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RWBY |OT| Volume 5 starts October 14, 2017

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Plus, there was that rather telling shot in the Volume 3 finale of Sun seeing Blake cling to Yang's hand.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if Sun ends up putting it together that Blake has feelings for Yang before Blake really understands it herself.

I've rewatched that bit from Vol 3 and I still think that's a reach especially how quick a shot that was when they all turned to Ren after he stated they weren't leaving while everyone else was evacuating. Yang had just lost her arm and Blake was blaming herself over it.

I wouldn't say Blake is completely disinterested. They went to the dance together and she has been seen blushing at him in Volume 3. I think it's more a case of priorities, at least for now.

Pretty much this. Also keep in mind that Blake's entire purpose for running is to keep those she cares about out of harms way and here comes Sun completely undermining her. Can't blame her at all for being irritated.

Whether or not Sun actually makes any inroads is anyone's guess but at the same time he's there for a reason and he is as someone else mentioned likely our POV character for Menajarie and how it differs from the rest of Remnant.
 
Wow this weeks episode was really fucking good!

Also no spoilers but the title of the episode being 'Family' really hit the nail on the head holy shit. Now onto actually spoilers!
Ozpin is alive!? Sort of? Is he the boy? The Mirror? Who the fuck knows XD

Great to see the two teachers are okay, really liked the banter between them and Yang's father. I laughed so hard when Tai made that comment about Yang losing her arm and the one teacher I can't remember his name right now (with the green hair) dropped his cup and Yang didn't even flinch.

So Qrow is stalking/protecting RNJR glad to see confirmation on that but also just shows that RNJR aren't as capable yet as we might have originally thought with Qrow covering for them, would also explain why there weren't any other grimm besides the gaist in that big forest battle in episode 1.

All of that was great but then holy shit FUCKING RAVEN finally! This was a great setup you really see the divide between her and Qrow. They aren't being specific enough but after watching the scene twice it seems pretty clear that the 'bandits' who attacked that one village two episodes ago were actually whoever or whatever group Raven 'leads' and are also responsible for making Ren/Nora orphans. Very interesting indeed. Is it possible they are a group that can transform into animals thus the implied transformation of Qrow at the end of Vol 3, and in this episode a Raven is clearly seen when we find out Qrow is massacring Grimm to protect RNJR, perhaps the big footprint we saw back in episode 2 was a person transformed into a large animal at the time.

This answers a HELL of a lot of questions but also brings up so many fucking more I'm just going to name off a few...

Can Yang also transform into an animal if that is indeed their power?

Is Adam perhaps also formally one of these people, Raven wears a much larger Grimm mask and its been suggested by fans that they have some connection between that and the similar katana like sword. Perhaps Raven's former pupil? There is some kind of odd connection at play here but at the same time I'd find it odd that when Qrow brings up Yang losing her arm he doesn't mention who had done it if it was important to either of them which it clearly isn't. So is it just random chance that Adam also wears a grimm mask (and inspired the white fang to use them) and uses a similar weapon?

Are these people that Raven leads a small group or an entirely unknown faction that will come into play going forward?

What exactly are these tribal people that Raven lead? They don't appear to be Fauness but there is a clear animal connection at play here, perhaps not animals perhaps a Grimm connection with the masks and what not?

Does Qrow have this relic that Raven wanted to know if Salem now has? Is it still presumably the cane?

How do Qrow and Raven know about Salem and know about her well enough to know her name?

What kind of code does Raven live by? She mentioned a very obvious the 'strongest survive' type of line but she seems to have a direct code in how she lives such as her rule about saving Yang once. What else is apart of this code and does it matter at all to her personality or the plot? I'd assume it doesn't but they seem to mention it rather somewhat often when Raven is talked about.

What role does Ruby play in all of this? What is her power from?

Qrow mentions he doesn't know who/where the Spring maiden is, this implies that they already know who the Summer/Winter Maidens are, are they people we already know or characters we haven't seen yet? Rumors have questioned if Glenda could be one of the maidens since her powers are so abstract and varied compared to everyone elses but if that was the case I would also think that she would have taken a much more direct role in helping Pyrrah comes to terms with what they wanted her to do.

