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Toonami |SepOct17| 1 + 1 = YEAH!
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JadedWriter
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I'd probably actually be the opposite, granted I've never watched Steven's Universe. The real world just isn't that positive and I'm all kinds of cynical.
eh... I only find R&M to be decent. To adult swim humory for me at times.
Yeah he's totally op with the smarts
YoodiHoshi
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Max Mittelman, or someone besides Vic I hope
JadedWriter
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Rick is like reverse Rusty Venture...though I do think Rick is actually more fucked up.
just understand the first 16 eps (10 min eps) or so of SU aren't great (but are needed) they aren't terrible either but not great, after that they get better, and then eps 25/26 are where you can ask yourself am I enjoying this series.
if the answer is yes, at least to some degree then you should finish season one (through episode 52) and if you aren't really feeling it at that point, run away, if you are you will likely enjoy the rest.
personally I find SU very comparable to Avatar the last airbender, in quality of story, cast, and even pacing.
the first season of both are more comedy focused than story focused but quickly shift towards a story focus near the end of season 1. SU then for some reason had its seasons split by cartoon network (but internally they still consider them just the 3 original seasons) so season 2/3 of SU is a lot of build up of characters and lore, and season 4/5 raises the stakes quite a bit.
I'd say avatar is still a bit better overall, but SU after those starting episodes is close in quality to me.
That...is an apt comparison.
I personally really enjoy a lot of the themes in the show.
There are strong pro LBGT themes in the show which is nice to see in a kids show, but there are various other very adult themes in the series. (I don't consider this a spoiler given it's basically a main theme of the show lol)
one example would be
two people in an abusive relationship and one of them figuring out in horror that she was enjoying abusing the other person.
That's messed up man
but at least she's trying to be better
I mean I could go into details but where is the fun in that.
despite 10 minute episodes the thing I listed is set up well in advance, and was a major character turning point.
but despite being a kids show the series does a crazy amount of world and character building.
I am trying to think about things, but I think basically every character that has been in at least 5 episodes has had at least one episode dedicated to character growth lol.
They're joking
I mean, I watched it more than a decade ago but even then I knew it was stupid
I totally forgot the movie had villains though, like, huh?
I watched review of it
But the villains iirc are doing the same thing as the heroes but they're doing it for the money and are dicks so they're the villains
No lies here
At least the same kinda fans
Probably add BB too
I actually think they're both worse in some different aspects. Rusty Venture is actually probably worse about how he treats those around him and when a Necromancer tells you you're doing some fucked up shit to your own kids then you know its bad.
Yeah the show does a really good job with both setting up characters over a long period of time
see Lars
see Lapis
Hellwarden
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Yeah, that's pretty spot on honestly.
JadedWriter
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See now...if Rick made that thing it would've worked. Also I completely forgot how shit of a dad Rusty was. I really need to do a rewatch, it's been years. Rusty doesn't exactly have the best dad to base everything off of either.
YoodiHoshi
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I watched it more than half a decade ago and even I don't recall a single villain type character
As for SU, a life mission I have is to watch the Garnet's Universe episode in Japanese some day
Jonas Venture might be one of the worst dads in fiction. Even Ging is more of a good dad than Jonas by a country mile. Some of the shit he did was basically just to torture his son in the most demeaning and public ways possible.
He was in Free as well.
Master Of Illusion
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Same boat. I'm more of a fan of the "Nobody hugs, nobody learns anything" approach.
My opinion: cynicism is pretty much a waste of time. The world is effectively neutral, and since being in a bad mood damages you through the effects it has on your mind and body, being cynical or pessimistic makes you unable to deal with real life.
So don't do it. It's a disease, and pretty irrational.
So don't do it. It's a disease, and pretty irrational.
Hellwarden
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Here is my issue I've been having with season 3 of Rick and Morty.
Every main member of the cast is awful. Genuinely awful. They're not flawed people, they're just terrible. Which could be fine. Hell, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is one of my favorite shows. The difference is, I feel Rick and Morty still wants us to care about the cast. The most recent episode had Beth
, and a few episodes back had
That dissonance is fine if you look at the show as a series of one offs. It's not really connected.
Every main member of the cast is awful. Genuinely awful. They're not flawed people, they're just terrible. Which could be fine. Hell, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is one of my favorite shows. The difference is, I feel Rick and Morty still wants us to care about the cast. The most recent episode had Beth
gleefully commit a murder
Beth commit a selfless act of pure love.
That dissonance is fine if you look at the show as a series of one offs. It's not really connected.
you don't need to rush there.
last I checked it had at least 2 more seasons confirmed.
the next one isn't rumored to come until next year, and if things follow the course the season after that will be about 5 years from now.
Pfft. Gendo is best dad.
Rick and Morty is full of terrible people who have flashes of being a good person and Steven Universe is full of good people who have things about them that are terrible sometimes
I mean it started airing 2003 and has a total episode count of 72 eps.
if you do go to watch it, avoid the pilot. its the first episode on netflix and I haven't a clue how the show got picked up from it. it's pure garbage but I am glad it got picked up because by the end of season 1 it becomes a great show.
He gives you money for beating people and animals up though
Though how he knows is another question
But he did nothing wrong
When it started airing I had just entered 4th grade. I'm a senior in college now and its still not complete
Hellwarden
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Group watch for Young Sheldon?
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