Plus they weren't expected to get any since they weren't the favorites. We have no idea what the others got. It was just a part of the movie that showed that it was a popularity contest, so it along with the cameras and the pre-games show all reflect that there is a need to play to the audience.
The movie exceeded my expectations (thanks to GAF). It was as good as some of the HP films. The only time I hated the shaky cams was during
the bloodbath. I wanted to see it better; fucking PG-13.
I thought it portrayed the survival tactics and alliances well. My least favorite aspect would be the ending.
I almost raged they almost killed themselves a la Romeo and Juliet because it's too cliche and would ruin the series. But the alternative is barely any better. I wish Katniss just killed Peeta and ended in love with that other guy.
yeah, in the book she can barely move with the burn, and spends a lot of time treating it. in the movie she's just up and running (which i'm sure could happen with adrenaline in your system like that) and it diminishes the seriousness of her injury.
yeah, in the book she can barely move with the burn, and spends a lot of time treating it. in the movie she's just up and running (which i'm sure could happen with adrenaline in your system like that) and it diminishes the seriousness of her injury.
by the time she finds water; right at the start of the game; she was almost dead. I can understand why they changed it; going right into the game and starting it by having her go all dehydrated and dying would not be interesting to watch
That would mean they weren't pointless.
Plus they weren't expected to get any since they weren't the favorites. We have no idea what the others got. It was just a part of the movie that showed that it was a popularity contest, so it along with the cameras and the pre-games show all reflect that there is a need to play to the audience.
I actually forgot about it at first, but don't they say in the book that the reason Katniss got the highest score was to make her a target (and that she's so good she won't need sponsors kind of thing)? Because she pulled the stunt with the apple?
Finally got to see this today--enjoyed it quite a bit. I also did wind up distracted during the 'finale' watching to see
where the two extra dogs came from, and it looked to me like they came out of the ground running. Not portrayed terribly well, so I can see where people would think they just materialized, but I do think they're shown emerging from the ground and not just phasing in to being. I also feel like the camera-in-the-tree bit was establishing the trees were all wired up, so the engineered forest fire and fireballs didn't feel totally out of place.
I really liked the commentators-as-explainers-of-things conceit, and am fairly happy with all the casting. Peeta's acting was the weak point for me--I think he nailed the interview scene, but wasn't really buying him during the whole
cave sequence.
I'm curious to find out how much cut footage there is--It'd be interesting to find out how much 'missing' information wasn't in the script, vs how much might have been sacrificed to keep the runtime down.
Mostly it got me hyped for the second movie, since I still think that's going to be the highpoint of the series.
I actually forgot about it at first, but don't they say in the book that the reason Katniss got the highest score was to make her a target (and that she's so good she won't need sponsors kind of thing)? Because she pulled the stunt with the apple?
I actually forgot about it at first, but don't they say in the book that the reason Katniss got the highest score was to make her a target (and that she's so good she won't need sponsors kind of thing)? Because she pulled the stunt with the apple?
I saw the film today and thought it was superior to the book in many ways.
1. No crappy/stupid "muttations" garbage at the end. So glad they just made them mutant dogs and didn't try to get into the dogs actually being the already-defeated tributes.
2. More believable relationship development between Peeta and Katniss. In the book, I just cringed most of the time, but here you could actually see the fake/real aspect of their relationship in its complexities, and I like how they didn't have "the talk" at the end, like they did in the book.
3. Better world building and sense of scale of the games, and the Capitol in particular. I thought the world building and mythology in the first book was pretty thin. It was better fleshed out in the movie.
Of course, the book did some things better (Gale's personality seemed colder to me in the book, and I preferred that, and the survival aspect was more played up int he book), but overall, I actually enjoyed the movie more than the book. It didn't feel as cheesy or as teen-focused as the book. You can likely challenge the second point, but I really felt like the movie did a better job of being for a wider audience.
I saw the film today and thought it was superior to the book in many ways.
1. No crappy/stupid "muttations" garbage at the end. So glad they just made them mutant dogs and didn't try to get into the dogs actually being the already-defeated tributes.
2. More believable relationship development between Peeta and Katniss. In the book, I just cringed most of the time, but here you could actually see the fake/real aspect of their relationship in its complexities, and I like how they didn't have "the talk" at the end, like they did in the book.
3. Better world building and sense of scale of the games, and the Capitol in particular. I thought the world building and mythology in the first book was pretty thin. It was better fleshed out in the movie.
Of course, the book did some things better (Gale's personality seemed colder to me in the book, and I preferred that, and the survival aspect was more played up int he book), but overall, I actually enjoyed the movie more than the book. It didn't feel as cheesy or as teen-focused as the book. You can likely challenge the second point, but I really felt like the movie did a better job of being for a wider audience.