Is Raven evil? Chaotic neutral? She certainly doesn't seem to want Salem to succeed but doesn't seem to give a damn about much anything else either including her own brother and daughter.

What lead to Raven and/or Qrow leaving their original tribe and what brought Raven back to it?

So Yang has the robo arm (yay) how long until we see her go Super Saiyjan again? Will she fucking learn to not rush in and get her ass kicked after all of this?

And most importantly...

Will it take us another 2 fucking years to get answers to many of these questions!? XD

Edit: The more we learn about team STRQ the more I think that one of the planned seasons will be a prequel story answering all of these crazy questions.
 
I dont think the boy is ozpin. I believe there are many incarnations of the wizard alive in the world both young and old. Either that or descendants. Ozpin pulled some magic trick during his clash with cinders fire blast and vanished possibly becoming some spirit form that can communicate with the other incarnations / descendants of the great wizard. Whatever ozpin did was last resort since it caused him to leave his cane(the relic) behind. cinder believes she defeated him.. but when salem finds out cinder didnt she might think cinder has been lying all of this time. Its scary to think of how salem will react, but then again cinder is apparently the key to victory so I dont think salem will do too much to her >.>


When the boy was in front of the mirror in the barn, notice how he was touching something non existent on his head while looking in the mirror. as if he see's something and is trying to touch it =V I believe he was seeing ozpin or something forming in the mirror. To us we dont see it, but to him he can see something in the reflection that we cannot, why else would he be trying to touch something near his head that isnt actually there. Then suddenly we hear ozpin's voice, most likely coming from the mirror.


This episode felt so short mostly because of the chunk of yang progression not being very info heavy. The boy was far and wide the most clue bound of everything. All the other info from the episode was just filling in more gaps while creating more. Just wait until ren & nora find out someone from ruby's family are part of the bandit group that ruined their childhood. I never imagined THIS is what qrow meant when he said raven has a view on the world he doesnt agree with. She is seriously screwed up in the head for some reason... So powerful yet so bound by loyalties to the point she lets hoer own flesh & blood potentially suffer.
 
I fully believe Ozpins soul is in Oscar. There has been hints of people having two souls (Aka Blakes book) so it's something I fully believe will happen

Raven is probably that bandit tribe leader. So the family dynamics are really going to get interesting later.

And we need to put Professor Port against a giant mouse grimm to see his reaction
 

WPS

Member
That was an excellent episode.

I thought the scene were Taiyang made a joke about Yang's arm was very bravely done. It was very shocking at first, but they did an excellent job of making it believable that that's how the two act together even though we haven't seen it before.

Plus more Raven intrigue is always welcome. And we've finally learnt more about what happened to Ozpin. And by more I mean I suddenly understand even less.

By the way, thanks to the internet, whenever
Raven
was talking about IT, I can't imagine IT as anything other than
Ozpin's hilariously phallic chair
.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
Excellent episode:

I legit gasped when Taiyang made a joke about Yang's arm, thought shit was about to get real. We finally, FINALLY, got to know more about Raven.. who has an incredibly fucked up view on the word 'family/oyalty', and good on Qrow for giving her shit about her lack of empathy for Yang's current dilemma. The father/daughter peptalk was nice and I'm so glad to see Yang find her resolve to get back on the saddle. Get back to form asap and then go look for your OTP!
 
Is Adam perhaps also formally one of these people, Raven wears a much larger Grimm mask and its been suggested by fans that they have some connection between that and the similar katana like sword. Perhaps Raven's former pupil? There is some kind of odd connection at play here but at the same time I'd find it odd that when Qrow brings up Yang losing her arm he doesn't mention who had done it if it was important to either of them which it clearly isn't. So is it just random chance that Adam also wears a grimm mask (and inspired the white fang to use them) and uses a similar weapon?

Yeah that was unbelievable, even for a TV-style conversation between people when the writers want to keep the audience in the dark

Best episode so far, though!
 

Zero-ELEC

Banned
Neat episode, probably the best in the season.

I'm guessing Ren and Nora either belong to Raven's group or have some history with them. This would also fit with the cut scene of Raven attacking JNPR last season.

