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[EvilKatarn]

Unattractive Equals Evil - Video #9
Man with Boobs - Video #10

Wow I feel offended already.


There's so many things I'd like to say about this but they'll probably get me banned.

Edit: The part about being offended was a joke. No sane person should be offended by something they read on the internet.

 

[rvy]

Wow I feel offended already.


There's so many things I'd like to say about this but they'll probably get me banned.

They would, just chill and don't insult anybody.

 

[K.Jack]

Might as well come into the first video, open to the possibility that it's decent.

 

[Trey]

I'm interested to see what she comes up with.

 

[Igo]

I'm so excited. Christmas has come incredibly early this year.

 

[TomJoadsGhost]

Its weird that in the header image cortana and anya are images of their action figures, do MS have a different attitude to their promotional artwork to the other companies?

 

[Soup Bar]

The Sexy Villainess - Video #4
Unattractive Equals Evil - Video #9

I'm pretty sure you can't have it both ways.

 

[bigboss370]

Wasn't there a bet made by two gaffers on whether or not she would leave out positive examples on at least one show

i dunno but your avatar is bitchin'

 

[SLV]

What game is this ?

 

[jimi_dini]

What game is this ?

Hitman Blood Money (Dance with the devil)?

Critizing that doesn't really make sense. It's supposed to be a really big party - one down below as "hell" - the other one on upper level "heaven". And everyone is dressed up. Dressing up as that makes sense in the context.

 

[SLV]

Hitman Blood Money (Heaven and Hell)?

Heh, although i have finished the game, don't remember anything like that, thanks !

 

[Coxswain]

Well this thread is sure off to a defensive start.

 

[rvy]

Hitman Blood Money (Dance with the devil)?

I sure hoped Anita played Absolution, there's *gasp* strippers with huge boobs in one level. And the Saints, dear God.

 

[90TilInfinity]

Could someone paraphrase what she said about Bayonetta (I'm not in a situation where I can watch youtube and won't be for a few hours)? I've never seen any of her videos, but was actually a little interested in this series because of what she might say about Bayo...

 

[Kikujiro]

I hope it's not just a list of tropes.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Could someone paraphrase what she said about Bayonetta (I'm not in a situation where I can watch youtube and won't be for a few hours)? I've never seen any of her videos, but was actually a little interested in this series because of what she might say about Bayo...

She said that Bayonetta being a single mother was the only redeeming thing about it.

 

[Sojgat]

I'm pretty sure you can't have it both ways.

I don't know...

But also, it's tropes plural. As in, it's a list of different ones.

 

[rvy]

Well this thread is sure off to a defensive start.

I like how people throw this term around so often in these threads.
Defensive means... what? That we think this subject deserves proper research as opposed to a biased approach and the spreading of misinformation?

 

[Hot Coldman]

about fucking time, jesus christ

 

[Phonomezer]

Hitman Blood Money (Dance with the devil)?

Critizing that doesn't really make sense. It's supposed to be a really big party - one down below as "hell" - the other one on upper level "heaven". And everyone is dressed up. Dressing up as that makes sense in the context.

Is it? I thought it was from Messiah.

 

[Lowlander2]

I've said all I should on this without a video actually coming out. I'm expecting less-than-stellar comments from her supporters and her detractors, so it'll make for a hair-tearing comments section.

Please, PLEASE, be good.

 

[Coxswain]

I like how people throw this term around so often in these threads.
Defensive means... what? That we think this subject deserves proper research as opposed to a biased approach and the spreading of misinformation?

It means that nobody has seen even the first video yet, let alone the entire series, and you're already doing the post-game analysis of how it's 'biased' and 'misinformation'.

Like, you're trying to discredit the entire project without even having seen it, based on what you assume is going to be the content based on episode titles and the project's logo.

 

[TomJoadsGhost]

I'm pretty sure you can't have it both ways.

every woman who is unnatractive is evil, but not all evil women are unnattractive i suppose.

 

[jimi_dini]

Is it? I thought it was from Messiah.

I'm not 100% sure, that's why I used a question mark.

 

[BassForever]

Will watch after work, will give the benefit of the doubt

 

[KissVibes]

I'd love to see the issue with Anya.

 

[Acquiescence]

I believe she will be talking about butch women of women that just act like one of the "bros"

Just from the video topics i have aboslutely no idea as what would pass as non sexist by her terms.

It just seems like she doesn't want a wide range of female characters to be portrayed whether they are positive or not.

Butch women exist, girls that flaunt their assets exist, damsels in distress exist.

of course that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for better examples of female characters in games.

i just cant help but feel like these video's are going to be incredibly biased.

So... it's not about men who actually have boobs then? That's a shame, that was the one vid I was looking forward to.

 

[rvy]

It means that nobody has seen even the first video yet, let alone the entire series, and you're already doing the post-game analysis of how it's 'biased' and 'misinformation'.

Like, you're trying to discredit the entire project without even having seen it, based on what you assume is going to be the content based on episode titles and the project's logo.

Turns out I've seen her previous work. Shocking, I know.

 

[QaaQer]

Let the hate train begin!

I'm actually prettty interested in her videos, but a little disappointed she isn't doing a Japan specific one, esp wrt to loli\moe.

 

[Kelas]

It means that nobody has seen even the first video yet, let alone the entire series, and you're already doing the post-game analysis of how it's 'biased' and 'misinformation'.

