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AMC's Preacher adaptation ordered to series; premieres Sunday, May 22nd

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A couple of critic reactions after the pilot screening last night. They're embargoed, so most thoughts are deliberately vague.
Sepinwall said:
Preacher pilot deviates WILDLY from the comics, but still has the spirit of the thing. Intrigued. Want to see more. Ruth Negga's great.

Despite Preacher plot deviations, critics who knew the comic had a much easier time following pilot; others seem baffled by a lot of it.
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Fienberg said:
AMC's "Preacher" pilot is jangly, messy, pulpy, rude, profane, uneven and occasionally nonsensical. Which is what I reckon was intended.
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Eric Goldman said:
Loved the #Preacher pilot! So great and nails the tone/feel from the comic. Psyched to see more! #TCA16
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John Doyle said:
Was at screening of @AMC_TV's #Preacher. Reviews embargoed, but...the Irish thing..phew. Meet me on the corner for a chinwag.
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Cornballer said:
A couple of critic reactions after the pilot screening last night. They're embargoed, so most thoughts are deliberately vague.
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Nah no thanks.


How is it that Rogan states, OMG I AM THE BIGGEST PREACHER FAN, and then deviates from the source material? Why even name it Preacher? I do not understand this at all. This, like most before it, will have the hardcore Preacher fans hate it.
 
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MichaelFassbender

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Every time I see this brought up, I send a few prayers to Satan that no network ever touches The Boys. Go ahead, fuck up Preacher, but don't touch Ennis' masterpiece.
 
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Con_Smith

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Bunch of debbie downers. I will remain hopeful for one of the few series I actually followed from beginning to end comic wise.
 
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Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
MichaelFassbender said:
Every time I see this brought up, I send a few prayers to Satan that no network ever touches The Boys. Go ahead, fuck up Preacher, but don't touch Ennis' masterpiece.
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"Let's make Billy Butcher American!", and it's failed already

these reactions are vague indeed but, like The Bastard Executioner, it's gonna be a trainwreck worth witnessing
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Have they even said if the Saint of Killers is in the adaptation? I've seen no mention of him, no casting, no rumors, nothing. Seems odd for a character who is in it from the beginning and important to the overall plot.
 
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Morrigan Stark

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HStallion said:
Have they even said if the Saint of Killers is in the adaptation? I've seen no mention of him, no casting, no rumors, nothing. Seems odd for a character who is in it from the beginning and important to the overall plot.
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Fuck, you're right. If they cut out the best character.... ugh.
 
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RatskyWatsky

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Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg and Sam Catlin, who developed the series for an AMC drama, say their main priority is to strike a perfect balance between keeping the comic book fans excited while also creating great TV for viewers who have never heard of “Preacher.”

“We’re fans of the comic. We love the comic. And we’re going to make a show that we like, so we hope that translates to people that love the comics, as well,” Rogen said Friday at the Television Critics Association press tour in Pasadena, Calif., on a panel for the upcoming series. “But first and foremost, our goal is to make a great television show.”
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As for how similar the show will be to the comics, which were created by Garth Ennis for DC Comics’ Vertigo imprint, Goldberg said there will be some differences — which were welcomed. “Garth very much encouraged us to make a lot of small changes,” he said.

On that same note, Rogen chimed in, saying that the slight changes should prove to be beneficial. “I don’t know if you could translate the comics directly to television — everyone involved thought we should not do that directly, including Garth — but we love the comic. There’s tons of stuff from the comic that we hope to include.”
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RatskyWatsky

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Sepinwall - Seth Rogen's 'Preacher' will be different from the comics, and that's okay

Thursday night, AMC screened the first episode of "Preacher," based on the iconic '90s Vertigo comic — a thrilling, disgusting mash-up of action, horror, spirituality, and the films of John Ford — which will debut in late spring. Reviews are embargoed til closer to the premiere, but I can say the following things:

1)I laughed a lot, was very intrigued, and really want to see more;

2)While some characters (Tulip in particular) are perfect renditions of what we know from the comics, large swaths of the premiere (and what it seems to be setting up for the first season) barely resemble Garth Ennis's story from the comics;

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3)I think that's exactly what Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg, and Sam Catlin should have done, even if it's going to anger a lot of hardcore "Preacher" fans.
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Much more at the link.
 
