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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -6| How much lower can we go?!

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duckroll

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One Piece Film Z

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Just got back from the movie. It was so fucking good. I enjoyed Strong World despite the somewhat weak script and the weakass overhyped villain mostly because of the animation and the art. But Z not only corrects all the problems I had with Strong World, but surpasses it in every single way. Great direction, amazing music, solid villain, outstanding cameos, and fight after fight after fight TO DIE FOR.

The difference between Z and Strong World is that while Strong World felt like an average filler-tier side story with movie-tier production values and a really great cinematic touch in the opening and ending set pieces, Z is a ONE PIECE MOVIE from start to end. There are no leisurely scenes of the crew getting to a village in a new island and just chilling, and there's a lot less of the usual slow build up to a single climatic fight. Instead the entire movie is high kinetic action and major dramatic beats bridged by scene after scene of stuff which any One Piece fan would love to see.

Instead of introducing completely new characters and framing a film around the main characters interacting with them, this movie creates a very compelling original character, and then frames the movie around both Luffy's crew and all the Marine characters reacting to this character as a major event. It makes it much more exciting, and the stakes feel great.

I enjoyed the story, was blown away by the art and animation, and the direction is fucking amazing. The action in particular is really exciting and thrilling to way. Everything feels so fast, and yet there's tons of impact. The ending was pretty surprising too. I didn't expect it, but it was done really well. If Oda is going to keep improving on each movie he produces, I can't fucking wait for the next one.

Animation - AA+
Music - A+
Direction - AAA+
Story - A+
Overall - One Piece Anime of the Forever
 

faridmon

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No idea. I don't watch the One Piece TV anime. I have standards! :)

Fair enough. Too high class for us Anime lowlifes, eh...

ITs only like 3 or 4 episodes, what is there to even hate in it?

It was dumb. Fighting over an imaginary food. Suicide bombers that don't hit thier target. Giants who have the ability to shrink and expand. Luffy expanding into a giant. Dumb Z character.

Weakest arc ever even if it was a filler.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Would I like it if I hate the Z arc in the series?

Compare Little East Blue to Strong World. The shitty little promo arcs that they create to advertise the films have zero correlation to the quality of the films themselves.
 

duckroll

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Fair enough. Too high class for us Anime lowlifes, eh...

More like...

It was dumb. Fighting over an imaginary food. Suicide bombers that don't hit thier target. Giants who have the ability to shrink and expand. Luffy expanding into a giant. Dumb Z character.

Weakest arc ever even if it was a filler.

...I don't want to waste my time watching crap like what you just described! :D
 
Fair enough. Too high class for us Anime lowlifes, eh...



It was dumb. Fighting over an imaginary food. Suicide bombers that don't hit thier target. Giants who have the ability to shrink and expand. Luffy expanding into a giant. Dumb Z character.

Weakest arc ever even if it was a filler.

It was better than Fishman Island and Skypeia.
 

duckroll

Member
I really don't know anything about the Z intro arc in the TV anime, but I bet it didn't have Kizaru and Aokiji in it, unlike the movie. :)
 

Grzi

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One Piece Film Z



Just got back from the movie. It was so fucking good. I enjoyed Strong World despite the somewhat weak script and the weakass overhyped villain mostly because of the animation and the art. But Z not only corrects all the problems I had with Strong World, but surpasses it in every single way. Great direction, amazing music, solid villain, outstanding cameos, and fight after fight after fight TO DIE FOR.

The difference between Z and Strong World is that while Strong World felt like an average filler-tier side story with movie-tier production values and a really great cinematic touch in the opening and ending set pieces, Z is a ONE PIECE MOVIE from start to end. There are no leisurely scenes of the crew getting to a village in a new island and just chilling, and there's a lot less of the usual slow build up to a single climatic fight. Instead the entire movie is high kinetic action and major dramatic beats bridged by scene after scene of stuff which any One Piece fan would love to see.

Instead of introducing completely new characters and framing a film around the main characters interacting with them, this movie creates a very compelling original character, and then frames the movie around both Luffy's crew and all the Marine characters reacting to this character as a major event. It makes it much more exciting, and the stakes feel great.

