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Pinball Hall Of Fame: The Williams Collection (PS2/PSP/Wii)
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Agent X
Member
This is awesome news! I greatly enjoy Pinball Hall of Fame: The Gottlieb Collection on PSP--they did a nice job with that one. I'm glad to see that they're tackling Williams machines now. Williams had some terrific pinball designs; the ones they've announced so far are a good start. I'll definitely keep an eye out for this one.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Cool.
I wonder if they'll have any of the licensed properties.
I wonder if they'll have any of the licensed properties.
ThirstyFly
Member
Pinbot + The Machine: Bride of Pinbot + some kind of original (and working) Wii controls = sold.
Infernal Monkey
Member
Kotaku has more screenshots, include YES OH MY GOD PINBOT.
List of tables seems to now be:
Pin*bot
Funhouse
Gorgar
Firepower
Black Knight
Space Shuttle
Taxi
Jive Time
Whirlwind
Sorcerer
That's two more than 8 games - and this will be a day 1 for me if that list holds out.
List of tables seems to now be:
Pin*bot
Funhouse
Gorgar
Firepower
Black Knight
Space Shuttle
Taxi
Jive Time
Whirlwind
Sorcerer
That's two more than 8 games - and this will be a day 1 for me if that list holds out.
PorscheThunder
Banned
Attack from Mars? That's the one with the 3D graphics on the playfield, right?no_to_co said:
I wish that the Defender pinball table was included, though. :-(
anotherworld
Banned
are these pinball games running in 3D? or 2D?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
anotherworld said:
Fairly high-quality 3D with good modeling.
What's up with the creative license they're taking, most obviously on TAXI? The drop targets are supposed to have suitcases on them because Marilyn/Lola is all packed up and ready to go. But on the pics of the collection, they put lame flagish stickers. If they're going to do an "authentic" pinball collection, keep them authentic.
GitarooMan
Member
I wish White Water was included.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
GitarooMan said:
Me too. That wasn't a very popular game, but I loved it.
I'm excited for Taxi, even over Pinbot. Taxi was effing awesome.
Infernal Monkey
Member
DavidDayton said:
Yep. =o
It was a launch title in PAL regions. Same game as Pinball Hall of Fame on PS2, just a different name. But with some improved textures, better ball physics and controls that worked really well.
I loved the Gottlieb collection and will pick up the Williams collection as soon as it's out. My only complaint was that I felt they could have improved the texture resolution on the PSP version.
I remember a time when it seemed that there would never be a licensed port of Star Wars: The Arcade Game (the vector game from Atari), but after years of successful emulation collections we finally saw it show up in Rogue Squadron 3 on the GameCube. I hope that something similar will eventually happen with the pinball collections -- that licensed games like Addams Family and The Simpsons can be brought home in emulated form.
Certainly, the fact that a second collection is being made is a good sign. Let's hope that demand continues to build to the point that it makes sense for someone to buy the rights to do those licensed tables.
I remember a time when it seemed that there would never be a licensed port of Star Wars: The Arcade Game (the vector game from Atari), but after years of successful emulation collections we finally saw it show up in Rogue Squadron 3 on the GameCube. I hope that something similar will eventually happen with the pinball collections -- that licensed games like Addams Family and The Simpsons can be brought home in emulated form.
Certainly, the fact that a second collection is being made is a good sign. Let's hope that demand continues to build to the point that it makes sense for someone to buy the rights to do those licensed tables.
Got it in 3 days even with Amazon Free shipping!
It's a miracle they made this, but the fact that it's only sold @ Amazon and Walmart.com is kind of a bad sign.
I really like the tables they have on this. It's not like Gotlieb where most of the table were too antiquated to enjoy.
I love the bleep bloop 8bit sound effects, and the control scheme on the wii. It feels like you're playing real pinball.
It's a miracle they made this, but the fact that it's only sold @ Amazon and Walmart.com is kind of a bad sign.
I really like the tables they have on this. It's not like Gotlieb where most of the table were too antiquated to enjoy.
