

I think with a lot of these people political shit is just their hobby, just something to do, but they don't realize the damage they've done and are doing, they need a better hobby like say... video games.
 
It's silly to imply that at its origin there was no justification for what those activists were pursuing. A societal/cultural shift in how women were viewed/treated was truly needed, and I think the original goals have largely been reached. There will of course always be room for improvement, but the current incarnation clearly takes it too far and largely ignores the collateral damage they do. The falling behind of boys/men in our education system will likely become one of the biggest failures of 21st century society.
If you're talking about the "original goals" laid out my Marx and Engels (Engels mostly; see his book 'The Origin of Family, Private Property, and the State') then no those goals have not been met. Engels considered the traditional family unit to be an obstacle standing in the way of true human progress. He proposed that since child-bearing was the first "division of labor", women would benefit from having their own separate "breeding" units with their own social structure, and males wouldn't be able to "use marriage to enslave women".
 

Papa

Banned
And patriarchy has never really been real the way feminists frame patriarchy.

What did exist in the old days and still exists in some parts of the world is expecting both men and women to fulfill certain roles in society, this can absolutely be an oppressive system but it's oppressive for both women and men, that's a key difference from feminist rhetoric.

Try being a man 100 years who didn't fit traditional social norms and you'd probably get just as much flak if not more than if you were a woman.

Feminists seem to believe old society hated women, that's just not the case.

To be fair I think there are some more old school feminists that realize this, but they've been drowned out by the crazies.



That's a very good point.

People wanted equality, hey, that's great! Just fine and dandy, but we got it basically and now those movements have become self perpetuating things that are now doing more harm than good.

I think with a lot of these people political shit is just their hobby, just something to do, but they don't realize the damage they've done and are doing, they need a better hobby like say... video games.

Equality of what though? When discussing the first wave of feminism, what people will invariably point to is women gaining the right to vote. However, they will also invariably neglect to mention that it came without the responsibility of having to defend the country.

Of course I think women having the vote is a good thing, but I wish the suffragette movement was discussed in the appropriate historical context. Moreover, I’m fine with there being unequal rights and responsibilities for men and women in this case so long as due respect is given to the men who have died in defense of our great nations. I have never seen a feminist do so.
 
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Cybrwzrd

Banned
People wanted equality, hey, that's great! Just fine and dandy, but we got it basically and now those movements have become self perpetuating things that are now doing more harm than good.

That is kind of the case with all movements. Money gets involved and then they have to justify their existence so they can keep on getting money. All large social movements eventually become cancer. Look at MADD for example.
 

pushBAK

Member
That is kind of the case with all movements. Money gets involved and then they have to justify their existence so they can keep on getting money. All large social movements eventually become cancer. Look at MADD for example.
I'll bite: what's the deal with MADD?
 
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royox

Member
I've been reading some old era threads about "I'm transphobic if I don't date trans people" and MY GOSH THE ANSWERS MAN.

People saying you indeed ARE transphobic if trans people don't turn you on. People saying "we should reeducate cis people so they are turned on at trans people". My gosh...am I a manphobic if I don't like men? I also don't like skinny girls...am I a skinnyphobic?
 
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Whitecrow

Banned
I've been reading some old era threads about "I'm transphobic if I don't date trans people" and MY GOSH THE ANSWERS MAN.

People saying you indeed ARE transphobic if trans people don't turn you on. People saying "we should reeducate cis people so they are turned on at trans people". My gosh...am I a manphobic if I don't like men? I also don't like skinny girls...am I a skinnyphobic?
Im gonna necromance Darwin and ask him to please do something...

Ffs, knowing that this people exists does no good to my health.
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I've been reading some old era threads about "I'm transphobic if I don't date trans people" and MY GOSH THE ANSWERS MAN.

People saying you indeed ARE transphobic if trans people don't turn you on. People saying "we should reeducate cis people so they are turned on at trans people". My gosh...am I a manphobic if I don't like men? I also don't like skinny girls...am I a skinnyphobic?
It is considered a problem that you say no to trans people based on a sexual level.

Also, instead that people are proud that the topic gets discussed at all by cis people (Even when its negative), you have someone who gets upset when they leave the ERA safe space/wasteland for once and witness this thing IRL.

Even more ironic: User went on to contacting the manager instead of confronting the person that bothered him so much because ''I didn't want to pick a fight with a guy twice my size.''

The fact that you presume you are going to be into a fight says a lot about your conversational skills, and you also assume a lot about the person you avoid confrontation with.

It also does the thread no good that:
  • It does not even hit 50 replies. Kinda telling how important the ''issue'' really is, no?
  • There is a thread derail about Bowserette/Peachette. Again, really helps highlighting the importance of the problem.
  • User actually got a reply back from the manager, who said they will forward it to the regional management team in his area. User's reply? ''I hope they give him a big talkin to.''
In everything i feel the user is a big wuss. As if the regional management team is going to give a crap about someone experiencing the real world. You want to make a difference? Perhaps engage in conversation instead of cowardly file a complaint and somehow expect that justice will be served.

Its like you care about the topic enough to file a complaint but not enough to make an actual point because god forbid that you can't post about it on the Internet.
 
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