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HStallion

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Once again I'm going to ask, have they even bothered to include the Saint of Killers in this show as I've seen absolutely nothing on him. Not even fucking rumors about his casting.

He was seriously one of the best parts of the story, not that there weren't a ton of great characters but he dominated many of the scenes he was in for good reason and had some of the best moments of the entire series.

I mean come on, everyone who has read Preacher is waiting for this line,"Not enough gun!"
 
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Houndi101

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Sinatar said:
Quincannon in season 1?

What is this show doing?
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This,

then again they already showeds Cassidys normal eyes etc. so I'm not expecting strickt following of the source material sadly

Also looks wise we already had perfect Jesse and Tulip in Wild at Heart

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probably the other way around
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
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I'm still thinking Saint awakening will be Season 1 cliffhanger
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Well that's dumb but the decisions around this don't surprise me at all. Rogan and crew can tell me how they are all super fans all day long but the work doesn't seem to reflect that at all.
 
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Mac the KNife

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HStallion said:
Well that's dumb but the decisions around this don't surprise me at all. Rogan and crew can tell me how they are all super fans all day long but the work doesn't seem to reflect that at all.
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The practical realities of television production and the audience that goes with that medium require that changes be made to the source material for the adaptation. Half of the Preacher comic series is talking heads, the other half is blockbuster-type action, all in a myriad of locations around America and abroad. There's no way any production would able to accommodate all of that in an episodic series.

Rogan and crew aren't making these changes to piss off fans of the series, they're making them because they have to. If the final product is both recognizable to the source material and of good quality, they've done their jobs as fans and creators.
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Mac the KNife said:
The practical realities of television production and the audience that goes with that medium require that changes be made to the source material for the adaptation. Half of the Preacher comic series is talking heads, the other half is blockbuster-type action, all in a myriad of locations around America and abroad. There's no way any production would able to accommodate all of that in an episodic series.

Rogan and crew aren't making these changes to piss off fans of the series, they're making them because they have to. If the final product is both recognizable to the source material and of good quality, they've done their jobs as fans and creators.
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I'd rather no adaptation at all if we are going to get a half assed version. I've seen tons of shows with giant productions spanning the globe from black sails to game of thrones to Marco Polo. It's not uncommon for large scale tv productions the rival movies these days so changing things to make it work on TV doesn't seem like a great reason.

I'm seeing this as another Zach Snyder Watchmen. A group of people gushing about their love and respect for a respected work of fiction yet seem to understand little about it except for surface details. Then they start making huge alterations to the story characters etc. But don't have near the writing talent of the original author.

I'm fine with changes that are well handled and smart but a lot of this is seeming arbitrary.
 
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Morrigan Stark

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Yeah, I'm with HStallion, as in, I'm still really skeptical.

I get that they need to change the format and can't adapt it directly, but that doesn't mean I trust Rogen to get it right at all. I'll still give it a chance, though. Who knows, it could surprise me.
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
So do Cassidy and Jesse happen to go the same barber or something? Bringing back the High Top Fade with Jesse especially haha.

Everything I read and hear about this adaptation kills a little more excitement I had for this. I'm just hoping its not a complete turd at this point.
 
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Parch

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Dabanton said:
A no holds barred version of The Boys on Netflix or HBO would be too damn good.
Paired with the right creative team of course.
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Give it a couple of more years until there's a big enough audience completely sick of superhero movies and shows and The Boys will be a huge hit.
 
JeTmAn81

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Those stills look pretty good. The other news that's been coming out about the source changes is not so good.
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
JeTmAn81 said:
Those stills look pretty good. The other news that's been coming out about the source changes is not so good.
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I still dont care for the fact that Cassidy isn't wearing sunglasses from the start. It went well with the whole "vampire" thing but the reveal of why he really wears them I thought was a pretty good moment for the story and just reveals a bit more about his truly fucked up past.
 
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- EW: AMC's Preacher to premiere after Walking Dead finale
AMC’s Preacher has a premiere date: The supernatural dark comedy will debut right after the season finale of The Walking Dead.

Preacher will debut Sunday, May 22 at 10 p.m. with the climatic episode of TV’s highest-rated drama series as its opening act. The drama, based on 1990s comic series, is from executive producers Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg and Sam Caitlin and stars Dominic Cooper, Joseph Gilgun and Ruth Negga. Preacher follows the adventures of a West Texas preacher with a mysterious power and there’s 10 episodes in the first season.