I love the bleep bloop 8bit sound effects, and the control scheme on the wii. It feels like you're playing real pinball.
Minsc
Gold Member
Link said:
They've previously announced this, you'll be able to pull the plunger thingy back by doing the same back motion with the remote, tilting/shaking the table will be done by shaking the remote (I believe you can shake in a certain direction by using either the remote or the nunchuck), and one of the two flipper buttons are controlled each by a separate button on the nunchuck and remote. One hand for the left flipper, the other hand for the right flipper, just like a pinball machine.
It actually sounds like it will sort of emulate being at a pinball machine a bit more realistically, hopefully it all works out.
Last I saw, it was going to be released on 3/28/08. Wouldn't be surprised if it got pushed back again, as previously it was due out earlier than that.
Agent X
Member
Minsc said:
It's already been released. As I mentiond in this thread, my friend has both the Wii and PSP versions. I was at the store with him when he got the Wii version.
bjork said:
Yes.
PHoF: The Gottlieb Collection also had that feature. It looked good, but (unlike some other classic game compilations) I didn't really like the controls in this mode, so I always played it horizontally oriented. I don't know if that's been improved in PHoF: The Williams Collection, as I haven't played it myself.
Beer Monkey
Member
They need to bring this to 360/PS3 somehow. I'd pay $10 just for Funhouse on XBLA/PSN.
The PS2 version plays quite well on the PS3. I have that and the PSP version, and both are much better than the Gottleib Collection. The weird part is that the PSP version has 2 more tables, Jive Time and Sorcerer, than the Wii and PS2 versions. I definitely play th PSP version the most though.
The Wii version is $10 more, and the only "extra" that you seem to get is motion "tilting."
I did a review of this on our last show
PSNation Ep51
The Wii version is $10 more, and the only "extra" that you seem to get is motion "tilting."
I did a review of this on our last show
PSNation Ep51
ThirstyFly
Member
I forgot all about this. Doesn't look like you can get it off Amazon.ca though. Am I screwed? I'd rather not have to order it from the US.
brain_stew
Member
Torgo said:
That's because of a mandate from Sony on PS2 ports on PSP needing new content. Still, no reason the tables shouldn't be in the Wii version though.
BobTheFork
Member
Oh shit, I have to get this nowRemy said:
"GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!!!!!!"
Remy said:
I came in here to post this very line and was beaten by the topic starter. :lol
For years I've been saying that up till this very day my favourite pinball game ever is still Pin.Bot for the NES.
Words cannot describe what I felt when I read the post about this table being on the official list and shortly thereafter seeing the first screenshot of it.
I would easily pay 100 for a perfect videogame rendition of the Pin.Bot table by itself, so I don't need to explain how hyped I am for this.
OMG, OMG, OMG.
bobbyconover
Member
BobTheFork said:
Just to warn you, you're thinking of Black Knight 2000, the 1989 sequel/re-imagining of Black Knight. The original Black Knight, the one on this compilation, came out in 1980 and is much more crude -- no music with lyrics! Though the Black Knight does still taunt you, however early-80s robotically.
Torgo said:
Jive Time and Sorcerer are both on the Wii version, and I'm pretty sure the bit about the Wii version being $10 more is untrue, despite being reported everywhere. I got mine for $20 in the budget games section, right alongside Ninjabread Man and Super Fruit Fall. It didn't appear to be "on sale," and everyone else I know who has actually managed to track down a copy (from various different stores) has also paid $20. It was a bitch to find, though. I went to 6 local stores before finally finding it at Fred Meyer (a west coast chain) though I've heard they also have it at FYE and Walmart.
For what it's worth, the compilation is probably the best example of video pinball I've ever played on a console. It absolutely destroys the ping-pong-y feeling Pinball FX, and completely one-ups the Gottlieb collection due to actually having fun/classic tables to play. I consider myself intimately familiar with a few of the games here (Funhouse, Whirlwind, Firepower, Pinbot) and all are very nicely represented with nearly perfect ball-weight feel and physics. There are a few little nitpicks that aficionados will pick up on (Taxi's drop targets are inexplicably changed from the original, I've heard Funhouse has some ramp lights that don't work like they should, some sounds are a little off), but for the most part the games play exactly as you remember them.
