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[Virex]

Well I was just banned on Resetera before I even had a chance to participate in the discussion. I glad to see my account is still here and I remembered my password.

Please stay there

 

[Helios]

Please stay there

???

 

[7upguy]

Please stay there

Why? I glad to be back on a forum that allows discussion and sharing of different opinions.

 

[Starfield]

I just don't get ResetEra.

You would think that this forum would be a place where you can talk about videogames in a civil manner where everyone can voice his opinions but all I see there is hate and nothing else.


It's not wrong to be left or right, but what they are doing over there is some nsdap type shit. Like ho le shit, if you ever EVER have a different opinion there watch out for your ass cuz they coming for you.

 

[bilderberg]

Friends I present to you the Resetera concept map:

I honestly doubt that any thread past 5 posts make it without one of those examples.

and bingo charts!

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I just don't get ResetEra.

You would think that this forum would be a place where you can talk about videogames in a civil manner where everyone can voice his opinions but all I see there is hate and nothing else.


It's not wrong to be left or right, but what they are doing over there is some nsdap type shit. Like ho le shit, if you ever EVER have a different opinion there watch out for your ass cuz they coming for you.

It's a weird forum.

There's so much moderation and bannings you'd think people would tone it down or face ban hammers. But it seems many gamers don't care.

 

[Starfield]

It's a weird forum.

There's so much moderation and bannings you'd think people would tone it down or face ban hammers. But it seems many gamers don't care.

It's really a shame because all these people used to be here and I used to like this forum back in the days but now it got even better after the great divide happened.


But this isn't a ResetEra only problem it already manifested into our modern society and I fear that the stronger one side grows the likelier a certain balance shift has to happen in the near future.


The future is not gonna be a bright one.


but thats way too offtopic now

 

[Punished Miku]

Why? I glad to be back on a forum that allows discussion and sharing of different opinions.

No idea what his problem is. Tons of people have been banned at REEra and then come back here and appreciated it more. There's dedicated threads to complain about it and lost of people do. Guy just wanted to be rude for no reason.

 

[Zabby]

If it was all black and white and all we did was ban the bad guys, few people would have a problem with it. I just don't think it's even close to that, and it never will be.

Smart laws take into account that people aren't perfect, and power corrupts. If you give people the power to start controlling what you think and say, it will get worse for you because that's how people are. That's why free speech advocates defend people they DISAGREE with. The content that is taboo always changes.

Smart laws should also take into account when dangerous individuals with a powerful rethoric start spreading a message of hate that can be seen as an easy fix by an ignorant, uneducated majority.

“Germany’s economic issues? Let’s blame the jews!” would be defended by free speech. When the discourse then becomes “Let’s kill all the jews” it would be too damn late. Power and hate are an avalanche if not put under control.
The first amendment is trash and thank god companies are taking into their own morals to ban these monsters.

 

[anthraticus]

Why does he even bother with those wackos ?

 

[kevm3]

I'm glad resetera exists so the new age communists can congregate over there instead of coming here and crying for contrary opinions to be banned

 

[prag16]

And that’s why Jaffe is not deplatformed.
Actual hate speech is.

Your apparent point of view on free speech is dangerous. What is this, Soviet Russia? North Korea?

And who do you propose enforces this? Governments? Can't you see the problem here?

 

[Senhua]

I never see one from another gaming forum or social media actually praise them. Reddit, 4chan, gamefaq, twitter, youtuber, twitch users all of them always condemn them.
The forum admin never care about the gamer opinion as individual, always about the money from advertising click and how to lick an a**holes of the (leftist) gaming company so they will actively appear as a member there.

 

[Mattyp]

and bingo charts!

 

[Dirk Benedict]

and bingo charts!

This is scarily comprehensive. Also... if I didn't visit the site regularly, I'd not know what the fuck any of this meant, but since I do, I understand it 1000%.

 

[haxan7]

I'm gonna have good, colorful dreams tonight.

 

[Zabby]

Your apparent point of view on free speech is dangerous. What is this, Soviet Russia? North Korea?

And who do you propose enforces this? Governments? Can't you see the problem here?

Read my last post. There’s a problem there too.

 

[LordPezix]

I always feel I am on the outside of these things, I never know what is going on in the "inner" culture.

