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Atlus JP puts up Persona related teaser site counting down to November 24
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I'll buy this!!! +Marie can be party member
You play as a defense attorney.
Blood Diamonds
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No, the games are based on creating and fusing Personas, using them in battles, exploring the dungeons, grinding, getting powerful, getting stronger weapons and then beating the Final Boss.
Which takes up most of the 30-40hrs (70 hours for me when I played Persona 3 Portable)
I just replayed the entire crash and spyro series...I love kids games...but romancing high schoolers is something I feel is not age appropriate for myself....Im playing through PG4 now and hate doing the dating stuff....its boring...simple....and seems only like a terrible means to an end
Mauricio_Magus
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Well then it's just not for you, it's boring for you and that's perfectly fine.
I'm 25 and I'll always appreciate videogames no matter for what "age" they are supposed to be for, and Persona isn't really about dating girls even if it has dating sim elements on them.
LouisaFerre
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I know true open world might be a bit much to ask of Atlus, so I just hope for better dungeon design and being able to walk around parts of the city more in the way SMTIV allows you to. That was very enjoyable.
You don't have to romance anybody. I have not once romanced with a single person in P3 and 4. I don't get why you are, when you don't have to.
Anyways it just sounds like you don't like persona period and should stop forcing yourself.
To be fair you -don't- have to go out with anyone in P4G. It's a choice.
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For the record I am actually hoping for a college setting, it would be cool, but I can live with another high school setting.
Dr. Buni
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Then don't do the dating stuff, it is entirely optional. Or better, you could not play modern Persona games, if some aspects of the games bother you so much.
I definitely wouldn't say it's entirely optional. It might not be part of the critical path in the game, but the benefits you get for completing S-Links is not trivial. Obviously if this sort of game is not for someone, they should consider not playing it. Persona games are what they are. They're targeted at teens and young adults, and if the material is really such a turn off, well there are other games to play.
Psycho_Mantis
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I'm hoping for a darker Persona. 5 more days!!!!!!!
Persona 4-2 is Persona 4 Arena. It's a spin-off in terms of genre; it's a direct sequel in terms of narrative.
Arena is set after P4 and before the P4G epilogue.
Me too, P4 was great but I'm hoping for something a little darker this time around
I definitely wouldn't say it's entirely optional. It might not be part of the critical path in the game, but the benefits you get for completing S-Links is not trivial. Obviously if this sort of game is not for someone, they should consider not playing it. Persona games are what they are. They're targeted at teens and young adults, and if the material is really such a turn off, well there are other games to play.
You can complete the S-link as just friends.
PartTimeWarrior
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Binding of Issac X SMT
Mauricio_Magus
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It has always been highschool, I don't see how it would suddenly be a "natural" progression.
I thought Persona 2: Eternal Punishment didn't take place in High School?
I never played it, but I assume it isn't since you play as Maya.
Dr. Buni
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Darker how? Persona 4 was thematically quite the dark game, even darker than Persona 3 imo. The 'problem' was just the aesthetics of the game.
Most Persona games are set in high school. I really don't see how college setting would be a natural progression.
I really want them to have P5 be set with older characters in college. IDK I'm in college right now so im being selfish
Been wishing for older protags since Cid was introduced in the Final Fantasy Series. Auron does a good job at being a playable "older gentleman" and I loved it. So we can be selfish together
You are crazy...brilliantly crazy
I have no .apgn to show my excitement for this but know this would be awesome.
I definitely wouldn't say it's entirely optional. It might not be part of the critical path in the game, but the benefits you get for completing S-Links is not trivial. Obviously if this sort of game is not for someone, they should consider not playing it. Persona games are what they are. They're targeted at teens and young adults, and if the material is really such a turn off, well there are other games to play.
He could always try a Tonelico game
Persona 3 felt college like. I guess it was mostly because of the dorms.
Well, the games before Persona 3 didn't really focus on high school life as much as P3 and P4 do, but you're right. EP is the one exception in the series where most of the cast is composed of adults who have their own jobs, problems and stuff (not college students, though).
Must for who?
The one that keep demanding college setting is westerner, the least bigger target audience for the game.
Honestly even Nocturne, SMT IV, the Raidou games, or Soul Hackers feature high school age characters (the protagonists are 17-18) even if the games don't focus on high school like Persona. Older characters are still pretty common in Megaten as a whole but high school age characters are still a staple, and not just in Persona.
immortal-joe
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Main SMT series tends to get the darker-toned games. Since Persona games always have the backdrop of a school and the social aspect, it can't maintain a fully dark tone throughout the game.
Did Persona 4 really have all these versions made of it?
PERSONA 4
PERSONA 4 ARENA
PERSONA 4 GOLDEN
PERSONA 4, VOL. 2
GOLDEN 2 PERSONA 4
(these are all individual entries in the resume for Nanako's voice actress)
PERSONA 4
PERSONA 4 ARENA
PERSONA 4 GOLDEN
PERSONA 4, VOL. 2
GOLDEN 2 PERSONA 4
(these are all individual entries in the resume for Nanako's voice actress)
Unknown Soldier
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Persona 3 maintains a suitable dark tone throughout the game's story. P4 had a notable lighter tone than P3 did.
What is this Golden 2 Persona 4?
Dr. Buni
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Not really.
persona 3's main theme was DEATH
persona 4's main theme was scooby doo at the department store
Freaky Fred
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well said lol, Teddie was totally Scooby.