They weren't actually the tributes, just made to look like them to unnerve them. At least that's what Katniss states in the beginning chapters of book 2.
I finally saw this tonight. I thought it was pretty good, but not amazing. One thing I found strange was even through it was two and a half hours long and based on a fairly short novel, there was a lot of context missing. I felt like because I read the book, I could fill in the blanks on who/what/why, but the movie left a lot of that out. I felt the same way about the Harry Potter films. Maybe that's just me.
There were two scenes right at the end that I think they should have added that would really have set up the sequels better.
They should have shown President Snow calling up the head game master and demanding that he change the rules back to just one winner after Cato's death. I feel that this would have shown Snow as the master manipulator, still trying to make sure everything would come out well for the Capital.
The other scene should have been a longer version of Katniss and Peeta coming to grips with the rules changing yet again to screw them. I feel like they just brushed it off too quickly. I would have like to have seen Katniss slowly realizing that they had the berries and they could still screw the Capital over.
They weren't actually the tributes, just made to look like them to unnerve them. At least that's what Katniss states in the beginning chapters of book 2.
Regardless, I found that part of the book to be incredibly stupid. I'm pretty sure I did a literal eye-roll when I first read it. It seemed to come out of nowhere and did little to serve the plot. It just felt like something thrown in to make readers say "holy shit!" when all it really did was cement the book as teenage cheese. Good cheese, but still cheese.
Every year is different. It's not explained in the movie, but they build a new arena for each games and they can be dramatically different from what we see in the 74th. The environment and that year's batch of tributes have a huge effect on how long the games go on for any given year. I believe the 74th games take around 2-3 weeks, which is about average.
Regardless, I found that part of the book to be incredibly stupid. I'm pretty sure I did a literal eye-roll when I first read it. It seemed to come out of nowhere and did little to serve the plot. It just felt like something thrown in to make readers say "holy shit!" when all it really did was cement the book as teenage cheese. Good cheese, but still cheese.
- So much shaky cam, this is the worst shaky cam I've ever seen. Normally it doesn't annoy me at all, but this time it was horrible
- Seems like the 'directors' were just cheating by shooting fireballs at the girl which annoyed me, even if that's the story. Nobody would agree with blatant cheating like that. Same with the 'wolves' (which was horrible CGI).
- not sure if that's part of the story, but all the love shit seemed so fake between them. Was no connection at all.
- How did those 4 bad guys get a huge stash of stuff together and bury the mines whilst they were chasing the girl around
- You almost never see the deadly hit to someone which annoyed me very much too
- romeo and julliet ending... barf
- "this will be the only announcement" ... 2 more follow.
- That cato guy going crazy all of a sudden and losing it...
- where were the cannonshots for the litte girl? The dude she killed with her bow? the guy that has his neck broken? ...
overall a 6/10. I didn't read the books though. Regret going to the cinema to watch this instead of just at my home.
as much as i thought caesar's commentary was a great choice in explaining the society/world/culture of panem, i think the movie could have been a lot stronger if it was focused more on katniss and her survival. i know this was a film being made with teenagers in mind, but the games lasted 3 weeks in the book, and they were about a week in the movie. things like how important food was, how katniss got 'in touch' with haymitch, and showing katniss as a survivor in general would have been much more interesting than shots of president snow or people in the gamemaker rooms, or the riot in district 11.
What makes it even more annoying - they mentioned the stuff in the movies, like 60% of Tributes dieing due to natural causes, lack of water, etc. Then the games start and you got nothing.
And WTF was that with
Tributes hanging out together? Don't they know they have to kill the others to win?
What makes it even more annoying - they mentioned the stuff in the movies, like 60% of Tributes dieing due to natural causes, lack of water, etc. Then the games start and you got nothing.
And WTF was that with
Tributes hanging out together? Don't they know they have to kill the others to win?
That's been explained in this thread multiple times already, but I'll do it again. The careers
band together out of tradition because: 1 - They want to increase their own chances of winning by killing all the others first; 2 - They want to end the Games as quickly as possible; 3 - They're afraid of direct confrontation between each other right in the beginning, so they band together in the hopes that some of them will die in the hands of other players.
What makes it even more annoying - they mentioned the stuff in the movies, like 60% of Tributes dieing due to natural causes, lack of water, etc. Then the games start and you got nothing.
And WTF was that with
Tributes hanging out together? Don't they know they have to kill the others to win?
They weren't actually the tributes, just made to look like them to unnerve them. At least that's what Katniss states in the beginning chapters of book 2.