I enjoyed the story, was blown away by the art and animation, and the direction is fucking amazing. The action in particular is really exciting and thrilling to way. Everything feels so fast, and yet there's tons of impact. The ending was pretty surprising too. I didn't expect it, but it was done really well. If Oda is going to keep improving on each movie he produces, I can't fucking wait for the next one.

Animation - AA+
Music - A+
Direction - AAA+
Story - A+
Overall - One Piece Anime of the Forever

I hate you.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
One Piece Film Z



Just got back from the movie. It was so fucking good. I enjoyed Strong World despite the somewhat weak script and the weakass overhyped villain mostly because of the animation and the art. But Z not only corrects all the problems I had with Strong World, but surpasses it in every single way. Great direction, amazing music, solid villain, outstanding cameos, and fight after fight after fight TO DIE FOR.

The difference between Z and Strong World is that while Strong World felt like an average filler-tier side story with movie-tier production values and a really great cinematic touch in the opening and ending set pieces, Z is a ONE PIECE MOVIE from start to end. There are no leisurely scenes of the crew getting to a village in a new island and just chilling, and there's a lot less of the usual slow build up to a single climatic fight. Instead the entire movie is high kinetic action and major dramatic beats bridged by scene after scene of stuff which any One Piece fan would love to see.

Instead of introducing completely new characters and framing a film around the main characters interacting with them, this movie creates a very compelling original character, and then frames the movie around both Luffy's crew and all the Marine characters reacting to this character as a major event. It makes it much more exciting, and the stakes feel great.

I enjoyed the story, was blown away by the art and animation, and the direction is fucking amazing. The action in particular is really exciting and thrilling to way. Everything feels so fast, and yet there's tons of impact. The ending was pretty surprising too. I didn't expect it, but it was done really well. If Oda is going to keep improving on each movie he produces, I can't fucking wait for the next one.

Animation - AA+
Music - A+
Direction - AAA+
Story - A+
Overall - One Piece Anime of the Forever

You're not making the wait any less painful!

Hahaha. Thanks for the impressions, man. I'm now looking forward to this even more.
 
One Piece Film Z



Just got back from the movie. It was so fucking good. I enjoyed Strong World despite the somewhat weak script and the weakass overhyped villain mostly because of the animation and the art. But Z not only corrects all the problems I had with Strong World, but surpasses it in every single way. Great direction, amazing music, solid villain, outstanding cameos, and fight after fight after fight TO DIE FOR.

The difference between Z and Strong World is that while Strong World felt like an average filler-tier side story with movie-tier production values and a really great cinematic touch in the opening and ending set pieces, Z is a ONE PIECE MOVIE from start to end. There are no leisurely scenes of the crew getting to a village in a new island and just chilling, and there's a lot less of the usual slow build up to a single climatic fight. Instead the entire movie is high kinetic action and major dramatic beats bridged by scene after scene of stuff which any One Piece fan would love to see.

Instead of introducing completely new characters and framing a film around the main characters interacting with them, this movie creates a very compelling original character, and then frames the movie around both Luffy's crew and all the Marine characters reacting to this character as a major event. It makes it much more exciting, and the stakes feel great.

I enjoyed the story, was blown away by the art and animation, and the direction is fucking amazing. The action in particular is really exciting and thrilling to way. Everything feels so fast, and yet there's tons of impact. The ending was pretty surprising too. I didn't expect it, but it was done really well. If Oda is going to keep improving on each movie he produces, I can't fucking wait for the next one.

Animation - AA+
Music - A+
Direction - AAA+
Story - A+
Overall - One Piece Anime of the Forever

Can't wait to watch this one now.
 

duckroll

Member
I love Hosoda, but it would be awesome if this film beat Wolf Children for the AOTY 2013, it would probably piss a lot of people off, could potentially be a lot of fun to watch that happen.

Wolf Children is a much more meaningful film, but One Piece Film Z is way more entertaining. It would be like comparing Portal 2 with Metal Gear Rising or something.
 

fertygo

Member
I love Hosoda, but it would be awesome if this film beat Wolf Children for the AOTY 2013, it would probably piss a lot of people off, could potentially be a lot of fun to watch that happen.

