You can't just bring them back. Ever. For all we know they return to the UK and promptly blow up a pub for jihad as part of the plan.
Teenagers are still quite rash. You haven't accepted that we need to be in our 20's to be fully mentally developed.
You can't just bring them back. Ever. For all we know they return to the UK and promptly blow up a pub for jihad as part of the plan.
Islamic State... Or Conservative majority
Islamic State... Or Conservative majority
Islamic State... Or Conservative majority
Feel bad for the parents, although I wouldn't be surprised if some parents instigate this shit, or am I crazy for thinking so?
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Again, is that really the standard we want to be holding ourselves up to?
lets be honest
they sort of deserve what they get if they saw all the shit ISIL does and decided that was the sort of life they wanted.
They're 16 years old.
I remember thinking some super dumb stuff at 16 that I grew out of when I became an adult. Nothing on that level, but 16 year olds tend to be idealistic, naive to the reality of the world, and going through a philosophical exploratory/rebellion phase. It's a mixture that can lead some of them to make incredibly poor choices.
When I was 16 I took the exhaust off dad's V8 and took it for a spin around the block. Christ it made a hell of noise. Surprised no one called the cops.
There's shit you do when you're a kid, then there's shit you do cos you're a selfish, stupid, inconsiderate, ignorant, arrogant, borderline simple fucking idiot. I wish them no harm, but let's not gloss over all this by using the kid excuse.They knew exactly what they were doing.
Surprised at all the "fuck 'em" attitude floating around this thread. Brutal and somewhat depressing to read.
People are remarkably tolerant of Isis atrocities when they don't like the victims.
I am not going to try and sympathize with ISIS or try to see their point of view. Their point of view is wrong, plain and simple. These are people that behead innocents just because they believe in a different God and people that set their enemies on fire. They are not fighting against a foreign threat, they are actively terrorizing the people living there and plunging the region in even more chaos then it was.Again, from their point of view they aren't terrorists but freedom fighters. And it's not as if the civilised world hasn't done some horrifying, barbaric things in the name of the greater good during times of war.
How you justify those depends on the side you're on.
Doing dumb shit is crashing a car or getting in a fist fight. Not traveling thousands of miles and life with a bunch of terrorists. This goes way beyond "dumb shit".I feel bad for them.. people do dumb shit at 16. I doubt they make it out of this alive though. :/
Doing dumb shit is crashing a car or getting in a fist fight. Not traveling thousands of miles and life with a bunch of terrorists. This goes way beyond "dumb shit".
I don't think we - i.e. "western civilisation" - are as sophisticated, compassionate, liberal, progressive or intelligent as we like to think if our reaction to this is, "Fuck 'em. They made their choice. I hope they get caught, raped and killed."
That means the fantasy Caliphate of yore where Muslims were the biggest superpower in the world. The ISIS recruiters tell them that it is the golden age of Islam inside Mosul and Raqqa, and the enemies fear them. They also tap into the abolished concept of Hijra (migration), which is when Prophet Muhammad migrated to Medinah and asked the persecuted Muslims from Mecca to join him in the new state. Every scholar has said that Hijra was only incumbent on the people living in Mecca at the time. Read www.lettertobaghdadi.com for further information.It made you wonder what they thought was greener on the other side?
The fact that there are less discrimination against Muslim? Or the fact you can kill non Muslim.
It made you wonder what they thought was greener on the other side?
The fact that there are less discrimination against Muslim? Or the fact you can kill non Muslim.
ISIS is the new scared straight?when I was a teen I got really mad at my mom one weekend because she WOULDN'T STOP GOING THROUGH MY THINGS and to punish her I joined a gang that didn't offer me drugs or women or money or a comfortable lifestyle or respect or freedom or safety or fun or friendship or a nice place to stay but instead the opportunity to behead random strangers
man you should have seen that episode of maury
Three London schoolgirls who ran away to the Middle East to become "Jihadi brides" are on the run from their husbands in the Iraqi city of Mosul, it is being reported.
Shamima Begum, Amira Abase and Kadiza Sultana ran away from home in February and were seen on CCTV at a UK airport and in Turkey before slipping over the border into Syria.