Attendees of the South by Southwest festival will get to see the pilot early – today, in fact – at a premiere screening at the Paramount Theater.
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RatskyWatsky

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Cornballer said:
- EW: AMC's Preacher to premiere after Walking Dead finale
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(The finale of The Walking Dead airs April 3. The mid season finale of Fear the Walking Dead airs May 22. Get it right Entertainment Weekly!)

Also, something I thought was strange:

After encoring the pilot twice on Sunday, May 29 (during Memorial Day weekend), new episodes will resume Sunday, June 5 at 9 pm (its regular time slot).
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So, week 1 - series premiere; week 2 - encore of premiere; week 3 - episode 2. I guess that's one way to do it!
 
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Breads

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I have been wanting to see a Preacher adaptation for years and years. I was hoping for an HBO or Netflix show and after hits like Breaking Bad and Walking Dead on AMC I hoped for good things with this Preacher adaptation.

And I still am excited... it's just now it's tempered with the expectations that a lot of things have to change in order for the show to be feasible.

Going forward I have no idea what they're going to leave in, change, or take out entirely.

Will there be
angels, demons, genesis, and an absentee god? What about Saint of Killers, hell, heaven, and John Wayne? What about The Grail, fat pope, Herr Starr, and Bill Hicks?
Anything resembling Preacher I have internalized has just as much of a chance being in the TV adaptation as it has having to be rewritten. I probably shouldn't care as much as I do - all adaptations go through this. It's just that this one in particular is something I've been pining for and now that I'm over the simple fact that it actually exists I worry if my wait has colored my expectations of what it can reasonably deliver.
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Breads said:
I have been wanting to see a Preacher adaptation for years and years. I was hoping for an HBO or Netflix show and after hits like Breaking Bad and Walking Dead on AMC I hoped for good things with this Preacher adaptation.

And I still am excited... it's just now it's tempered with the expectations that a lot of things have to change in order for the show to be feasible.

Going forward I have no idea what they're going to leave in, change, or take out entirely.

Will there be
angels, demons, genesis, and an absentee god? What about Saint of Killers, hell, heaven, and John Wayne? What about The Grail, fat pope, Herr Starr, and Bill Hicks?
Anything resembling Preacher I have internalized has just as much of a chance being in the TV adaptation as it has having to be rewritten. I probably shouldn't care as much as I do - all adaptations go through this. It's just that this one in particular is something I've been pining for and now that I'm over the simple fact that it actually exists I worry if my wait has colored my expectations of what it can reasonably deliver.
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The early previews sound more accurate to the comic than Lucifer on Fox was to its source material but that isn't saying a lot what so ever. I'm just hoping it's not a total turd and can be even just slightly as scathing and over the top as the comic.
 
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RatskyWatsky

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'Preacher’ At SXSW: Bloody, Violent & Hilarious Series Could Be AMC’s Next ‘Walking Dead’

Anyone doubting that the seminal 1990s comic series Preacher could be successfully translated for television may consider their concerns moot. The pilot episode of the upcoming AMC series based on Garth Ennis’ lengthy, insane look at American culture that premiered today during SXSW turns out to be a textbook example of understanding the difference between the letter and the spirit of the law.

Directed by Rogen and Goldberg and written by Catlin, the pilot feels like the serious successor to Rogen and Goldberg’s earlier This Is The End, and fans of the comic will be very happy at how it balances that series’ intense, loopy insanity.
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I wasn’t the only one floored: I’ve written a lot this week about the rapturous receptions given to the films I’ve seen, but Preacher is the first time I can honestly report the mood from the crowd was for all intents and purposes unanimous. The theater was absolutely packed (I had to stand in the back) and remained so after the screening ended and the audience Q&A began. If AMC execs were paying attention, they’re probably drooling over the prospect of a potential Walking Dead-sized hit on their hands when the series debuts May 22.
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KonradLaw

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RatskyWatsky said:
'Preacher’ At SXSW: Bloody, Violent & Hilarious Series Could Be AMC’s Next ‘Walking Dead’
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Sounds great. I like those type of adaptations the best. Straight bit by bit adaptations end up being useless to me, since I've already went through the story earlier. So to see it once again without big changes is pretty boring. On the other hand I liked the original story for a reason and don't want to see something completely different. So an adaptation that's faithful in spirit, but not in letter is my favorite kind.
 
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