it's the same with 3DS XL with "90% bigger screen".So I haven't really been keeping up with this revision but why does it not look as small as that one comparison image that appeared when the S was announced?
Or was that just a fake mockup?
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First Xbox One S impressions from a lucky Norwegian
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Samurai G0SU
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I think this image helps explain what hdr can do. This image shows how much more color will be presented on a TV capable of hdr. To note, The TV needs good hardware to support it, like FALD. It also helps show true deep black and bright whites from what I read too.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Dolby vision supposedly is a little better, but hdr10 is the open format which 4k Blu-rays supports atm.*
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Dolby vision supposedly is a little better, but hdr10 is the open format which 4k Blu-rays supports atm.*
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Hawk269
Member
I agree. As I posted on the previous page, HDR movies was a game changer for me. While 4k was very nice improvement in movies over 1080p, the combination of HDR and 4k is truly breathtaking. I cannot wait to see what HDR gaming will look like.
A lot of people probably feel like Microsoft could use some flak over it.
I don't think it's pedantic at all when they themselves released that graphic. It's not a big deal but it's not pedantic.
GraceflAnger
Member
I think this image helps explain what hdr can do. This image shows how much more color will be presented on a TV capable of hdr. To note, The TV needs good hardware to support it, like FALD. It also helps show true deep black and bright whites from what I read too.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Dolby vision supposedly is a little better, but hdr10 is the open format which 4k Blu-rays supports atm.*
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You would be correct.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Did MS hire new hardware designers this year? This is great looking stuff.
Panos panaynanynanos
Pineapple panera bread panini.
Remember this guy?
http://www.minimallyminimal.com/2012/7/3/the-next-microsoft.html
He shared his design ideas for MS openly. MS hired him.
He's been working at hardware and design language division since 2013 and was involved in the Xbox One S.
Of note, he is heavily influenced by renowned Braun designer Dieter Rams. Many of the people in the Microsoft design group are. Just looking up Rams work you can clearly see the influences.
Remember this guy?
http://www.minimallyminimal.com/2012/7/3/the-next-microsoft.html
He shared his design ideas for MS openly. MS hired him.
He's been working at hardware and design language division since 2013 and was involved in the Xbox One S.
Of note, he is heavily influenced by renowned Braun designer Dieter Rams. Many of the people in the Microsoft design group are. Just looking up Rams work you can clearly see the influences.
Apple too.
Now if only they let this design team design the OS as well.Remember this guy?
http://www.minimallyminimal.com/2012/7/3/the-next-microsoft.html
He shared his design ideas for MS openly. MS hired him.
He's been working at hardware and design language division since 2013 and was involved in the Xbox One S.
Of note, he is heavily influenced by renowned Braun designer Dieter Rams. Many of the people in the Microsoft design group are. Just looking up Rams work you can clearly see the influences.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Just pick up a Vizio P Series (50 or 60 inch). HDR modes let you use GLL on it. No tests back on how well it works but the TV is already 19ms in all other modes with GLL enabled. Even if you have to use HDMI 1-4 it should still be below 30ms with GLL. That's pretty good, IMO.
Backfoggen
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Dark10x has said that DF is currently writing an article about HDR input latency, I would strongly suggest for that and other tests to come out before making a purchase if you plan on using HDR for games.
Angelus Errare
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Two different fields of study. You'll just get an iOS8 situation all over again. Hardware design guys trying to do UX and UI design isnt the best approach.
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
No lead-in trade-in special at GameStop, eh? No matter, don't need it.
Wonder if the 2TB model will get a temporary $50 price drop or a good bundle deal this fall/winter around the holidays.
Wonder if the 2TB model will get a temporary $50 price drop or a good bundle deal this fall/winter around the holidays.
knightfolk
Member
Are the Netflix and Amazon apps undated to support 4K? Also is it know if it will pass 4K via HDMI in as well?
I mean not them fully designing the OS, that's probably true, but they should consult and say how they approach their design philosophy. Simple designs, flat and more faded colors or more neony or contrasty, types of fonts, background coloring, use of blur...etc.
I could see the 500GB being set at $249 with maybe even a game and a 4K BluRay movie the launch month of the PS4 Neo.
People concerned about a lack of flak.
