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Strider (Capcom/Double Helix, PC/PS4/XB1/PS360, 2014) [Open World, Orig Devs, Video]
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Knux-Future
Banned
Not talking about the OTs. Thankfully by then all of the haters are gone lol as most of the time only the fanatics care enough...that would be pretty sad to keeping talking shit on a game you don't care for lol.
As for Capcom, yeah they messed up but to me they also gave me some of the best games this gen in Dogma, SFIV and to me at least DMC4.
That is a fucking abomination. I know since I had it.
This is the good console strider:
Knux-Future
Banned
Ok. This makes sense.
Hopefully they hear the complaints and take them to heart then.
Personally I think this looks cool and most of the flaws seem to be based off of a demo on god mode.
but we will see.
That is a fucking abomination. I know since I had it.
This is the good console strider:
Didn't much care for the NES version either to be honest but it wasn't THAT bad. But year the Genesis/Arcade version of Strider is best.
gunstarhero
Member
Damn - I didn't realize there was 7 minutes of gameplay video out there.
I'm not digging the bullet sponge crap going on - they should go with 6 hit kill system (and 3 for taking heavy hits like swords or missiles).
Everything else about the game looks great.
I'm not digging the bullet sponge crap going on - they should go with 6 hit kill system (and 3 for taking heavy hits like swords or missiles).
Everything else about the game looks great.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
This sounds like it could be along the lines of a Shadow Complex Metroid Vania type deal.
That would seriously rock.
That would seriously rock.
gunstarhero
Member
I thought I read DH's involvement was minimal on this thread, and that Capcom was doing all the design...
Anyone confirm this?
The Hermit
Member
Aria, Circle, Ecclesia are better than Symphony, or at least, comparable.
This game looks like Shadow Complex, but somehow less appealing.
^
See, this is the sort of audience Capcom and Double Helix are going after. It's not even worth discussing the issue when there's a fundamental disagreement about the core of the issue.
radios shipping overview
Member
Well, when an ambitious and risky game is a success, then you use that as a starting point and add a little bit of new stuff, is that an ambitious or risky move?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Aria I'll accept...but Circle?
C'mon boy
C'mon boy
Black Door
Banned
DH were gods a week ago, now they're shit because you hate Capcom. Make up your minds, dorks
Because these are all the same people. What?
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Gods? For what? Am I missing something here?
The developer of any game is always the best barometer for the end product you're going to receive. Always.
What? If this is referring to KI, then that was mostly people being pleasantly surprised at how well they were handling a fighting game franchise which, let's be honest, didn't have a very good reputation in the first place.
Yes, I agree with that. I just wish more people would offer constructive criticism like some we've read on this thread. You can say Double Helix sucks while you're at it, but if you just leave it at that, you're not helping them improve (assuming you want the game to be good), and they already showed that at least they care about fan feedback.
If they care as much for Strider as they do for KI, those posts shitting on the game but saying why they think it's bad will probably help make the game better.
If they zoom out the camera and come out and say "hey guys, it was just for demo purposes, the game won't be easy mode bullet sponge", both the camera adjustment and the statement will be because of people criticising it, not blindly following.
I do think some people are being way too harsh, but they have all the right to if they so desire, instead of trying to convince them they shouldn't feel how they feel, we should talk about what we do and don't like, offering good feedback that can improve the game.
I really liked the trailer and gameplay footage, and I'm very excited for it, but I hope they listen to the people that have complains about it, not me. If they wanna listen to me, then listen when I say the camera doesn't work the way it is right now with all those offscreen shots coming at you. If they "fix" (since we don't know how it is in the actual game) the bullet sponge but don't bring the camera back (or maybe remove offscreen shots? I don't know how I feel about that though), it'll be cheap imo
I don't really care if its "open" world you are still going from rooms to rooms, rooftop to rooftop in a linear fashion like a Strider game. It's really about the game play, how it controls, how it feels, the speed, the difficulty level and of course the level plus boss designs. Strider enemies are 90% generic fodder enemies like in most arcade games, it's really about the bosses.
