DenogginizerOS said:I have a Sony upscaler DVD player that upscales to 1080i quite nicely via HDMI. For the price and the money I am saving to buy games, the many movies I have in my DVD collection look absolutely great on my 30" Sony CRT.
JB1981 said:Also, if you guys want to see the wonders 1080p does for 1080i material, just check out an HD-DVD demo on a 1080p Westinghouse at Best Buy. The resolution is staggering.
DenogginizerOS said:Cool. HD-DVD via the X360 player component connection at 1080i on a 1080p tv should look staggering.
Nutter said:Why is this Monkey an SDF leader or something; creating all these threads about the 360? Dont you have anything better to do?
A transparent troll if i ever saw one.
JB1981 said:I'm sure it will.
krypt0nian said:Because he gets away with it.
krypt0nian said:Because he gets away with it.
what percentage of tvs in homes are even 720p/1080i ready?DenogginizerOS said:What percentage of tv's in homes and in stores are 1080p ready? How much more money will it cost me to purchase a great 1080i TV versus a great 1080p TV? What percentage of TV's have HDMI ports versus those with component only?
PM a Mod with this question.Moderation Unlimited said:The question is why. Why should he get away with it? Does he have some kind of insider connection or something. Cuz these threads are pretty annoying.
sugarhigh4242 said:question about the HD-DVD drive:
Will you be able to load Xbox360 games on DVD from the HD-DVD drive?
*raises hand*K_S said:How many on this board own, or will own a 1080p set within the next 2-3 years anyway?
he is very very careful. he keeps his inflammatory remarks to such things as open ended questions. he didn't say Microsoft lied, he just wondered if they were lying or not. he's damn good at keeping the right side of the line, which is the most impressive thing about his posts.Moderation Unlimited said:The question is why. Why should he get away with it? Does he have some kind of insider connection or something. Cuz these threads are pretty annoying.
mckmas8808 said:This thread is informative and dumb at the sametime.
StoOgE said:Wow, this certainly needed its own thread.
That way the SDF could be sure everyone saw how MS 'lied' to us and reasure themselves that the PS3 is the only true 4d system.
Or maybe MS could release an HDMI cable for the 360? Also, the DVI output on the 360 has been great since the Spring update. But dont let the truth get in your way. Sadly, my TV's DVI input is on the front of the TV so I wont use it as a permanent solution.. (I guess it makes sense for hooking a laptop up :x)
Unless you want to play games on your game console, than the 360 can do nicely. Or downloaded movies to the 360's HD, or movies streamed from you PC.
I dont know why I'm even arguing this, I dont care about 1080p, but some peoples "lomgic" is erally annoying.
mckmas8808 said:This thread is informative and dumb at the sametime.
no, and already answered in this thread I believe.RoH said:Question: if any one know or if you know. I have a VGA cable can I use a VGA, to DVI to HDMI converter? (Xbox Vga cable)---->(VGA to DVI converter)---->(DVI to HDIMI). Would that work?
Nerevar said:no, and already answered in this thread I believe.
no. i was pondering the same so i looked it up. DVI allows for analogue signals to be sent down the cable, which is what the VGA to DVI adapter does (presuming you aren't talking about something that costs hundreds of dollars). HDMI doesn't allow for analogue signals at all. so that won't work.RoH said:Question: if any one know or if you know. I have a VGA cable can I use a VGA, to DVI to HDMI converter? (Xbox Vga cable)---->(VGA to DVI converter)---->(DVI to HDIMI). Would that work?
plagiarize said:no. i was pondering the same so i looked it up. DVI allows for analogue signals to be sent down the cable, which is what the VGA to DVI adapter does (presuming you aren't talking about something that costs hundreds of dollars). HDMI doesn't allow for analogue signals at all. so that won't work.
Mrbob said:For all intents and purposes, you want 1080P you buy a PS3. Only way you will really get 1080P is via HDMI.
the vga cable comes with such an adapter doesn't it?RoH said:The thing is I have a DVI to HDMI adapter sitting right in front of me, with a DVI to VGA adapter attached to it. I'm just missing the female connector to attach the male xbox VGA adapter.
But i guess it has been tried and does not work... Alas I have saddened my self again...
Nerevar said:1080p won't be standard, anyone claiming it is either has an agenda or isn't really looking at the industry rationally.
yup, it comes with a gender changer..plagiarize said:the vga cable comes with such an adapter doesn't it?
plagiarize said:the vga cable comes with such an adapter doesn't it?
plagiarize said:no. i was pondering the same so i looked it up. DVI allows for analogue signals to be sent down the cable, which is what the VGA to DVI adapter does (presuming you aren't talking about something that costs hundreds of dollars). HDMI doesn't allow for analogue signals at all. so that won't work.
