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"Indies should definitely jump onto the PS Vita" - Retro City Rampage Developer
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Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Great stuff in deed! FTL and Terraria as mentioned would be so awesome to have on this device as well. Here's hoping.
What really needs to happen though is more day and date stuff needs to occur with the Vita. That was part of RCR success. However, Zeboyd's RPGs would sell like gangbusters on the Vita. Do it....do it.
Toma I thought of another.....Kick Beat!
What really needs to happen though is more day and date stuff needs to occur with the Vita. That was part of RCR success. However, Zeboyd's RPGs would sell like gangbusters on the Vita. Do it....do it.
Toma I thought of another.....Kick Beat!
Don't forget RocketBirds!
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Dreamwriter
Member
Makes sense to me - when few good games are coming out for a system, the ones that do come out get a high percentage of sales.
EU PSN, not sure about the US one.
The thing is I can imagine the Vita being around for 2-3 years even if it ONLY has Indie dev support and no western AAA support at all. (Not to mention Gravity Rush 2 or another AC will likely come).
If devs and Sony are making money of the machine, then the small number of AAA Vita devs (although they of course would help the situation) wont mean that the Vita dies.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
I too found the game very boring
Shalashaska161
Member
Makes sense to me. The people who own Vita's are more likely to be a hardcore type who pay attention to the indie scene. Combine that with the Vita's poor software situation and those indie games start getting a lot more attention as people look for things to play.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Yup. I'm loving the Indie support its getting.
Terraria or bust! Do it 505.
Terraria or bust! Do it 505.
it's out in the US too
Well, we also know that AC:Liberation sold pretty well.
Even the "bad" games might sell more on the console, since... obviously.. they are still bad and sell less copies than the "good" games on Steam for example.
The overall impression seems to be that there is a huge potential for developers on Vita and that developers arent losing money on the console because Vita gamers have a huge pickup rate.
That's what is quite impressive about it still selling well I think:
1- month long delay to play it on something else or hear about how un-fun it was
2- Vita has a tiny fraction of the userbase that XBLA, Steam and PS3 have
3- free on ps+ in NA
4- mega delay on EU release - when it came out it competed against really anticipated games.
He advertised it right (retro gta with varied classic throwbacks) and Vita owners thought it would suit the platform well.
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
So a lack of retail releases is driving stellar sales for downloadable titles. Definitely great for indies, but I would think that this would be obvious. I guess you wouldn't expect it to drive sales further than their PS3 counterparts though. Impressive.
Well its not about the copies being "rented" for this thread. But yeah, I dont like the game eiither. Considering the dev is THIS vocal about Vita, I'll root for him though
BomberMouse
Member
Pfff Terraria is old stuff by now, their new game StarSomething or nothing!
ramoisdead
Member
Vita owners (like myself) are starving for games. And since no big publisher in the west are willing to make any games for it, it's all there for indie developers to reap in. It also doesn't hurt that Cross-Buy titles make it even more enticing.
I'm glad VBlank Entertainment found success on at least one platform after all the so-so reviews RCR has received.
I'm glad VBlank Entertainment found success on at least one platform after all the so-so reviews RCR has received.
CamHostage
Member
Awesome to hear that the platform is finding a market online. I've got like 20 Vita titles all lined up for the March cash-back sale. Now if only Sony can do something about the bubble limit...
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Deleted member 125677
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There's so much temptation in this list! If Indie developers turn to the Vita en masse, I'll have to reconsider buying one. Just the thought of Hotline Miami and Binding of Isaac on it makes me drool.
Shalashaska161
Member
Same sort of thing applies though. The lack of competition made AC Liberation stand out. The Vita audience isn't huge but they seem pretty willing to purchase software of all kinds.
CaptainTiptop
Member
Starbound.
Terraria is coming to PS360 soon. They just need to pop it through the magical PS3-to-Vita port machine is all!
