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Smash Bros. 3DS : Sakurai explains why the Circle Pad Pro isn't supported
- Thread starter L~A
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Well, Pokemon Trainer was also most likely cut due to the fact that switching characters is memory intensive. It's the reason Samus/ZSS and Zelda/Shiek were separated as well. Although, I'm pretty happy that they're their own characters now.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
They were basically porting down a WiiU game to the 3DS
MannyToons
Member
You also forgot about 30fps Assist Trophies, and no item frequency option. :B
Nintendo made the CPP use more CPU so that they could sell more new 3DSs.
Is C-Sticking that important? I don't watch a lot of competitive Smash, but the last time I heard of anything in regards to C-sticking, was Wave bouncing/B-Sticking in Brawl. Besides, I would imagine people would be used o doing smash attacks with the A and the control stick.
I didn't know how to do smash attacks in the original until I played Melee
Is the Wii U version going to have 60fps, pikmin and assist?
Is it true about the item frequency?
It's nice for retreating aerials on a lot of characters.
and only one pokemon/assist trophy at the same time... i think.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Yes to both
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
After looking at the videos they also did a lot of copy and pasting and makes me wonder if some things weren't change because the 3DS couldn't handle.
I mean if they're going to separate characters at least change a few things outside one move why give Sheik the exact same Final Smash as Zelda but change Zero Suit Seamus Final Smash or Ganondorf still being a C. Falcon clone with the exact same Final Smash.
Heck I wonder how much potential rooster was cut because the 3DS couldn't handle it since it would certainly explain why there was so many humanoid characters added to the roster (No Ridley...)
And suddenly I feel like I wish the 3DS version was never conceived...
Leafhopper
Banned
I can't tell if that's you or the Vita in your blood talking
.StreetsAhead
Member
That answer should be obvious.
Wouldn't that still require the processing power used to operate the CPP?
Huh?
There's no reason Ridley would be a more resource intensive character than others though so I doubt the 3DS is to blame for him not being playable.
Melee is literally "unplayable" without the C-Stick once you are used to using it. I dont even bother with single player mode anymore (obviously, i beat everything years and years before learning how to use the C-Stick properly) in melee (because the C-stick just changes the camera in that mode). And i am not a tournament player at all.
The C-Stick is just the "optimal" way of doing a decent amount of your moves. Once you learn it, there is no comming back.
Thanks for the confirmation. I am more excited about the Wii U version. I hope it has everything the 3ds one doesn't except characters obviously.
SerTapTap
Member
Isn't Amiibo just a memory card effectively? Dont' think it would need to communicate mid-combat.
It would, but in the case of the Amiibos, they wouldn't need to be constantly connected to the 3DS like the CPP would have to be.
Smash is probably the most technically impressive 3DS game. Can't think of anything else that looks as good on 3DS save for Monster Hunter.
I thought it was in the game... I thought it was one of the first confirmed trophies in that ESRB leak.
SirPainsalot
Banned
Not to be rude or OT here, but don't you make the exact same posts in every 3DS thread?
Zenaku
Member
I can understand it being removed from localized versions, but the leaked images seemed perfectly fine for the Japanese release. If ESRB are responsible for its removal, on top of the roster leaks, I`ll probably be changing my stance towards worldwide releases in future.
It was in the leak but not in the retail game.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Booty too strong
Nope. Probably less than 0.5% of 3DS threads (the ones pertaining to hardware limitations).
This is why I hate Nintendo having a dedicated handheld monopoly. Their hardware is gimped to the point where it actually affects game design. It's so frustrating to know how much better handheld hardware could be nowadays.
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
Yes, having a character retain their old moves in a sequel to a fighting game is such a new and odd concept...And Ridley is a humanoid character...
uncredited male
Member
Called it.
Sakurai mentioned in the past that the CCP is demanding when discussing KI:U so this should surprise no one. The left stick is actually disabled in KI:U when a CCP is used, it is just for left-handed control options.
Sakurai mentioned in the past that the CCP is demanding when discussing KI:U so this should surprise no one. The left stick is actually disabled in KI:U when a CCP is used, it is just for left-handed control options.
But it's a Nintendo game, and I don't think Nintendo is one to be forced into higher specs whether a competitor is successful with that route or not. It's not like Nintendo hasn't had it's share of more technically impressive handheld competitors.
Well, look on the bright side. Smartphones are gonna eat that monopoly away.
...and then we'll have game designed gimped by input methods.
I guess that's also the unbright side...
Because nobody cares!
3DS games are already gimped by input methods.
Polioliolio
Member
For better or worse, no WaddleDees for King Dedede, Reduced Olimar
As long as it all feels right or better in the Wiiu version, and parity doesn't demand a single assist/pokemon at a time, then we're good.
ratcliffja
Member
I think that's a RAM issue rather than a CPU issue. As I recall, you can borrow from the OS reserved RAM, but you'll need to restore it once the home button is pressed.
I don't even think the thing works anymore. "Support for this software dropped after Pokémon Tretta moved to the X & Y series in March 2014."
Leafhopper
Banned
Considering the demo requires basically a soft reset when you exit, this doesn't surprise me
I was wondering that as well considering the CPP would be used as a c-stick instead of an alternate Circle Pad
I was wondering that as well considering the CPP would be used as a c-stick instead of an alternate Circle Pad
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I'd rather they just built a GameCube controller adapter for the 3DS, BUT if processing power is the problem with peripherals then I guess that's just a pipedream.