But then again, gaming is a hobby for me not an eternal aspect of my life. I gotta say though, the way some people go on threads, living in my little peaceful bubble is nice.

 

[LordRaptor]

I think deplatforming makes that kind of stuff worse as it just drives people to like-minded echo chambers where they get further radicalized by even worse people and are never presented with counter arguments or called out on their bullshit.

Yeah.
You can't change minds with anything other than ideas.
If you try and make certain ideas verboten or stop people saying them, they gain an edgy "the TRUTH that THEY don't WANT you to hear!" aspect.

You have the entirety of human history to look at any number of repressive regimes that have tried to stifle an idea by force.
All of those ideas still exist, but those regimes are long gone. You end up with martyrs to causes.

 

[Kagey K]

I think the problem nowadays is that everything is taken too far.

Even if I agree with many of the issues that are out there that need to be fixed, as soon as you concede more needs to be done. They pull further and harder until it gets to a point where it becomes cartoonish.

It’s the whole if you give an inch, they take a mile paradigm and it’s gotten out of control on the left and the right.

Why can’t we just be decent people looking out for each other, while also trying to make a better life for ourselves?

If I can help you I will, if you can help me I would hope you would. After that we just go about our day, like normal fucking people.

It’s insane how fucked some of this shit has gotten now.

 

[Gormenghast]

It's a weird forum.

There's so much moderation and bannings you'd think people would tone it down or face ban hammers. But it seems many gamers don't care.

It's more a case that the moderation is so random that you cannot even properly follow the rules you're supposed to respect. It's all at the whim of the moderator who's reading, sometimes many, many hours later so that most people don't even notice it's happening.

It's not really a place to open discussions, it's more like a community. Since there isn't a way to define a community, as everyone can eventually register and log in, they use moderators and bans as ways to draw those lines and uniform those that participate.

They essentially use controversial topics as a free for all (moderators) to snipe at whoever doesn't align to a particular stance or just rubs a moderator the wrong way. In many cases those moderators completely misunderstand what's written, but there doesn't seem to be anyone who double checks or cares.

It also seems a recent thing. Only in the last few months the moderation over there has taken a sharp and sudden nosedive.

 

[Xiaoki]

As I said before one of the most disgusting trait of SJW's (in this case ERA cause they love to projecting their virtue everywhere) is us or them mentality. If you dissagree with them, you will be labeled as :
- incel
- bigot
- misogyny
- "insert another SJW's bingo card"

Yeah, they should be more like NewGAF where we label people that we disagree with as:
- cucks
- NPCs
- SJWs

Oh, wait, labeling people you dont like or disagree with derogatory titles? Why, thats the exact same thing that ResetEra does. How can that be?!

 

[nkarafo]

The problem here is that, for some reason, people still care about what resetera has to say. Just ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist. It's a cesspool of morons, why do you need to prove anything to them? I wouldn't care what they think of me in the slightest. Heck, if they don't hate you it must mean you are doing something wrong in your life.

 

[Helios]

Yeah, they should be more like NewGAF where we label people that we disagree with as:
- cucks
- NPCs
- SJWs

Oh, wait, labeling people you dont like or disagree with derogatory titles? Why, thats the exact same thing that ResetEra does. How can that be?!

Give me a PM when you get banned for being a cuck.

 

[nkarafo]

Why? I glad to be back on a forum that allows discussion and sharing of different opinions.

Im glad for it too. But i'm just curious, did you care about "discussion and sharing of different opinions" before you got banned? Was it OK for you to see others get banned for those values you speak of? Or is it that you only realized "discussion and sharing of different opinions" don't exist in that forum only after you got banned?

 

[Hoya Destroyer]

Cant win an argument? Make sure the other guy cant speak. Thats how SJW's do it.

 

[nkarafo]

Yeah, they should be more like NewGAF where we label people that we disagree with as:
- cucks
- NPCs
- SJWs

Oh, wait, labeling people you dont like or disagree with derogatory titles? Why, thats the exact same thing that ResetEra does. How can that be?!

At least in GAF, said NPCs, cucks and SJWs can express their opinions and be part of any discussion.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Soyboy paradise that resetera place. If there is one place that game devs shouldn't be concerned about, it's that restra dwelling.

Dice pandering to Resetera politics, surprised when game tanks and they start giving away free codes on twitter. Those kind of people are not the people that buy these games.