Like, you're trying to discredit the entire project without even having seen it, based on what you assume is going to be the content based on episode titles and the project's logo.

I think most people would be basing their assumptions on her past work. That should be a pretty good indicator of what's to come. Also, what else is there for people to discuss if not their thoughts of how the videos will turn out? A thread full of people simply acknowledging that a video is on the way doesn't seem like a very interesting discussion.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Let the hate train begin!

I'm actually prettty interested in her videos, but a little disappointed she isn't doing a Japan specific one, esp wrt to loli\moe.

Hopefully that's because she can't really speak to that culture that well.

 

[QaaQer]

Turns out I've seen her previous work. Shocking, I know.

past =/= future, shocking I know. btw what are your credentials in this field (semiotics/critical theory/feminist studies/academia in general)?

 

[QaaQer]

Hopefully that's because she can't really speak to that culture that well.

Undoubtedly true, but still disappointing given the extreme sexism of Japanese culture and the offputing sexualized female children in some Japanese gaming, there is probably a goldmine of analysis there.

 

[rvy]

past =/= future, shocking I know. btw what are your credentials in this field (semiotics/critical theory/feminist studies/academia in general)?

You need credentials to know if someone's work is misinformed and biased?
Here's my credentials, I played Bayonetta. Seems like I have more credentials than her. Actually, change "Bayonetta" to "games". Those are my credentials.

But I'd really enjoy it if someone with said credentials had a similar project.

 

[Phonomezer]

I'm not 100% sure, that's why I used a question mark.

You're right!

 

[Coxswain]

I think most people would be basing their assumptions on her past work. That should be a pretty good indicator of what's to come. Also, what else is there for people to discuss if not their thoughts of how the videos will turn out? A thread full of people simply acknowledging that a video is on the way doesn't seem like a very interesting discussion.

Do you see the difference between "I haven't found her previous works to be especially on-point and well-reasoned, so I'm not expecting this to be much good" and "Muskets at the ready, boys, the Anita-train is pullin' into the misinformation station today!"

 

[Hot Coldman]

Undoubtedly true, but still disappointing given the extreme sexism of Japanese culture and the offputing sexualized female children in some Japanese gaming, there is probably a goldmine of analysis there.

She'd have to spend a lot of time doing some serious research on that topic. Probably way more than the time she spent putting this thing together.

I agree, someone needs to tackle it, but I doubt she's the right woman for the job anyway.

 

[Khezu]

No matter what happens, this should be interesting.

I'm curious to see if the amount of money she received is going to hurt her in the long run, by building much higher expectations for her videos.

 

[rvy]

Do you see the difference between "I haven't found her previous works to be especially on-point and well-reasoned, so I'm not expecting this to be much good" and "Muskets at the ready, boys, the Anita-train is pullin' into the misinformation station today!"

Just for today? This should be amazing then.

 

[Aquamarine]

Let the hate train begin!

I'm actually prettty interested in her videos, but a little disappointed she isn't doing a Japan specific one, esp wrt to loli\moe.

That will be the second Kickstarter!

 

[daycru]

Do you see the difference between "I haven't found her previous works to be especially on-point and well-reasoned, so I'm not expecting this to be much good" and "Muskets at the ready, boys, the Anita-train is pullin' into the misinformation station today!"

For real. Overly angry dudes are who made her a celeb in the first place. Check the video out, poke holes in any arguments you think are invalid. But don't weirdly rage out. Please, for me. I'm 97 years old, my heart can't take it.

 

[toastyToast]

Hooray for tropes

 

[Femmeworth]

Please be good decent.

 

[Alucrid]

Do you see the difference between "I haven't found her previous works to be especially on-point and well-reasoned, so I'm not expecting this to be much good" and "Muskets at the ready, boys, the Anita-train is pullin' into the misinformation station today!"

this never left minsinformation station

 

[bigboss370]

I've said all I should on this without a video actually coming out. I'm expecting less-than-stellar comments from her supporters and her detractors, so it'll make for a hair-tearing comments section.

Please, PLEASE, be good.

What if she turns off the comments section?

 

[Gannd]

Soon all game characters will look like this

 

[rvy]

Hooray for tropes

I fully expect a "Tropes vs Men" kickstarter after this.

#2: The brain-dead, foul-mouthed and roidded-up male protagonist;
#3: The depressed animu pretty boy tasked to save the world;
#6: Boob-man;
#9: The nerdy scientist in distress;

Haunted should do it. Just because.

 

[BY2K]

Can someone provide me with a background story for the hate behind this?

I still don't get it.

 

[bigboss370]

It means that nobody has seen even the first video yet, let alone the entire series, and you're already doing the post-game analysis of how it's 'biased' and 'misinformation'.

Like, you're trying to discredit the entire project without even having seen it, based on what you assume is going to be the content based on episode titles and the project's logo.

oh please, going by the characters in the banner alone you can tell that some of it is going to be bullshit. unless the characters that i think don't belong in that banner are actually part of positive female characters, but i doubt that.

 

[daycru]

I fully expect a Tropes vs Men kickstarter after this.

#2: The brain-dead, foul-mouthed and roidded-up male protagonist;
#3: The depressed animu pretty boy tasked to save the world;
#6: Boob-man;

Haunted should do it. Just because.

This already happened, SHOCKINGLY turned out to be a scam.