Game is still almost a year out, it will get more polish most likely.
Game is still almost a year out, it will get more polish most likely.
Uh no they weren't. I was rolling in laughter when I found out they were the KI developers.
woah woah woah easy there.
I also liked RE6 and Bionic Commando, but I can fully understand why most people would not, but DMC4? Get outta here.
shadowstar
Member
When they did the live demo of it in the panel, they didn't really give information about what was coming. They just said here is a surprise, check out this live demo. They didn't show the Double Helix logo until the end. Watching it like that I thought it looked great. The bullet sponge stuff is due to the live demo. They wanted to show off some of the combat like bullet deflection and having it be a normal difficulty may have been too much for the time allotted if they failed (which he did) and died. You could tell this was still early and that everything in the demo (and by extension the trailer) was built specifically to show off the concept. Sort of like the original Bioshock Infinite gameplay trailer. He constantly received upgrades like Ouroboros and all the Cypher power ups. The area was designed to show off a lot of the ideas they have.
My only issue with it is I think some of the upgrades will be redundant and uninspired. I like how he has all his movement from Strider 2, but I feel in not limiting him, they had to add some lame power ups like the plasma properties to the Cypher to accommodate what we expect from the genre now. I still prefer that to limiting his moves though. I'd hate it if double jump or wall cling were upgrades I have to find.
I think going into it with an open mind and not being tainted by the Double Helix logo gave me a radically different perspective than what seems to be the majority here. It looks fun to me and I can't wait to play. Also, cool Strider scarf give-a-way yeah!
My only issue with it is I think some of the upgrades will be redundant and uninspired. I like how he has all his movement from Strider 2, but I feel in not limiting him, they had to add some lame power ups like the plasma properties to the Cypher to accommodate what we expect from the genre now. I still prefer that to limiting his moves though. I'd hate it if double jump or wall cling were upgrades I have to find.
I think going into it with an open mind and not being tainted by the Double Helix logo gave me a radically different perspective than what seems to be the majority here. It looks fun to me and I can't wait to play. Also, cool Strider scarf give-a-way yeah!
baphomet
Member
At least having an open world will give the game a much longer playtime. People seem to forget that the level based Strider games could be completed in less than half an hour easily. Strider 1 probably half of that.
Ha ha ha, that never happened
i3allistic
Member
game look like trash, hope they scrap it and have Platinum games do the game instead ....
radios shipping overview
Member
Only if you credit feed.
I'm sure they could make the game a respectable 4-5 hours and keep the linear, set piece-driven style, if they wanted.
Omegasquash
Member
Oh wow.
And it's by a crappy developer.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Max gets hype over everything. He is a great guy for the FGC but just because Max likes it and is hyped, doesnt mean anything.
I like DMC4 (and SFxT) too for that matter. I'm just acknowledging NT fans' assertion that the backtracking in DMC4 left a sour taste and that may have left some buyers predisposed to avoiding DmC.
what about other people who played it.
Selection bias.
Bill Rizer
Member
This was a work for (rip) Grin... Could've been the nextgen "Rearmed", now we can only wait and see.
Gameplay looks nice btw.
Gameplay looks nice btw.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That was post-Itagaki Team Ninja. Their track record has been less than impeccable.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
And Nintendo?
That's nice except Max isn't the only one hyped for it, nor was he the only one to give good impressions of the game. So all these people praising it are apparently wrong ( or paid off according to some) because seeing all these people say it's not shit makes hit harder to dismiss.
Some people liked it, some people thought it was OK and some didn't like it. This is the impression I got from GAFFERs who went to EVO and tried out the game.
Brilliant Disaster
Member
KI may turn out good, maybe. I am not holding my breath. Sure max says its good, but as he is getting more and more limelight i am not trusting his opinion. Pockets can be lined. As for fellow gaffers, hell it may be good, i still stand my by opinion though. My spidey sense is tingling.....no wait that is a mosquito bite. Damn Texas weather.