Nice to see some Taiyang-Yang interactions. Yang's whole thing was well done this episode.
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
I'm wondering if actually those scenes of Oscar are not in present time but in the past.

Or what if the Spring Maiden wasn't really a.... she? What if it's Oscar.
 
I'm wondering if actually those scenes of Oscar are not in present time but in the past.

Or what if the Spring Maiden wasn't really a.... she? What if it's Oscar.

They already established that the spring maidens can only be young girls... Even the term maiden is female in meaning. There cant be a male "maiden" lol. We have basically no evidence to suggest oscar is the spring maiden. Its a very farfetched theory because people are grasping at anything right now due to lack of info. Unless there is some crazy magic at work that literally changed spring into a boy, voice and all, then we should focus on his connections to ozpin / the wizard. Since that actually has supporting evidence that points to a few possibilities.
 

TrueBlue

Member
I'll write more comprehensive impressions later, but I'm pleased to see the Volume continue its good start. That the episode was engaging without any action scenes is hugely encouraging.
 
Okay, so watched it once to get my head around it (best of the volume yet), and then again before writing this so as not to miss anything:

I still dunno if Oscar touching his face as if something was there was janky animation creeping through, or if he is indeed seeing something that isn't there for us - Ozpin. Regardless, I laughed something fierce at how chipper and pleasant Oz was when he spoke.

I loved the scene in the kitchen, for so many reasons. I love seeing characters just chew fat and laugh about things, something we've only really seen from RNJR this volume, and it's great to know Tai is a lot more connected to the teachers at Beacon than is first let on. There's even a bit more of a hint at his personality, both younger & now, that goes beyond 'dad'. He drops Qrow's name as a jerk when laughing at him, he's clearly a prankster, but also gets cagey as hell when he's in the same spotlight - meaning Qrow wasn't lying about those inappropriate stories to Ruby and Yang. And yeah, he isn't just the 'daddy's little girl' guy to his daughters, since he's the first to throw hard-love jokes at them even in front of guests. Great scene RT!

And Qrow & Raven! Is it me, or have the subtly ajusted her facial design now they have Maya? In the ending of Volume 2 she looked almost like a pallet swap for Yang, whereas here her face seems touch more rounded? regardless, I absolutely love her look.

And I love how the story is doubling-down on the notion that Raven is a nasty piece of work by this show's standards. She isn't in on Salem's council it seems, unless she is lying to Qrow about wanting to know what they're up against, but she clearly isn't on the kingdom's side either.

The whole thing got me thinking about culture, beliefs, and morales in the show. Raven's 'survival of the fittest' belief is vile by our standards, but is a sound method of caring for what you want to protect (though in her case, Qrow is right and she needs to rethink who her real loved ones are), in a world that is full to the brim with Grimm. What's more, as heinous as the Sion village attack was, those people chose to live beyond the kingdoms despite knowing this? why? Everything in Vale is idealic, and Atlas is a little bit morally grey at worst! What is so fucked up about safety in numbers in the kingdoms?

Perhaps, as this got me thinking: What if this series depicted a long-standing, and almost invisible war on culture? What if the four kingdoms do have a nasty side? Like, say, the assimilation of culture and folklore. The sort of thing Ozpin himself said people fought against 100 years ago, to protect their indviduality. Why then, with a group of kingdoms that are lead by like-minded people as Ozpin, would so many villages turn their back? The answer would make a whole lot of sense if it meant they give up their own beliefs and identities in exchange for living in the kingdoms. It would certainly explain why they'd choose the risk of bandits and Grimm, and it would also bring a bit more clarity as to why Salem is so hell-bent on their destruction too. What if she is the last remnant of a culture the kingdoms already destroyed?

Tl;dr any episode that gets me thinking so much is a massive success in my books. Kudos, RT, that's 4 for 4 that I've loved so far!

Didn't they say there had been some rare cases of guys receiving the powers and it not going well, or am I misremembering?

I think they said if that happens (the maiden thinks of a guy, or some old hag at the point of death), then the power goes to someone random, which I took to mean any young girl in the world, ala Avatar.
 

