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[Neo C.]

Why the Wii jump.

 

[CitizenCope]

360 Numbers are some what surprising.
I know they are still horrible compared to the rest but it shocks me to think 4500 japanese gamers walked into their local game shops over the last week and chose a 360.

 

[Paracelsus]

360 Numbers are some what surprising.
I know they are still horrible compared to the rest but it shocks me to think 4500 japanese gamers walked into their local game shops over the last week and chose a 360.

Vesperia is approaching.

 

[FrankT]

360 Numbers are some what surprising.
I know they are still horrible compared to the rest but it shocks me to think 4500 japanese gamers walked into their local game shops over the last week and chose a 360.

Yea, it's done ~10k in the last two weeks. Not sure where that bump has come from heh.

Vesperia is approaching.

Or perhaps this.

 

[DC R1D3R]

360 Numbers are some what surprising.
I know they are still horrible compared to the rest but it shocks me to think 4500 japanese gamers walked into their local game shops over the last week and chose a 360.

It seems like the hardcore know where to get their fix.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

The Tales franchise has gone through so much bullshit over the last couple of years though so it's really not all that surprising.

Bullshit, visually.

 

[JavyOO7]

Mario Kart Wii doing fantastic as usual!

THe more people buy Wii hardware, the more of a chance that MK Wii has the same chance to compete against the DS version.

Yes!! /flex

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Why the Wii jump.

Why not?
Anyway, MC numbers will be different and PSP > Wii.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Tales in bigger, rarer days. Though it seems 2005 is when the floodgates opened.

Note that in both of these images I've left out budget rereleases to prevent things from being even more cluttered.

I had to abbreviate these more than the other; the length of the URL was causing a problem with my method of transferring things to a GAF-postable URL and back.

 

[kswiston]

A flop? I really disagree with that. It might technically be a follow up, but its still clearly not a mothership game and its sold out its initial shipment with little trouble. On track to be the highest grossing current gen console RPG..can't call it a flop.

TOS2 taking the title of the highest selling jrpg so far this generation would be more impressive if most of its competition wasn't coming from the 360. Jrpg releases this gen have been pretty anemic outside of the portables.

Still TOS2 is doing ok. I'm sure it will be profitable after it's been released in NA and EU

 

[Vinci]

Why not?

Agreed. I think it makes more sense to ask why the Wii dived rather than sold more, as diving is contrary to its natural inertia.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Ok, please forget the numbers posted one site before, they are not correct.


But wtf´s 2chan not posting any numbers. >_>

 

[schuelma]

Ok, please forget the numbers posted one site before, they are not correct.


But wtf´s 2chan not posting any numbers. >_>

Hardware or software or both?

 

[cw_sasuke]

Hardware or software or both?

hope both... tos2 can still perform better *hope*

 

[FrankT]

Both I believe.

 

[schuelma]

hope both... tos2 can still perform better *hope*

I doubt it- I assume the initial top 10 is correct, so ToS will still be around 30K.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Hardware or software or both?

Both....

2chan ftl.

 

[schuelma]

Both....

2chan ftl.

Arrgghh

but the initial Famitsu top 10 without numbers is correct though, I assume?

 

[jj984jj]

Arrgghh

but the initial Famitsu top 10 without numbers is correct though, I assume?

Famitsu posts that on their own website each week, so yes.

http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/sokuho/1216514_1796.html

 

[_Alkaline_]

So, the 30K TOS2 numbers are right or wrong?

 

[Captain Smoker]

Arrgghh

but the initial Famitsu top 10 without numbers is correct though, I assume?

y-koron @ VGC hartz [I know, I know, but he makes a great job], who translates the Top30 for VGC said that the numbers are not correct, he speaks japanese, so we should believe him.

Anyway, there were no LTD numbers in the original post @ 2chan [normally they always post them, too], so the software numbers should be wrong.

 

[schuelma]

So, the 30K TOS2 numbers are right or wrong?

The 28K is wrong for now, but they should be close to that.

 

[Captain Smoker]

So, the 30K TOS2 numbers are right or wrong?

Should be wrong.


Sorry for the disaccord.

 

[Neo C.]

Why not?

Because I can't see any new remarkable Wii game on the top ten. Seems like WiiFit and a bunch of other longsellers are reason enough.

Edit: Oh well, wrong numbers. Nevermind.

 

[_Alkaline_]

Should be wrong.


Sorry for the disaccord.

That's ok! I'm glad cause I'm hoping TOS2 does better than those numbers.

I wonder why TOS2 isn't selling as well as the first though? Is it because people are starting to become tired of Tales (if they aren't already)?

 

[schuelma]

That's ok! I'm glad cause I'm hoping TOS2 does better than those numbers.

I wonder why TOS2 isn't selling as well as the first though? Is it because people are starting to become tired of Tales (if they aren't already)?

It's never been positioned as a main title like Symphonia was- it was always considered a spin off.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

So, the 30K TOS2 numbers are right or wrong?

They're not known, but based on Wii Fit's performance they're probably close to that or a bit lower.

 

[apotema]

That's ok! I'm glad cause I'm hoping TOS2 does better than those numbers.

I wonder why TOS2 isn't selling as well as the first though? Is it because people are starting to become tired of Tales (if they aren't already)?

They are wrong but they will likely be lower than 28k, hardcore gamers FTL

 

[markatisu]

It's never been positioned as a main title like Symphonia was- it was always considered a spin off.