 

[Kagey K]

I wish the member he challenged would have phoned in for the debate. If that person was so true to their guns, they would have gone there and defended what they said.

 

[Senhua]

Yeah, they should be more like NewGAF where we label people that we disagree with as:
- cucks
- NPCs
- SJWs

Oh, wait, labeling people you dont like or disagree with derogatory titles? Why, thats the exact same thing that ResetEra does. How can that be?!

show me a proff when I or someone in this forum insta labeling people who do not agree with mine/their as an SJW?
I only call some SJW when they deserve to be called upon, not just easily throw the accusation to random people just because one of their post cited disagreement, before even starting to further discuss/screening their opinion/issue like that twitter post for example or like ERA when their poll about "do you agree bayonetta nude transformation should be scrapped" only have 2 options :
1. yes
2. no because I am degenerate

 

[nkarafo]

Be careful. My wife got banned on reset era for just aggreeing with him.happened a few hours ago

Be careful of what?

 

[Freeman76]

He is spot on, but they wont listen, Era is ignorance personified in a group. PT is a pointless fool with his ramblings, Jaffe calling him out is like a wolf expecting a decent fight with a muskrat.

 

[Chairman Tickles]

How refreshing. Of course, nothing he said will even register with those people.

Oh, it will register in the sense that they will now actively go after him until he is de-platformed/loses his job. Just watch. He must never apologize.

 

[ShadowhunterrNL]

I think resetera is funny. Hate nazi's and alt-right, but uses the tactics of Nazi's to shot down other way of thinking.

Too behonest at this moment the world is getting scary. I all sorts of ways.

 

[Jesus Carbomb]

"I shot their fucking mother and fucked her goddamn corpse" -David Jaffe

 

[danielberg]

 

[Orpheum]

Preach.

ResetEra is garbage. reading some threads in the last couple of days, the place has become such a toxic and hypocritical ground, it's embarassing

 

[Spukc]

"I shot their fucking mother and fucked her goddamn corpse" -David Jaffe

one could sell a tshirt with that text and actually make money

 

[El_Belmondo]

Yeah.
You can't change minds with anything other than ideas.
If you try and make certain ideas verboten or stop people saying them, they gain an edgy "the TRUTH that THEY don't WANT you to hear!" aspect.

You have the entirety of human history to look at any number of repressive regimes that have tried to stifle an idea by force.
All of those ideas still exist, but those regimes are long gone. You end up with martyrs to causes.

No, dude. Deplatforming is real and has a real, palpable effect in the expansion and rooting on ideas. We have recent proof here in Spain

Few years ago, a left-wing political party called Podemos ("We can") was created over here after a series of protests and a douche politic saying Protests won't take them anywhere, if they want to change something, why don't they create a political party?. Well, they did, and Podemos was born

But Podemos' ideas were... dangerous. You know, it's been a GOOD while since politics over here looked at something that wasn't their own asses and Podemos was looking to the people first. Both right and left wingers parties started to pile up on Podemos, and after a while, a deplatforming proccess started. Podemos, who was seen as the third political force along with PP and PSOE back then, is today irrelevant.

On the other side we have VOX, a true alt-right political party that was a complete nobody, with ideas that wouldn't fly over there since they are eerily similar to franquism, that started to get traction by associating themselves with Ciudadanos (another far-right party) and becoming a meme themselves. Their leader, a walking meme, started to get called to TV, and to get interviews, and he was freely allowed to spew his bullshit on TV. One year later, the autonomical elections came for Andalusia, and Vox has got 12 seats on the congress right out of the bat.

So yeah, both giving voice and deplatforming works, and Yannopoulos is one of those dangerous beings that need to be deplatformed because his ideas are pure hate speech. And believe me, as someone living in a country that less than 50 years ago got out of a dictatorship based on hate speech, you guys don't want that.

 

[danielberg]

Yannopoulos is one of those dangerous beings that need to be deplatformed because his ideas are pure hate speech.

You are delusional he doesnt even reach the level of your average radical islamist courted and supported by leftwingers he is at best a troll.

 

[Jesus Carbomb]

one could sell a tshirt with that text and actually make money

I know right? I dunno how Jaffe would feel about it but I'd wear it. Just tell me where I can preorder.

