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Kanye West presents Yeezus |OT| #YeezySeason Approaches

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Trey

Member
Ashhong said:
Technically not an opening track...but I'll let it slide.

It's a toss up for me between Good Morning and Dark Fantasy. I think Welcome to Heartbreak would have made a better opener than Say You Will.
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First song on the album.

And I agree about Welcome to Heartbreak.
 
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Bowser

Member
Schweini said:
Thanks for the answers regarding Wayne, guys!





Yeezus still hasn't arrived in Brazil. WTF!
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Figured I'd add my 2 cents on Weezy:

Studio: Carter 2 > Carter 3 > Carter (for me)
Mixtape: Dedication 2 > Drought 3 > No Ceilings

As for opening Ye songs, my top 3:

Dark Fantasy > Good Morning > We Don't Care
 
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hoos30

Member
KingKong said:
Ok, throughout the entire album Kanye is contrasting civil rights issues with himself. Like on New Slaves, he's not being Public Enemy, beyond a few lines about the DEA and CCA, it's about how he is affected by the media and fashion industry. I'm In It has 3 offensive lines that increase the depravity of what he's rapping. This song just follows that theme. He knows what Strange Fruit means but the song is about his failed relationship and it shows how important it was to him 3
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Hmmm. Thanks for the effort, but that actually makes it worse.

I'll be deleting this album from my devices and pretending it doesn't exist.
 
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RoboGeorgeForeman

Banned
I'm just not feeling this album at all. Maybe it'll grow on me if I give it another listen, but man, I didn't even have high expectations and it still managed to disappoint.
 
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Rastafarian42

Member
Johnny Dazzle said:
I felt like that on the first listen, gave it a few more tries and now I'm a believer.

Except that Jamaican rapper is awful.
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ctothej

Member
At first I thought the album just sounded... bad. But it's a total grower. After a few more listens I completely changed my opinion. I'd put Yeezus right behind MBDTF and his first two albums.
 
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kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I really like the track Black Skinhead but I can't wrap my head around how stupid the line "I keep it 300, like the Romans" sounds. Every single time. He even goes on to mention Trojans. I cringe every time I hear it.
 
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EloquentM

aka Mannny
kinoki said:
I really like the track Black Skinhead but I can't wrap my head around how stupid the line "I keep it 300, like the Romans" sounds. Every single time. He even goes on to mention Trojans. I cringe every time I hear it.
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After reading the interview on him keeping the croissant line in IAMG I'm starting to think the roman line was on purpose.
 
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kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
EloquentM said:
After reading the interview on him keeping the croissant line in IAMG I'm starting to think the roman line was on purpose.
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Just to annoy people like me? ;)
 
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enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
NR put up an article just saying not to expect a Yeezus sequel and the reasoning they had was good enough, Kanye will never do what you expect him to do. Because Rick Rubin mentioned the possibility of a "sequel" (whatever the hell that could mean or manifest), means it's already not going to happen.

Could some songs from the sessions make it onto other projects? Sure, but that's nothing that hasn't happened in the past in Ye's career or any hip-hop artist's career.
 
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Krev

Unconfirmed Member
Ashhong said:
Ah I never did get around to reading that, good shit. The Romans line is definitely intentional. 100%
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So what's the point of it? That Kanye can put dumb, confusing lines in his verses if he wants to? Am I supposed to be impressed?
 
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Syracuse022

Member
Ashhong said:
Ah I never did get around to reading that, good shit. The Romans line is definitely intentional. 100%
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After reading the Rick Rubin interview, I'm inclined to disagree - I keep hearing this "40 points in the fourth quarter" metaphor to describe Kanye laying vocals for 5 different tracks (on this 10 track album) in a 2 hour stretch of time, sandwiched in between a baby shower and a flight to Milan.

40 points in the fourth? Or rushed vocals with some downright inane and ignorant missteps? I choose the latter. LeBron scores 40 in the fourth after a week's worth of practice, as well as a game worth of shooting and feeling out his opponent. He doesn't do it after three quarters' worth of drinking milkshakes and watching movies.

With every interview, Kanye's creative process becomes a little clearer - he has too much shit going on right now. This is not early-era, chip-on-his-shoulder, laser-focused Kanye, trying to prove he belongs in the rap game. This is not "take an entire support group to a literal island to flush out the Amber Rose toxins" Kanye either. This is the Kanye who has a fashion line, and producer credits on a Jetsons (what?) movie, a kid on the way, and the world's most dramatic set of in-laws. Kanye showed up to meet with Rubin with 3.5 hours of demos and a few weeks to put together an album (presumably to sneak in a release before his kid popped out).

Here's Rubin's usual process (from discussions after they moved away from Kanye):
Rick Rubin said:
From the beginning, all I’ve ever cared about is things being great. I never cared about when they were done. Because I also feel like I want the music to last forever. And once you release it, you can’t go back and fix it, so you really have to get it right. And that takes time.
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That does not sound like the story we're hearing with Yeezus earlier in the interview. Why the interviewer doesn't make that connection is beyond me.
 
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XANDER CAGE

Member
Krev said:
So what's the point of it? That Kanye can put dumb, confusing lines in his verses if he wants to? Am I supposed to be impressed?
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It made a little more sense before the Inglorious Basterds line got cut. Originally, the song had three lines based around a similar theme:

-Twisting King Kong into a play on the "black people = apes" stereotype to describe how he feels about his media villain persona.

-Fudging the details of 300, a movie that was controversial itself for fudging details to stylize (and allegedly smear) Persians.

-Referencing Inglorious Basterds, a movie that intentionally fudges details to explore the pop culture attitude towards WW2.

It's a little sillier now that the IB line is gone, but there's at least a pattern here.
 
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Ashhong

Member
Krev said:
So what's the point of it? That Kanye can put dumb, confusing lines in his verses if he wants to? Am I supposed to be impressed?
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Are you impressed with the croissants line? No? Then why does this line have to impress? He did it because he wants to. And as Xander Cage explains above.

Syracuse022 said:
After reading the Rick Rubin interview, I'm inclined to disagree - I keep hearing this "40 points in the fourth quarter" metaphor to describe Kanye laying vocals for 5 different tracks (on this 10 track album) in a 2 hour stretch of time, sandwiched in between a baby shower and a flight to Milan.

40 points in the fourth? Or rushed vocals with some downright inane and ignorant missteps? I choose the latter. LeBron scores 40 in the fourth after a week's worth of practice, as well as a game worth of shooting and feeling out his opponent. He doesn't do it after three quarters' worth of drinking milkshakes and watching movies.
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I don't understand the Lebron comparison. You are implying that Kanye was sitting around drinking milkshakes and watching movies for X number of days or hours or weeks. Maybe the initial production process, the process that got him the whatever amount of material he brought to Rubin, was his 3 quarters. He got the foundation of the songs out, and then boom he busts out lyrics in a few hours. 3 quarter build up and a grand fourth. Exactly like Lebron.

I may be wrong, but you seem to think that Kanye was sitting around doing nothing before bringing it to Rubin, which is ludicrous.
 
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Ken Masters

Banned
Rubin mentioning kanye not having vocals so late in the process makes sense, some of the songs are lyrically the worst he's ever done on his solo album

Don't judge me joe brown!
 
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enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Ken Masters said:
Rubin mentioning kanye not having vocals so late in the process makes sense, some of the songs are lyrically the worst he's ever done on his solo album

Don't judge me joe brown!
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I mean, I agree it's lyrically the weakest of his catalog, but why is everyone in this thread complaining about the lyrics and then posting all the, even comparatively, awesome lyrics on the album?
 
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