Well Z have quite heavy requirement to watch it.
 

Articalys

Member
Speaking of an SDBurton month, I just learned that Yoshitaka Ushiki (mangaka of Yumekui Merry) recently drew a pair of Mana/Rikka pictures, further proving how awesome he is by way of being a Precure yuri fanboy.
 

Extollere

Sucks at poetry
I used to have a tiny image from a Teri Terio manga as my avatar. It wasn't even lewd, just chibi, and I had my avatar banned for a month.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Love Live! 05:

This Niko certainly reminds me of another Niko from a recent series. She's basically a really angry version of Aoi from Aikatsu in that she's an idol otaku that becomes an idol. Though, unlike Aoi, who continually fails to advance in her aspirations in spite of being an expert on how the industry works because not protagonist, Niko's part of a balanced ensemble cast so her mad audience manipulation skillz will probably actually be useful. I hope that she doesn't immediately fall into the background because the viewers need somebody to continually remind them just how cynically calculated and artificial the whole industry is.
 

/XX/

Member
Having done a quick read up on it, there have been British astronauts but none from our Space Programme. Most of them applied directly to NASA.
I can't understand that! Because of the facilities that precisely the European Space Agency has been giving for many countries and their respective applicants just to show a more broad representation of astronauts/cosmonauts for all its nation members, it would have been easier applying through them... thankfully, that ostracism has mostly been left behind.

We don't even fund the International Space Station.
Maybe indirectly they are, through their general contribution to the ESA! ;-)

I'm sure I've asked this before, but has there ever been a case of a Japanese production made entirely in stop-motion?
Do you remember when we talked about Lotte Reiniger (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38906993&postcount=9901)? Well, she was the inspiration for a pioneer of paper-mation with the name of Noburō Ōfuji, and the rest was history...

You know... a bigger and well funded project for CHAINSAW MAID would be ideal, or something standalone that would expand what the Shin-chan's clay-mation movie intros do! We should ask for something like that to the prior experts of the technique at ufotable.

Anyone know of some other lesser-known cancelled anime that were swept under the rug?
Mr. Sadamoto & Mr. Maeda's R20:

:: CATSUKA PLAYER :: Route20 – Pilote
http://www.catsuka.com/player/route20_trailer
 
Sgt. Keroro Episode 209 or "I'm too lazy to come up with one right now"


A full episode this time. The platoon had to save the Earth because someone else wanted to take it over. Lots of Dororo being awesome in his battle scenes and Keroro acting stupid. This one was pretty good.
 

BluWacky

Member
Anyone know of some other lesser-known cancelled anime that were swept under the rug?

The one that I really wanted to see was Gonzo's adaptation of Suspiria, which duckroll alerted us to back in 2006 at the same time as Red Garden's staff announcement. It would probably have been terrible, but it would still have been fascinating.

The other title that I remember being curious about was a Satelight show called Cold Gehenna that Moon Phase listed for several years. I wondered whether it became Kissdum at the time but I never watched enough Kissdum to know if Gehenna was ever referenced in it... Anyway, I was purely interested in that because it was a Kawamori project but I don't think anything ever came of it.
 

duckroll

Member
The other title that I remember being curious about was a Satelight show called Cold Gehenna that Moon Phase listed for several years. I wondered whether it became Kissdum at the time but I never watched enough Kissdum to know if Gehenna was ever referenced in it... Anyway, I was purely interested in that because it was a Kawamori project but I don't think anything ever came of it.

Kissdum is definitely not Cold Gehenna. Kissdum was originally announced as Mugen Kikou Necrodiver, back when ABe was involved in the production design for it, doing image boards and so on.

In fact, you can see the original Moon Phase report on the staff listing for the project from the 2006 TAF: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20060326/p7
 

BluWacky

Member
Kissdum is definitely not Cold Gehenna. Kissdum was originally announced as Mugen Kikou Necrodiver, back when ABe was involved in the production design for it, doing image boards and so on.

That's what I was thinking of - I knew Kissdum had a previous name, but I'd forgotten what it was. And of course, Necrodivers were still in Kissdum. Thanks for the correction!
 
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