I think especially in regard to Indie games, the Vita has a sort of Steam Buy-Pull effect for me. I want to buy all these Indie games, which I didnt feel on PS3, 360 or Wii, where I just bought the big ones.
This doesn't speak very highly of Sony's Digital marketplace. If Vita that has like 1/50th the userbase can sell more indie titles than it would seem the Sony marketplace is pretty dead. Great that indies are finding success but that's to be expected when your titles are about the only thing coming out on the platform.
The PS3 and Vita versions both MASSIVELY outsold the XBLA version.
No. No no no. No.
Terraria on Vita would be terrifyingly addictive and would probably ruin my work and social life.
Someone didn't read the OP!
Didn't RCR hit PSN first, even ahead of PC? Failing that, I think cross play with PS3/Vita (combined with the fact it's hitting the small base that probably WOULD get a Vita early one) was a tremendous help. I would've ran with PC otherwise, but playing on Vita? Sold!
And it was also probably the only way to get me through the whole game in the end.
And it was also probably the only way to get me through the whole game in the end.
So is XBLA and Steam then, so basically, everything.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Starbound. I would love this too, but 505 is already porting the PSN/XBL versions of Terraria, so they may as well hit this starving market.
Hopefully Starbound will hit nextgen consoles as well, Chucklefish says they are open to it.
Did you read the OP? Because all of this implies more devs jumping on the platform.
Vita seems to be a great platform for indies, the hardware definitely makes it more suited for your typical PC/Steam indie to develop for than 3DS (porting being less trivial and all), and the button inputs make it so you aren't locked into shitty on-screen keyboard iOS-type ports for a handheld version of a game.
The elephant in the room of course is that the platform has a starved userbase and indies can pretty much release content on the system uncontested, although I can't say that's too much of a bad thing. Better to be propped up by actually interesting games than downports of AAA franchises by B-tier teams.
And wow, Microsoft have practically thrown away indie support and sales in the years following massive digital releases like Castle Crashers and Braid. Pathetic that they have just allowed that to happen.
The elephant in the room of course is that the platform has a starved userbase and indies can pretty much release content on the system uncontested, although I can't say that's too much of a bad thing. Better to be propped up by actually interesting games than downports of AAA franchises by B-tier teams.
And wow, Microsoft have practically thrown away indie support and sales in the years following massive digital releases like Castle Crashers and Braid. Pathetic that they have just allowed that to happen.
Open Source
Banned
It's true. What we're seeing is that a very high percentage of Vita buyers are willing to spend lots of money on games.
Microsoft was way to obsessed with using the Live platform as a way to boost money intake to the point of treating indies as if they were big studios.
With both Nintendo and Sony going very aggressive with indies this time around will be interesting to see how Microsoft adapts.
"we're seeing"? Are you referring to something in particular or just the stuff mentioned in this thread?
I'm glad they think so because downloadable/indie handheld games have been far more interesting than the majority of retail games.
Sound Shapes and Dokuro should be on that list sooner or later.
Sound Shapes and Dokuro should be on that list sooner or later.
Urban Trial, Surge and Sine Mora are very good and highly recommended too.
Can't forget about Wizorb! PSPminis count too, right?
Ah, I totally forgot to buy Wizorb. Will grab that one later.
RpgN
Junior Member
Dokuro should be bought by every vita owner who enjoys puzzle platformers.
I'm all for indie games like Dokuro, Mutant Blobs Attack, Oddworld, Sine Mora and Super Stardust Delta, but not the ones that feel too cheap. The recent indie announcements have impressed a lot of people, but I've been a bit meh about them. But hey, if that creates demand and more support (and in turn more potential games that are interesting), then I'll welcome it.
I'm all for indie games like Dokuro, Mutant Blobs Attack, Oddworld, Sine Mora and Super Stardust Delta, but not the ones that feel too cheap. The recent indie announcements have impressed a lot of people, but I've been a bit meh about them. But hey, if that creates demand and more support (and in turn more potential games that are interesting), then I'll welcome it.