- So much shaky cam, this is the worst shaky cam I've ever seen. Normally it doesn't annoy me at all, but this time it was horrible
- Seems like the 'directors' were just cheating by shooting fireballs at the girl which annoyed me, even if that's the story. Nobody would agree with blatant cheating like that. Same with the 'wolves' (which was horrible CGI).
- not sure if that's part of the story, but all the love shit seemed so fake between them. Was no connection at all.
- How did those 4 bad guys get a huge stash of stuff together and bury the mines whilst they were chasing the girl around
- You almost never see the deadly hit to someone which annoyed me very much too
- romeo and julliet ending... barf
- "this will be the only announcement" ... 2 more follow.
- That cato guy going crazy all of a sudden and losing it...
- where were the cannonshots for the litte girl? The dude she killed with her bow? the guy that has his neck broken? ...
overall a 6/10. I didn't read the books though. Regret going to the cinema to watch this instead of just at my home.
- they were shooting the fireballs to move her towards the other contestants since she was too far away. It was explained, they dont want people running away the entire time.
- they were shooting the fireballs to move her towards the other contestants since she was too far away. It was explained, they dont want people running away the entire time.
That actually makes sense considering that the primary time a weapon is used is in the initial bloodbath, then strategy takes over and the environment does it's work on them. Quite a few of them, including Katniss, would have been tough to kill if not for the arena itself. In the book, they mentioned one game where nearly everyone froze to death.
I also think that they were rallying together directly because of Katniss since she was both the Unknown but also the Gamemakers' focus. From the beginning this wasn't going to be a normal Hunger Games
- So much shaky cam, this is the worst shaky cam I've ever seen. Normally it doesn't annoy me at all, but this time it was horrible
- Seems like the 'directors' were just cheating by shooting fireballs at the girl which annoyed me, even if that's the story. Nobody would agree with blatant cheating like that. Same with the 'wolves' (which was horrible CGI).
- not sure if that's part of the story, but all the love shit seemed so fake between them. Was no connection at all.
- How did those 4 bad guys get a huge stash of stuff together and bury the mines whilst they were chasing the girl around
- You almost never see the deadly hit to someone which annoyed me very much too
- romeo and julliet ending... barf
- "this will be the only announcement" ... 2 more follow.
- That cato guy going crazy all of a sudden and losing it...
- where were the cannonshots for the litte girl? The dude she killed with her bow? the guy that has his neck broken? ...
overall a 6/10. I didn't read the books though. Regret going to the cinema to watch this instead of just at my home.
I was in the same situation as you almost exactly (including enjoying the third book). Saw the movie yesterday and I really enjoyed it.
The shaky cam stuff was a bit over the top. My friend who gets car and air sick got horribly nauseous before they even got to the actual games. We were sitting fairly close to the screen though. She moved to the back of the theater and watched the rest with no troubles.
I was actually happy with the actor who played Peeta. Rue was adorable.
Do any of you know what Cato said at the end? I saw the movie twice and couldn't make out what he says either time. I can tell it's supposed to be something to make you sympathetic towards him since he says "that's ok" but I can't make out what he says leading to that.
It truly disturbs me that there are people on here complaining about
Romeo and Juliet.
If you couldn't figure out that
she was bluffing
then...I feel sorry for you. Can't put it any kinder than that. It was blatantly obvious and no, I haven't read the books.
Do any of you know what Cato said at the end? I saw the movie twice and couldn't make out what he says either time. I can tell it's supposed to be something to make you sympathetic towards him since he says "that's ok" but I can't make out what he says leading to that.
- So much shaky cam, this is the worst shaky cam I've ever seen. Normally it doesn't annoy me at all, but this time it was horrible
- Seems like the 'directors' were just cheating by shooting fireballs at the girl which annoyed me, even if that's the story. Nobody would agree with blatant cheating like that. Same with the 'wolves' (which was horrible CGI).
- not sure if that's part of the story, but all the love shit seemed so fake between them. Was no connection at all.
- How did those 4 bad guys get a huge stash of stuff together and bury the mines whilst they were chasing the girl around
- You almost never see the deadly hit to someone which annoyed me very much too
- romeo and julliet ending... barf
- "this will be the only announcement" ... 2 more follow.
- That cato guy going crazy all of a sudden and losing it...
- where were the cannonshots for the litte girl? The dude she killed with her bow? the guy that has his neck broken? ...
overall a 6/10. I didn't read the books though. Regret going to the cinema to watch this instead of just at my home.
1. the fireballs were sort of a mockery of her 'girl on fire' thing. it was also meant to drive her towards the other tributes and not outright kill her.