RoH said:Yeah but my buddy borrowed it for use with his monster cables on his his PC monitor (I use my big ass TV with a Female input), but he moved away and forgot to give it back. Oh yeah I for got to give him his HDMI VGA adapter thing.
I want to do this because my TV is 720 native and does not Upscale over VGA. And I can not go back to Component cables every thing looks blurry..
There's been a lot of talk about the problems associated with 1080p output over a component connection (because of digital rights management), and that on the Xbox 360 1080p would only be possible via VGA or an as yet unannounced HDMI connection for the console. However, an MS spokesperson told us today that 1080p can be done on either VGA or component, but that they haven't confirmed it will be done over a component connection. "More details will come on how we're outputting but it won't require HDMI," the rep said.
segasonic said:HD-DVD and BluRay are both 1080p, 1080p capable panels can display 1080i without a problem.
Consumers are obsessed with features and bullett points.
Conclusion: 1080p WILL be standard.
In 3-5 years. 720P has to become the standard first. Once it does they will move on o 1080P, forcing people to buy a new tv.snatches said:I don't think anyone will argue this. But when will this happen?
snatches said:I don't think anyone will argue this. But when will this happen?
segasonic said:HD-DVD and BluRay are both 1080p, 1080p capable panels can display 1080i without a problem.
Consumers are obsessed with features and bullett points.
Conclusion: 1080p WILL be standard.
if i had DVI i wouldn't need to go HDMI. i have a VGA in, but it's only set 4:3 resolutions that it accepts. you can buy VGA to component converters, but they're multiple hundreds for a decent one, and i could just get an upscaling DVD player for less. (since that's the only issue for me, my tv will make 1080i HD-DVD look awesome if i get the add on).arne said:mostly true.
DVI does allow analog signals to be sent down the cable.
however HDMI doesnt' allow for analog signals so you'd need a D -> A converter which I don't think exists.
HOWEVER, if your tv still has a DVI input and it supports HDCP (most newer DVI I believe) AND DVI-A -- you won't have to go to HDMI.
Sony Responds to Microsoft's HD Bid
"Nyah nyah!" noises heard across the playground.
by David Adams
September 21, 2006 - Recently Microsoft has not only begun to show off the HD-DVD peripheral for the Xbox 360, but the company announced that its new console will soon be updated, via software, to offer 1080p HD output.
Unsurprisingly, Sony, which will offer its own brand of high-def DVD media with the PlayStation 3's Blu-ray support, did not miss the opportunity to answer. For the sake of enjoying some good mud-slinging, here is Sony's comment.
"It's unfortunate that Microsoft's external HD-DVD drive will not enhance the experience at all for the gamer," commented Dave Karraker, senior director of Corporate Communications for Sony Computer Entertainment America. "Sony realizes that to truly take gaming into the next generation requires a larger data format for both games and movies. PS3 uses the Blu-ray format for gaming, giving developers 50 GB of high-definition storage on a single disc, while Microsoft's 9 GB DVD gaming format is an obstacle for storing HD content. Furthermore, Microsoft's announced HD games patch is really just a compatibility feature -- upscaling lower-resolution content does not make it Full HD (1080p), something that PS3 can do out of the box."
The PlayStation 3 reaches (and disappears from) store shelves on November 17. Microsoft's HD-DVD drive is slated to arrive later this year.
choc_cake said:Damage control for the XDF?
No, I would say for the SDF.
Notice how hard they are trying to justify a $600+ purchase?
:lol
Well instead of starting threads like this, maybe you will feel better tonight.
I am sure Sony won't shoot themselves in the foot again.
snatches said:I don't think anyone will argue this. But when will this happen?
PS3 uses the Blu-ray format for gaming, giving developers 50 GB of high-definition storage on a single disc, while Microsoft's 9 GB DVD gaming format is an obstacle for storing HD content.
monkeymagic said:Looks like you were right KLee - AACS is implemented NOW and there is no way MS can bypass that or CCA (for DVD) over component.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8478750&&#post8478750
It's a shame the VGA output on X360 is not up to par.
So were MS lying about 1080p over component or they just didn't know?
Maybe Stinkles or arne can fill us in.
Every developer uses compression, stop acting dumb.choc_cake said:So they never heard of compression? Worst case is that you would
have to put in two DVD 9 disks that would be cheaper than that of
one blu-ray disk.
VP of Digital Media at Microsoft Confirms NO 1080p HD-DVD or DVD over Component
JoJo13 said:Every developer uses compression, stop acting dumb.
i think it was that time when people found out the 2nd ps3 sku didnt have hdmi, then all the ps3/360 fanboys all started arguing for and against the technicalities of the issue...Onix said:When was this even in question?
Seriously ... I don't know how many times this has been gone over.