It was a joke, referencing (im pretty sure) this topic:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1238955
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Microsoft deserves some flak. It is known.
therealbigrich
Member
I wish MS would clarify. The only thing that makes sense is that taking away the power brink would bring it to a 40 % reduction. I don't care either way but just hoping maybe if MS does clarify ppl will stop bringing it up
Caayn
Member
Your TV supports HDR but it probably won't be able to produce a good HDR picture, due to the backlight. So don't expect to much from it.
it's the same with 3DS XL with "90% bigger screen".
Depends on the TV brand and model. My LG OLED allows the use of game mode during HDR playback, and it even allows me to disable the big post-processing culprit that causes a lot of input lag when it's enabled.
Remember this guy?
http://www.minimallyminimal.com/2012/7/3/the-next-microsoft.html
He shared his design ideas for MS openly. MS hired him.
He's been working at hardware and design language division since 2013 and was involved in the Xbox One S.
Of note, he is heavily influenced by renowned Braun designer Dieter Rams. Many of the people in the Microsoft design group are. Just looking up Rams work you can clearly see the influences.
Thanks for that insight, you really can see the influence
freefornow
Gold Member
Might have been a good marketing slogan for the One S
Seriously, some people look for things to complain about. They like winding themselves up for some reason. It's an e3 promo video that isn't used anywhere else. they just brought it up to moan.
Black Republican
Member
god bless the internets
Caayn
Member
No difference in the sound department compared to the XB1.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Was ready to get this on day one but changed my mind for this reason, decided to go with the Samsung 4K player instead. What an absolutely absurd oversight to release a 4K blu ray player and not include such a basic feature.
Impulsor
Member
It only doesn't support Atmos right?
What is needed to get dolby atmos? I have a Home cinema currently, I assume I would have to get a new one that is comaptible with atmos.
xenorevlis
Member
The only ones complaining or winding themselves up are you and other folk who don't seem to understand why Microsoft deserves some flak for this...
YoshiMax
Member
The 2tb is a limited run so I doubt it'll be discounted at all. It's the only one with the vertical stand also.
ScaryShark
Banned
Atmos/DTS: X compatible receiver and UHD player.
Impulsor
Member
and how many speakers would I need? I have a 5.1 setting currently.
irrotational
Member
A car based picture on the same theme:-
9.2
This.
it's the same with 3DS XL with "90% bigger screen".
That's worse, because it's showing them side by side.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
No, it does not. It doesn't support DTS X either which is also a big let down.
This is true, you would need to upgrade your receiver to decode an Atmos signal but you DO NOT need a UHD player. Any standard blu ray player that will send a lossless signal via bitstream is compatible with Atmos - which is nearly all of them. Since this has been a standard feature on all players for a decade, it's all the more puzzling that MS continues to ignore it. Even the 9-year old PS3 is Atmos compatible
This is not true, entry-level Atmos will work with 7 speakers AKA 7.1 or 5.2.1. A 9 channel reciever will cost about $2000 but a 7 channel Atmos receiver could be had for as little as $400. In a 7 channel Atmos setup the front height speakers will replace the 2 rear speakers.
Yep and even with Scorpio (and Neo) I'm waiting until I get a 4K TV And a price drop and feedback if the upgrades are noticeable
Looking forward to August 2nd!
As soon as this was announced, brought a LG 55 E6, and as much 4K HDR Blu Rays as possible, and got a sub to Netflix (and in the future Amazon Prime). Marvel Luke Cage/Iron Fist/Defenders will be amazing! Marco Polo was just stunning in Dolby Vision.
Was hoping the Xbox One S would support Dolby Atmos too, but HDR should do for now
Hope more developers release games that support HDR .. just Forza Horizon 3 + Gears 4 at the moment?
As soon as this was announced, brought a LG 55 E6, and as much 4K HDR Blu Rays as possible, and got a sub to Netflix (and in the future Amazon Prime). Marvel Luke Cage/Iron Fist/Defenders will be amazing! Marco Polo was just stunning in Dolby Vision.
Was hoping the Xbox One S would support Dolby Atmos too, but HDR should do for now
Hope more developers release games that support HDR .. just Forza Horizon 3 + Gears 4 at the moment?
If you are doing Atmos, do it right. Fuck that cheap ass shit and ghetto setups.
.2 should be standard anyway and your first priority as it improves bass so much it is not even funny.
And really to replicate anything that makes Atmos special you should have 9 speakers. Otherwise might as well don't even mention that the Xbox doesn't support Atmos, 7 channel linear PCM is just fine.
''deilig'' can mean sweet and delicious.
The problem with Google translate is that it disregards context completely.
''Using the console have been inaudible so far and its specially sweet that the external power supply have been dropped completely''