It's almost weird to me that this is getting the budget treatment, though I guess that's pretty much standard fare for classic compilations these days. The presentation is pretty slick, as anyone who played the Gottlieb collection knows. For those who have trouble picking up on what they should be doing in a pinball machine, there are extremely detailed and fully voiced walk-throughs of the scoring and shots for every table, complete with helpful camera angles that point you to the exact spots you need to know about. I've been playing some of these games for years and even I learned a few things about the scoring that I'd never quite fully understood. The ambiance in the arcade/hub/menu is nicely executed -- when you're playing one game, you can hear distant sounds of others being played in the background. Of course if this annoys you you can turn it off. Even the somewhat inappropriate heavy metal music playing in the arcade is all original and pretty rocking, for a budget game.
Since these guys seem to have the pinball thing down tight, here's hoping for a third compilation. Williams again would be great, or possibly Bally. There are still a ton of great untapped non-license (sorry Twilight Zone fans, it's probably not gonna happen) games that they could draw from: Medieval Madness, Cactus Canyon, Road Show, Whitewater, Black Rose, High Speed 1 & 2, Black Knight 2000, Diner, Earthshaker, Banzai Run, etc.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Thanks for the update. I've been thinking about getting this, if only to encourage more virtual pinball compilations.
Giggle: yes, see the review in the next paragraph.
You guys should see this review on Quarter to Three. Pretty thorough. Talks about 2 more tables on Wii, but I'm guessing they're in all versions. I'd like a definitive statement on which versions have which tables.
Anyway, as an update, my Amazon order just shipped a couple of hours ago. Arrives on 22 March, or earlier. Pretty stoked.
All signs point to BUY. If you support real pinball sim/emulations, get it or better yet buy Gottlieb and this one.
You guys should see this review on Quarter to Three. Pretty thorough. Talks about 2 more tables on Wii, but I'm guessing they're in all versions. I'd like a definitive statement on which versions have which tables.
Anyway, as an update, my Amazon order just shipped a couple of hours ago. Arrives on 22 March, or earlier. Pretty stoked.
All signs point to BUY. If you support real pinball sim/emulations, get it or better yet buy Gottlieb and this one.
Agent X
Member
Torgo said:
Yes, I noticed that! I appreciated it, since most of the "big" sites have completely ignored this package. (Unfortunately, it looks like most of the "big" retailers are also ignoring it.)
jvm said:
All three versions (PS2, PSP, and Wii) have the following eight tables:
Black Knight
Firepower
Fun House
Gorgar
Pin*Bot
Space Shuttle
Taxi
Whirlwind
The PSP and Wii also have two additional tables:
Jive Time
Sorceror
BTW, I've seen the Wii version for $19.99 at FYE today. I also spotted the Wii version of Impossible Mission (yes, based on the old Epyx game) at the same store, but that's another story.
I got the PS2 version from Amazon for $14.99.
Holy crap, this game is really, really good. One of the best pinball games I've ever played, and I've played almost all of them.
Great physics, incredibly detailed table/sound reconstruction, fun modes to play (tournaments, multi-table unlock runs).
I can't believe this was only $15.
If you like pinball, you need to get this game. Definitely picking up the Gottleib one as well after seeing the quality in this.
My only qualm is that it's 480p. This would be incredible as a 360/PS3 release. It doesn't look bad on my PS3 upressed to 720p with smoothing, but still... at true 720p this would be even better.
Holy crap, this game is really, really good. One of the best pinball games I've ever played, and I've played almost all of them.
Great physics, incredibly detailed table/sound reconstruction, fun modes to play (tournaments, multi-table unlock runs).
I can't believe this was only $15.
If you like pinball, you need to get this game. Definitely picking up the Gottleib one as well after seeing the quality in this.
My only qualm is that it's 480p. This would be incredible as a 360/PS3 release. It doesn't look bad on my PS3 upressed to 720p with smoothing, but still... at true 720p this would be even better.