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
Ahhhhh yes. The story of RWBY returns. These are the things that start me re-watching the season before every episode. In fact I will. Tomorrow.
Probably didn't want to kill the site on Extra Life weekend
I believe this is just like last season? Three episodes then world of.
 

naeS

Member
This episode hit me in all the feels. My favorite so far. I'm glad
we got more Yang :).
And RAVEN!
 

kulapik

Member
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RWBY onesie:

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Team RWBY vinyls


Hand painted Ruby tree ornament:
2" blindboxes

Yang's Treezero figure
...and a shower curtain. Not sure if I should show this pic without putting it in spoiler (warning: naked Miles)


plus some yet to be announced merch
 
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Thoughts:
Blake's a literal princess.

Sun cannot stop putting his foot in his mouth

Monk White Fang are creepier than faceless murder cult White Fang

What's her Dad's animal totem? I'm guessing Lion or Gorilla.

Oh look. It's the Joker again

You can buy Jaune's hoodie now:

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Sun putting his foot in his mouth was so great.

I think Blakes dad is a Panther if I had to guess.

Overall good episode but a little short and felt void of some details that could help understand Blakes role within the White Fang after her father stepped down as leader.

Oh yeah also, Her dad was the leader before Adam.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
Just saw the latest ep:

Bumblebee is at risk of being demolished. I don't like this, one bit.

Other than that, a rather short episode.
 
Sun putting his foot in his mouth was so great.

I think Blakes dad is a Panther if I had to guess.

Overall good episode but a little short and felt void of some details that could help understand Blakes role within the White Fang after her father stepped down as leader.

Oh yeah also, Her dad was the leader before Adam.

Sienna Khan is the current leader not Adam. I do wonder why her family cant see through the lies. If the white fang REALLY were trying to look "separate" from this splinter group they are fabricating then they would simply make a rival organization to fight it. The fact that they keep the white fang name and look the same only shows they are lying about not being in bed with the dark agenda lol

I really really do not like how volatile this volume is setting things up to be. It is going to be even worse than vol 3 I feel when all of these elements start crashing against the glass. There is such a high level of bad that can happen this time around on so many levels D= Before it was semi obvious what would happen what with us having a near constant eye in the bad guy's plan. Now the crazy bad elements are going to happen in every corner of the cast and just layer on top of the pain they already carry. I feel like it is almost too much for it all to come to a head in vol 4. Since we are already over halfway done I really sense either a cliff hanger or something else is going to end this season. There is way to much building up for it all to be satisfyingly explained or resolved in just a handful of more episodes.
 
Since we are already over halfway done I really sense either a cliff hanger or something else is going to end this season.

Nitpicking here, but this was episode 5. There are 12 episodes this season. Next week is the mid-point, which is supposed to be a
Weiss
episode.
 

Wanderer5

Member
Pretty good episode this week.

Well the charity event escalated a bit. And man go Ironwood.

Also chuckled at:

Tyrian: Plastic soldiers and pawns. My heart and body belong only to our goddess.
Ruby: Cinder.
Tyrian: Hmph, only in her wildest dreams.

XD
 
Have to say my interest in the series decreased significantly after they killed my two favorite characters last season. I used to watch the new episodes as soon as I saw they were out, but I just got around to watching episode 5 tonight. I wish the series could go back to the fairly light hearted series I thought I was watching during the first two seasons.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
It not that small lol. Close to the large range with height in particular that I feel I should quote it. *shrug*

What I meant was that there's no size difference if you display them with or without the quotes:

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I only mention it as whenever I see an image in a quote, I click on it to see it at full resolution and nothing happened in this case.
 

Wanderer5

Member
What I meant was that there's no size difference if you display them with or without the quotes:

I only mention it as whenever I see an image in a quote, I click on it to see it at full resolution and nothing happened in this case.

What? I see a difference in size.
 

Wanderer5

Member
Are you on mobile maybe? They appear as the same small 200x272 sized images on my monitor.

Oh now it has changed lol (no this was on desktop). Well okay that is weird.

Oh it a wiki image, no wonder, through it lasted longer with its original size for me lol (it 765x1040).
 
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