2. the love stuff was fake for katniss. she doesn't love peeta. she was just trying to play up the tragedy angle to gain favor with the sponsors and win.
3. the romeo and juliet thing was more of a gambit to see if the capitol would really end the games with no victor at all. in the book it goes even further- they have the nightlock in their mouths, and she sort of resigns herself to 'oh well, i guess they don't need a victor' before claudius intervenes.
4. cato was always imbalanced. he explodes at that kid in training when he thinks he stole his knife.
5. the kid from district 3 (i think, the small one whose neck gets broken) isn't part of the career pack while they were on the hunt. he was back at the pile, digging up the land mines and resetting them (and also guarding the pile).
I saw the movie yesterday, and I read all three books perhaps a year ago. I thought the movie was well done, though my friend (who has motion sickness problems with FPS games) was actually apparently pretty bothered by the shaky camera and said it was worse than Blair Witch. It didn't bother me. We were sitting in the back of the front half of the theater. There were lots of camera/sound effects (hallucination, deadened sound, blur) that could probably be tuned down though.
I thought Katniss and Haymitch were my favorite actress/actor choices. I had fond memories of Zombieland, which was a very funny movie.
I have two questions, one of which didn't even occur to me but which my friend pointed out. I tried looking back in the book but I wondered if someone had a more complete explanation (Hunger Games 1 spoilers):
When Katniss is in the tree, I know she is actually 80 feet up in the book, but apparently the smoke from the campfire the group builds underneath the tree is apparently concentrated enough to sedate the tracker jacker nest. However, Katniss was apparently not bothered by the smoke even in the book? Or maybe I just missed that part?
More importantly, the group underneath the tree has both a fire and torches in the book, so why don't they try to stack brush under the tree and set it on fire? They tried their silly sword-climbing thing, why not at least try to burn it or smoke her out?
Secondly, what was Peeta's motivation to join the group again? He got in some brawl early apparently (did he kill people?), joined the group, and the plan was to lead them to Katniss so he could turn and help her against them? Or was there some other detail I forgot?
I saw the movie yesterday, and I read all three books perhaps a year ago. I thought the movie was well done, though my friend (who has motion sickness problems with FPS games) was actually apparently pretty bothered by the shaky camera and said it was worse than Blair Witch. It didn't bother me. We were sitting in the back of the front half of the theater. There were lots of camera/sound effects (hallucination, deadened sound, blur) that could probably be tuned down though.
I thought Katniss and Haymitch were my favorite actress/actor choices. I had fond memories of Zombieland, which was a very funny movie.
I have two questions, one of which didn't even occur to me but which my friend pointed out. I tried looking back in the book but I wondered if someone had a more complete explanation (Hunger Games 1 spoilers):
When Katniss is in the tree, I know she is actually 80 feet up in the book, but apparently the smoke from the campfire the group builds underneath the tree is apparently concentrated enough to sedate the tracker jacker nest. However, Katniss was apparently not bothered by the smoke even in the book? Or maybe I just missed that part?
More importantly, the group underneath the tree has both a fire and torches in the book, so why don't they try to stack brush under the tree and set it on fire? They tried their silly sword-climbing thing, why not at least try to burn it or smoke her out?
Secondly, what was Peeta's motivation to join the group again? He got in some brawl early apparently (did he kill people?), joined the group, and the plan was to lead them to Katniss so he could turn and help her against them? Or was there some other detail I forgot?
It was the raging forest fire from the game keepers, or at least that was my impression.
2)
Because they're silly?
3)
Peeta had one goal during the games. Sacrafice his life for Katniss. Protect her no matter what it meant for him. He killed 2 people, the girl that started the fire by Katniss on the first night and Foxface (on accident).
I saw the movie yesterday, and I read all three books perhaps a year ago. I thought the movie was well done, though my friend (who has motion sickness problems with FPS games) was actually apparently pretty bothered by the shaky camera and said it was worse than Blair Witch. It didn't bother me. We were sitting in the back of the front half of the theater. There were lots of camera/sound effects (hallucination, deadened sound, blur) that could probably be tuned down though.
I thought Katniss and Haymitch were my favorite actress/actor choices. I had fond memories of Zombieland, which was a very funny movie.
I have two questions, one of which didn't even occur to me but which my friend pointed out. I tried looking back in the book but I wondered if someone had a more complete explanation (Hunger Games 1 spoilers):
When Katniss is in the tree, I know she is actually 80 feet up in the book, but apparently the smoke from the campfire the group builds underneath the tree is apparently concentrated enough to sedate the tracker jacker nest. However, Katniss was apparently not bothered by the smoke even in the book? Or maybe I just missed that part?