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

I was banned in that thread for calling out someone for being a complete prick to another poster. I was banned for "attacking another user" and "trolling". I did neither.

My real crime was partially agreeing with Jaffe.

Shout out to Era mods! Bunch of corrupt cowards running the show over there. Too bad they don't see yet that they're running it straight into the ground.

 

[El_Belmondo]

You are delusional he doesnt even reach the level of your average radical islamist courted and supported by leftwingers he is at best a troll.

There's two things i don't understand about your post:

1st, the insults. I didn't insult anyone

2nd, the unnecessary mention of islamism. Christianism has its own monsters, dude.

 

[Xenon]

Great statement but it's funny seeing people surprised when they end up in the cross hairs of these guys as if this shit hasn't been going on for years.

 

[danielberg]

There's two things i don't understand about your post:

1st, the insults. I didn't insult anyone

2nd, the unnecessary mention of islamism. Christianism has its own monsters, dude.

Dude the things i dont understand about you is that you are calling for banning someone you obviously only know from by what you hear other people say about him, he is a troll he cant even go two sentences without mentioning how much he loves to take it up his ass and the other sentence is basically shitting on the typical blue haired third wave feminist archetype.
If that is your definition of hates speech and that someone should get banned for it than you are delusional as a matter of fact, i mention Islamist as direct comparison because the left naively and routinely courts these kinda people who are never mentioned when the left talks about their own defined "hate speech" and banning people until its too late as now with linda sarsour.
This is really off topic so its my last word on it agree to disagree or via pm.

 

[Shin]

That's what you get for hanging around shitera...
Here on GAF Jaffe could have his opinion and he was just one of us, there you can't have jackshit as everyone knows it all and only can hear themselves or want to.

 

[Airola]

I just hate that the term social justice warrior has became a negative as it should just imply people with a lot of passion toward fighting for equality and equal rights for all. And not just forum losers who pretend to do it by being holier than thou assholes online and really just insulting others and virtue signalling to make themselves feel better and to fit in with their cult online.

This is the truth. Well put, sir.

EDIT:
I have agreed with a lot of what these "SJWs" say in my past and I agree with a lot what they say now. Back in the day, while not knowing a term "toxic masculinity", I understood that there's something wrong with women being chastised from having sexual relations and men being applauded for it, and that there is something wrong when people think men shouldn't cry or show emotions.
I understood that bullying isn't nice. I understood it's not nice to insult people because of their appearance, weight and whatever else.

But the thing that both worries and disgusts me is how these things have become things for moral posturing. People think that if you do some of these bad things, you are a bad person. in fact, an EVIL person. And they think if they actively speak against those things they are seen as good persons. Morally in the right. "In the right side of history." And people think they have to cut ties with the people that do these wrong things. They want to make these things illegal. They want to be able to "stone" the people who do these things.

The reality is that every single one of us is a shithead in some way or another. It's the self-righteous bullshit that's wrong with all of this. Ideals are good, but when ideals become things you use to make judgments about others and shine your own appearance with zero self-awareness then you are causing nothing but trouble at the cost of actual justice.

 

[Ogbert]

It’s very easy to overestimate the likes of Resetera. It gives the impression of a *movement*.

In reality, it’s the same 50 or so boring, monothematic weirdos shouting at one another. Phantom Thief, the originator of this debacle, is a pitiful saddo with tens of thousands of posts to his name in a matter of months.

If you met these people in real life you would pity them.

 

[El_Belmondo]

Dude the things i dont understand about you is that you are calling for banning someone you obviously only know from by what you hear other people say about him, he is a troll he cant even go two sentences without mentioning how much he loves to take it up his ass and the other sentence is basically shitting on the typical blue haired third wave feminist archetype.
If that is your definition of hates speech and that someone should get banned for it than you are delusional as a matter of fact, i mention Islamist as direct comparison because the left naively and routinely courts these kinda people who are never mentioned when the left talks about their own defined "hate speech" and banning people until its too late as now with linda sarsour.
This is really off topic so its my last word on it agree to disagree or via pm.

Nah, I'm on a short holiday and really relaxed right now. Not in the mood to argue.

I just agree to disagree

 

[Neon Noire]

ITT impotent rage and that thing conservatives do when they try to disguise the fact they're upset with smugness