With that said I think even if the numbers are similar its doing pretty well for a "spin-off"

I mean it did what like 150k last week, so another 30k would be about a week away from 200k and ToS1 did what in the range of 300k LTD?

Haven't most successful 3rd party Wii games in JP been around 200-300k, given the landscape of Japan its probably the best Namco can hope for outside the portables because they certainly wont get those sales from the 360 crowd (not sure about PS3 but seeing as how 1st party titles have a hard time breaking 200-300k it would seem unlikely)

 

[cvxfreak]

Did we get the whole top 30 Famitsu from the previous week as well?

 

[schuelma]

Did we get the whole top 30 Famitsu from the previous week as well?

Yeah, donny posted it in last weeks thread. I think it came last Thursday

 

[toypop]

So, the 30K TOS2 numbers are right or wrong?

Considering Shinobi's post (Band 45K InitialD 44K NanaShi 31K), It may be slightly less than 30k or around.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Did we get the whole top 30 Famitsu from the previous week as well?

Yes, but on Thursday.

--> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11828041&postcount=167

 

[_Alkaline_]

They're not known, but based on Wii Fit's performance they're probably close to that or a bit lower.

Well that sucks.

 

[Stormbringer]

Band Brothers DX - 45k
Initial D - 44k
Nanashi no Game - 31k

ToS Wii/Derby Stallion - No numbers, but both sold around 90% of their initial shipment so far.

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10114558929.html

 

[Busaiku]

ToS Wii/Derby Stallion - No numbers, but both sold around 90% of their initial shipment.

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10114558929.html

Wow, that sounds great for ToS.
But then again, it does mention the "inital shipment". Its first week figures were about 70% or so of that (I think).
Did they ever restock?

 

[schuelma]

ToS Wii/Derby Stallion - No numbers, but both sold around 90% of their initial shipment.

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10114558929.html

Then the 170K first shipment number he previously reported must not have been correct. Looks like about a 200K 1st shipment for ToS.

 

[botticus]

Band Brothers DX - 45k
Initial D - 44k
Nanashi no Game - 31k

ToS Wii/Derby Stallion - No numbers, but both sold around 90% of their initial shipment so far.

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10114558929.html

No restocks? Or I guess we should expect those for this week.

So why is everybody calling Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World, Tales of Symphonia 2?

It's a sequel to ToS, albeit a spin-off title, and I think your post kinda answered your own question.

Dawn of the New World/DotNW/KoR or 2. We're lazy.

 

[ksamedi]

So why is everybody calling Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World, Tales of Symphonia 2?

 

[Captain Smoker]

Nice numbers for Band Brothers.

It´s scary, but nearly every peace of software from Nintendo becomes a top seller, let´s see how many units BB DX is going to manage till end of the generation.

 

[HK-47]

So why is everybody calling Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World, Tales of Symphonia 2?

Channeling ethelred?

 

[vanguardian1]

So why is everybody calling Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World, Tales of Symphonia 2?

From the perspective of budget and effort, it is considered a spin-off.

From the perspective of story/characters, it is a sequel.

Take your pick. (I side with the story/characters as primary importance myself)

 

[Stormbringer]

Did they ever restock?

No restocks? Or I guess we should expect those for this week.

No mention of restocks in the entry... But yeah, given the sell-through, seems like things are starting to get a bit tight, so we should probably expect restocks soon.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

No restocks? Or I guess we should expect those for this week.


It's a sequel to ToS, albeit a spin-off title, and I think your post kinda answered your own question.

Dawn of the New World/DotNW/KoR or 2. We're lazy.

It's also the sorta thing that makes people seem foolish in the end, though. Like when everyone called Yakuza Kenzan by "Yakuza 3", then Yakuza 3 was announced. Or for a Talesy example, when Namco USA called Eternia "Tales of Destiny 2", then a proper Tales of Destiny 2 was created.

 

[botticus]

It's also the sorta thing that makes people seem foolish in the end, though. Like when everyone called Yakuza Kenzan by "Yakuza 3", then Yakuza 3 was announced. Or for a Talesy example, when Namco USA called Eternia "Tales of Destiny 2", then a proper Tales of Destiny 2 was created.

I will gladly accept this foolishness if we get a third Symphonia game.

 

[markatisu]

It's also the sorta thing that makes people seem foolish in the end, though. Like when everyone called Yakuza Kenzan by "Yakuza 3", then Yakuza 3 was announced. Or for a Talesy example, when Namco USA called Eternia "Tales of Destiny 2", then a proper Tales of Destiny 2 was created.

If Tales of Symphonia 2 does come out I will gladly be called a fool and call this game Dawn of the New World.

But until that happens its ToS2 to me for this very reason

From the perspective of story/characters, it is a sequel.

 

[schuelma]

Goddamnit 2ch give me my numbers!

 

[perfectchaos007]

Good sales for Wii, but I wonder if MC will still have the PSP ahead of the Wii in sales like they did last week.
(I'm just talking about weekly sales of course, not LTD or anything)

 

[schuelma]

Good sales for Wii, but I wonder if MC will still have the PSP ahead of the Wii in sales like they did last week.
(I'm just talking about weekly sales of course, not LTD or anything)

Those hardware numbers were fake.

 

[donny2112]

2ch give me my numbers!

It's a leak. Leaks sometimes get closed. I'd love for it to continue (games debuting outside Top 30, individual week sales for normally combined weeks), but it may not. If it's just changed to coming out after the Media-Create data instead of before it, I'd be fine with that, too.