More importantly, the group underneath the tree has both a fire and torches in the book, so why don't they try to stack brush under the tree and set it on fire? They tried their silly sword-climbing thing, why not at least try to burn it or smoke her out?
Secondly, what was Peeta's motivation to join the group again? He got in some brawl early apparently (did he kill people?), joined the group, and the plan was to lead them to Katniss so he could turn and help her against them? Or was there some other detail I forgot?
1. not sure
2. They were too dumb to wait her out. It took Peeta to come up with that plan. He didn't really want them to catch her. Again, this goes back to the career only being good with weapons and otherwise dumb as rocks.
3. His main priority was keeping bth of them alive. Joining the Careers accomplished that. Plus it was a fluke they ran into Kat.
Saw the movie last week. I really loved the movie, I think the steampunkish setting was pretty weird but good. I do have to say though, there were a few moments were I thought the movie was a bit too long, I think it should've been 20 minutes shorter.
Also, Jennifer Lawrence is hot.
May the odds be ever in your favor.
E: I didn't read the book, saw about half the trailer and I went to the movie with zero expectations. Turned out very good.
It was the raging forest fire from the game keepers, or at least that was my impression.
2)
Because they're silly?
3)
Peeta had one goal during the games. Sacrafice his life for Katniss. Protect her no matter what it meant for him. He killed 2 people, the girl that started the fire by Katniss on the first night and Foxface (on accident).
but I could be wrong. And people just being dumb for #2 is soooorta acceptable but not satisfactory. Also, they could have
tried to cut the tree down in some fashion even if they were too dumb to set it on fire...you'd think they would have some sort of sawblade weapon for wilderness survival.
And wow, I didn't realize
he killed the fire girl, especially considering how the rest of them were laughing about it. Did he at least try to do it in a humane fashion or whatever in the book
.
Last but not least, yes, Jennifer Lawrence is hot. In X-men with the skirt and scarf she was adorable. :3
but I could be wrong. And people just being dumb for #2 is soooorta acceptable but not satisfactory. Also, they could have
tried to cut the tree down in some fashion even if they were too dumb to set it on fire...you'd think they would have some sort of sawblade weapon for wilderness survival.
And wow, I didn't realize
he killed the fire girl, especially considering how the rest of them were laughing about it. Did he at least try to do it in a humane fashion or whatever in the book
.
Last but not least, yes, Jennifer Lawrence is hot. In X-men with the skirt and scarf she was adorable. :3
it is not implied who attempts to kill her first but they all walk away, they realize the cannon doesn't go off a couple minutes later. Peeta volunteers to go back and finish the job. Cannon goes off, he comes back and says it's done and Katniss recognizes his voice.
but I could be wrong. And people just being dumb for #2 is soooorta acceptable but not satisfactory. Also, they could have
tried to cut the tree down in some fashion even if they were too dumb to set it on fire...you'd think they would have some sort of sawblade weapon for wilderness survival.
And wow, I didn't realize
he killed the fire girl, especially considering how the rest of them were laughing about it. Did he at least try to do it in a humane fashion or whatever in the book
.
Last but not least, yes, Jennifer Lawrence is hot. In X-men with the skirt and scarf she was adorable. :3
The tree was huge in the book (The movie tree wasn't a slouch), so they would have to build a ring around it with the goal of it actually burning down. I don't see how that would be more practical than waiting her out. They didn't have anything else better to do. they may have figured it out the following day anyway.
There may have been a saw, but again, the careers don't think that way. Further, Kat may have had it.
OKay so after watching the movie twice, I can safely say that this movie is as overrated as a movie can get. Honestly, if the movie wasn't called Hunger Games and didn't have the following that the book brought it, it would not be receiving the praise that its getting.
The movie starts off extremely slow, I was bored to death up until the Hunger Games actually started.
And don't even get me started on all the plot holes throughout. The movie is average at best, and that's being nice.
OKay so after watching the movie twice, I can safely say that this movie is as overrated as a movie can get. Honestly, if the movie wasn't called Hunger Games and didn't have the following that the book brought it, it would not be receiving the praise that its getting.
The movie starts off extremely slow, I was bored to death up until the Hunger Games actually started.
And don't even get me started on all the plot holes throughout. The movie is average at best, and that's being nice.
And yet there are plenty of people that like the first half of the movie leading up to the games far more than the rest of the movie. Opinions, how do they work? The beginning sets up the character introduction, how the districts feel about the games, builds tension for the selection of candidates, does some brief world building, and sets up the protagonists motivations. What could be cut without hurting the movie? What plot holes? I agree that this movie is over hyped but I still found it to be good and I haven't read the books. Your post feels full of hyperbole.