A much, much worse and incredibly annoying version of Scoob
Sounds like a lot of fun to me. Felt like Persona 3 took itself way too seriously when it didn't have a deep story that actually effectively dealt with each characters' psyche. Persona 4 had a much more friendly vibe that suited its world, and it made for a better experience.
Dr. Buni
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Yeah and I am not saying Persona 3 was a 'light' game. I am saying Persona 4 wasn't necessarily lighter than it. It had a lot of 'dark' stuff, like every other Persona game before it. The characters struggling with their inner/shadow selves (some of these being pretty fucked up), the murders, the villains, the city covered in fog, etc. So yeah, thematically-wise I think Persona 4 was darker than Persona 3.
Thing is, the Persona 4 cast wasn't as serious as the characters from previous games and yeah, the "detective/scooby doo" aspect of the game was pretty silly, but it is not fair to focus solely on these aspects and ignore the other parts of the game. Also, I love Persona 3 (P3P being my favorite Persona game), but it sometimes took itself too seriously. The characters weren't as fun and friendly as the ones in Persona 4, for example.
Hates self
Jealous of best friend
Resentful of family heritage
Homosexuality
Repressed libido
Doesn't know where he came from
Thinks life is a game
Transgender
Dead mother
Jealous of best friend
Resentful of family heritage
Homosexuality
Repressed libido
Doesn't know where he came from
Thinks life is a game
Transgender
Dead mother
None of those are particularly fucked up.
Well, they're not, but you kinda misread a few imho (Kanji's, Rise's and Naoto's). Though, I can definitely see why.
Dr. Buni
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We clearly have different readings of some of these shadow selves. Anyway, my point stands, Persona 4 had its dark moments and I wouldn't mind Persona 5 having the same tone as it.
lol
I love Yukari (and Junpei) and yes, they are funny, but they are also the exception to the rule. Mind you, I am not saying characters being serious is a bad thing, I just prefer the funny ones.
Dream Persona 5
- It exists, and it's a good game
- It's not on a region locked console
- It's different from Persona 2 and Persona 4, so that both fanbases can feel disappointed and possibly make up/destroy each other (either is fine)
- It finally connects the entire timeline, including Raidou
- It somehow still leads to the events of SMT1
- SMT1+2 PS4 remake announced, that's what Kaneko was working on
But I guess I'd be fine with just the first couple of points. As long as it stops all this insanity...
- It exists, and it's a good game
- It's not on a region locked console
- It's different from Persona 2 and Persona 4, so that both fanbases can feel disappointed and possibly make up/destroy each other (either is fine)
- It finally connects the entire timeline, including Raidou
- It somehow still leads to the events of SMT1
- SMT1+2 PS4 remake announced, that's what Kaneko was working on
But I guess I'd be fine with just the first couple of points. As long as it stops all this insanity...
At least 3 of those are notable causes for depression and suicide in people with identity issues.
I'm not sure how you can say the search for truth is thematically darker than dealing with mortality.
(P3 and P4 spoilers)
In P4 you have the murders, yes. But only 3 characters die over the course of the game, and only 1 has any real impact on the cast. There's the fake out with Nanako, but if you get the normal or true ending that's all it is, a fake out. Adachi is a nihilist which is kind of dark, but he's just so cartoony about it that he's hard to take seriously as a villain and comes across as a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum. The shadows aren't anything I'd call dark, they mostly just boil down to "I want to be accepted for the real me."
Now, in P3, you have pretty much everyone in the cast has someone close to them die either before or during the story. I think Fuuka is the only one spared from this. Junpei loses Chidori. Akihiko loses Shinjiro (who is also playable). Ken loses his mother before the story and the murder of Shinji by Strega later plays into his growth. Yukari finds out about the circumstances of her father's death. Mitsuru loses her father. Ikutsuki betrays you, then dies. This all leads up to a final battle which is confronting mortality directly. Mitsuru says it herself, "We all decided to put our lives on the line. In fact we came here knowing we would most likely die."
Now, in P3, you have pretty much everyone in the cast has someone close to them die either before or during the story. I think Fuuka is the only one spared from this. Junpei loses Chidori. Akihiko loses Shinjiro (who is also playable). Ken loses his mother before the story and the murder of Shinji by Strega later plays into his growth. Yukari finds out about the circumstances of her father's death. Mitsuru loses her father. Ikutsuki betrays you, then dies. This all leads up to a final battle which is confronting mortality directly. Mitsuru says it herself, "We all decided to put our lives on the line. In fact we came here knowing we would most likely die."
The game has a much more oppresive tone, and as you say, much more serious characters. I don't know how anyone can say it isn't the darker of the two.
It's early morning for me. I'm not typing out the extensive versions.
Well yeah, but they're not 'fucked up'.
Dr. Buni
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It really depends of what one considers to be dark. Dealing with personality issues and having to learn to accept yourself the way you are sounds like a more dark (or better, "mature") theme for a game than... mortality. Very few moments in P3 strikes me as impacting or "dark" as the various playable (or not) characters facing their fears in Persona 4. Then again, maybe I am just misunderstanding what you people are referring to as dark. If you want lots of death, grim and edgy stuff, darker colors, etc, then maybe Persona 4 isn't really dark. Still, darker or not, I wouldn't want Persona 5 to have a somewhat generic theme as death (Persona 3's theem). Persona 4 explored an unique ground in video games and expanded the psychological aspect of the series and I think Persona 5 should do the same, whether this theme is considered dark or not.
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