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Sen. Elizabeth Warren schools Donald J. Trump's education pick during confirmation

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Juarez had the foresight to separate state and church in the constitution the liberals of his era crafted. That alone gave us secular education obligatory and state mandated. No church was alowed to made their own programs (that is until fucking salinas de gortari) and all of us were educated under the same books, same teachings and same assignments.

Also, compared with fundamentalist christian sects, the catholic church is WAAAY more progresive in some issues like the ones you mention (evolution and the like)

I think this may be a big reason why conservatives in the US are so backwards. Mexico is Catholic in its vast majority and for all the criticism that they get I have to commend them for not being this ass backwards. I was raised in a very conservative catholic school and we learned about evolution, for crying out loud! Our conservative politicians dont need to cater to christian nutjobs that think the universe was created in 7 days some 5000 years ago.
 

studyguy

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All of these confirmations will go through. Blame Democrats for getting cocky thinking they were winning in 2016 and voting in a law where you don't need 60 votes for confirmation anymore.

Cocky?

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Rules were changed because Dems were getting stonewalled at literally every instance possible by the GOP. Stopping the filibuster for instance was not exactly done because people were getting cocky. It was because it was getting used as a tool to effectively crippling the DC Circuit court appointments. Nothing was getting done, what the fuck do you do then?
 
Cocky?


Rules were changed because Dems were getting stonewalled at literally every instance possible by the GOP. Stopping the filibuster for instance was not exactly done because people were getting cocky. It was because it was getting used as a tool to effectively crippling the DC Circuit court appointments. Nothing was getting done, what the fuck do you do then?

Cocky might be the wrong word, but they would have never changed the rules of they thought they were going to lose in 2016. Now all of these shitheads Trump picked are going to get through.
 

Gutek

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Why do we even have a confirmation process anymore if there's no way to get rejected?

The EV and the confirmations process have proven to be nothing more but rubber stamps. America's checks and balances have failed.
 
It's a shame that "schooling" someone due to lack of qualifications or knowledge doesn't mean shit at this point. "Doesn't know the first thing about the job? That means she's a rogue outsider, she'll shake it up!"
 

commedieu

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Isn't this the second time she was roasted today? Where she didn't know the difference between growth and proficiency?

Burnie got her too. He's actually done it for most picks. He asked her if education should be free for everyone.


You won't believe what she said next.
 
How do Trump supporters listen to these people and tell themselves this is fine?

I imagine that there are a group of people that are completely unaware of just how important these roles are and thus don't really care who gets to be in said role. Probably almost a bit of trust in Lord Trump and beleiving that the people he appointed to those posts must surely be capable of being effective as said posts.

Going to be a horrible four years for America.
 
More like generations because it will take decades to repair the damage. And in the meantime, people will have memories of goldfish and keep voting for people who will destroy any progress because the foxes aren't happening fast enough.
 

bionic77

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She did roast her but this reminds me of the obstructionism the Republicans used in 2008.

It is warranted this time but man this country is getting more and more divided. Not sure how it ends. :(
 
How do Trump supporters listen to these people and tell themselves this is fine?

Majority of them aren't seeing these hearings or getting any news about just how shitty his picks have been. Head over to free republic or some other right wing trash pit to see how the ones paying attention rationalize the incompetence of these nominees.
 

Opto

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How do Trump supporters listen to these people and tell themselves this is fine?

rural america really hates teachers because they can eventually make more than the average salary and they get benefits. I grew up in an area where the newspaper's editor hated teachers so much, they posted their salaries right next to their names. (legal because it's technically public information). combine that with some twisted worship of "school choice and free market" american education is constantly at risk
 

Aikidoka

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Couldn't make it through that.

edit: why do people keep saying that she practically guaranteed the position? Republican majority?
 

Opto

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Couldn't make it through that.

edit: why do people keep saying that she practically guaranteed the position? Republican majority?

yup, and dems can't filibuster appointees cause they nuked it in order to get obama nominees through
 

ezrarh

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Honestly, if we're gonna cycle through Presidents like Trump moving forward, perhaps Democrats should argue to end a lot of these federal agencies so as long as the money is proportionately returned back to the states/cities.
 

reKon

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"They're just whining cuzz they LOST!!! We need to unite and heal!"

I love how, "get over it, you lost" is the most common reply I've been seeing in comment sections full of Trump supporters. Like fucking stupid and out of touch can you be?

Show at least some type of competence. At least acknowledge that you that not everything is going perfectly and that you're an informed American.
 

RaidenZR

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I just caught up on watching clips of this hearing. My god... This woman is so unprepared and unqualified. Is she truly on track to get voted in?
 

RPGCrazied

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I just caught up on watching clips of this hearing. My god... This woman is so unprepared and unqualified. Is she truly on track to get voted in?

They all are. That is all Republicans care about. As long as they have the R in their title qualifications don't matter.
 
Her lack of understanding about IDEA being a federal requirement makes me feel a little better about getting out of special education, but it also makes me hurt for all those kids.
 

Laieon

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Between Warren and Tim Kaine proving that this lady is completely ignorant as to what he job would require, I hope someone gets the message. Unfortunately she's a republican, so most people on the other side are probably just throwing their fingers in their ears and screaming "lalalalala I can't hear you".
 

Akronis

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While I like her ideas and what she stands, Warren is a pompous ass.



Warren was a bankruptcy specialist and some how did that with out ever going through one. How could she be an expert in something she has no experience in?

Devos is an idiot but just ask tough direct questions not these pandering bullshit story build up questions.

Maybe because Warren isn't the incoming Education Secretary and generally these people need to have experience in these things?

You can criticize without being able to do the same, guy.
 
Everyone's having their laughs now, but THEY always get the last laugh. She'll be confirmed easily. This is just something these people have to sit through for a couple days and that's it.
 
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