Since arriving in Isis-controlled territory, Amira posted a Tweet including a photograph of takeaway food and the caption 'dawla takeaway w/ @um_ayoub12'. The message seemed to imply the girls were enjoying life in the Middle East.
However, it has now been claimed by an anonymous blogger called "Mosul Eye" that three British girls, possibly the three London girls, are trying to escape their husbands - and possibly Isis (also known as Isil or Islamic State).
In a Facebook posting on 2 May, the blogger wrote: "Three girls, [foreigners, British] married to ISIL militants, reported missing, and ISIL announced to all its check points to search for them. It is believed that those girls have escaped."
He later added: "The latest info I got on them is they are still on the run, but still in Mosul, and ISIL is thoroughly searching for them and hasn't captured them yet. They are Brits, not immigrants, and they are very young teens (around 16 years old). That's all I have about them for now."
The news will add to the torment of the families of the three girls back in London, who claim they had no idea their children were planning to fly to the Middle East. It later emerged that the father of Amira Abase had attended Islamist rallies in London.
Today's news comes as Isis sympathisers have made a number of threats on social media warning that London is to come under attack. Using the hashtag #LondonAttack posters have uploaded photographs of machine guns and what appears to be a suicide belt along with cryptic warnings. However, the police say they do not currently believe the threats are credible.
I know it's an odd bump, but Vice has a video up and it gives a glimpse into the propaganda videos that IS uses to try and recruit people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsECHXGgvpA
It's about the three girls who fled, pretty interesting watch.
By joining ISIS knowing exactly what they're doing they're enablers or supporters of war crimes. They're reaping what they sow.
They're fucking kids.
NYT said:Indeed, in dozens of conversations with young Tunisians, almost no one, whether sympathizers or critics, believed the news reports of the Islamic State’s mass killings or beheadings. “It is made up,” echoed Amar Msalmi, 28, a taxi driver. “All of this is manufactured in the West.”
NYT said:“There are lots of signs that the end will be soon, according to the Quran,” said Aymen, 24, who was relaxing with friends at another cafe.
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Many insisted that friends who had joined the Islamic State had sent back reports over the Internet of their homes, salaries and even wives. “They live better than us!” said Walid, 24.
Wissam, 22, said a friend who left four months ago had told him that he was “leading a truly nice, comfortable life” under the Islamic State.
“I said: ‘Are there some pretty girls? Maybe I will go there and settle down,’ ” he recalled.
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“Sometimes I pray, and sometimes I don’t,” Chiheb Eddine said. “I am very social.” But, like many Tunisians whose practices sometimes seem to contradict their piety, he nonetheless said he hoped that the Islamic State would “win.”
“Maybe when the war is over, we will all be in an Islamic state, for all practicing Muslims, under Shariah,” he said with a shrug, adding that he had asked his brother directly about the Islamic State’s beheadings and other atrocities. “He said, ‘Don’t believe it,’ and I trust my brother.”
This. Seriously.When I was 16 I took the exhaust off dad's V8 and took it for a spin around the block. Christ it made a hell of noise. Surprised no one called the cops.
There's shit you do when you're a kid, then there's shit you do cos you're a selfish, stupid, inconsiderate, ignorant, arrogant, borderline simple fucking idiot. I wish them no harm, but let's not gloss over all this by using the kid excuse.They knew exactly what they were doing.
There is a point to where "There just kids" can be applied. Leaving their homes to become brides for a known terrorist group who laugh at the notion of woman's rights or freedom and then wanting to back off after they see what reality is does not make me that sympathetic.
You guys are all fucking idiots if you think they are evil and wanted to join evil. This is war. There is propaganda on both sides, and I'm sure we're getting the more accurate version of the truth but I guarantee you those terrorists are not sitting underground thinking "man i love being evil". They are all brainwashed. Just like gangs, just like a tyrannical government, its a pyramid scheme of people with a lot to gain at the top using the peoples desires, addictions, and fears against them to push their own agenda.
But either way grow the fuck up assholes. If you think that because you read some articles and saw some news segments on ISIS that you're an expert, and further, that everyone should be an expert, you're an elitist turd.
People like these girls need to be rescued and their true story should be used to teach people about what really goes on. And they were fucking 16. That's the age where shit like Zeitgeist and the illuminati seems true.