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Microsoft: X360 New Japan Scandal (Banned Words Redux)
- Thread starter Mandoric
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I AM JOHN!
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How could anyone not "get" this thread?
And the situation is pretty ... stupid. It's some isle that isn't worth a damn. Both sides are incredibly childish. Sadly, that's pretty common.
Germany - Poland relations are not much better, we all suffer because our grandparents (who are often dead by now anyway), fought against each other. I'm not going to discriminate against someone for, or apologize for, something that happened before any of us were born.
Also, I thought most Otaku would be unpolitical. It seems odd to have right-wing, national Otaku, when their western equivalent tends to be rather left-wing.
Then again, the playstation generation expanded the gaming market beyond nerds, so I guess the difference isn't that large after all. Odd how I despised non-nerds entering the gaming market, and now those guys despise grandmas entering the same market.
And the situation is pretty ... stupid. It's some isle that isn't worth a damn. Both sides are incredibly childish. Sadly, that's pretty common.
Germany - Poland relations are not much better, we all suffer because our grandparents (who are often dead by now anyway), fought against each other. I'm not going to discriminate against someone for, or apologize for, something that happened before any of us were born.
Also, I thought most Otaku would be unpolitical. It seems odd to have right-wing, national Otaku, when their western equivalent tends to be rather left-wing.
Then again, the playstation generation expanded the gaming market beyond nerds, so I guess the difference isn't that large after all. Odd how I despised non-nerds entering the gaming market, and now those guys despise grandmas entering the same market.
Summary:
-Korean name for disputed islands between Japan and Korea isn't banned on 360 Live but the Japanese name for it is.
-Many Japanese hardcore gamers/nerds are politically conservative/nationalist
-This is bad for the 360 in Japan because the only people who buyit are these nerds
As an anecdote, these very same nerds and the larger community of nerds on 2ch have launched many successful internet campaigns against Korean and Chinese interests/corporation. They weild the kind of virtual power GAF wish it has.
-Korean name for disputed islands between Japan and Korea isn't banned on 360 Live but the Japanese name for it is.
-Many Japanese hardcore gamers/nerds are politically conservative/nationalist
-This is bad for the 360 in Japan because the only people who buyit are these nerds
As an anecdote, these very same nerds and the larger community of nerds on 2ch have launched many successful internet campaigns against Korean and Chinese interests/corporation. They weild the kind of virtual power GAF wish it has.
Anth said:
the OP made it clear though that they aren't necessarily political, just very pride-driven.
on XBL it feels like almost everyone (when you play a public game) is "conservative" in the same way these otaku are-- i.e. just reactionary against anything that seems to be "against" their country/race. play any FPS or war-related game...that's where all the Iraq war supporters went :lol it even reflects in game releases like Freedom Fighters, Tom Clancy's Terrorist Killing Game #2293824, Full Spectrum Warrior etc. Even Halo's story has strong nationalistic overtones.
Hellsing321
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So these nationalistic/conservative nerds all buy and support a foreign product?Deku said:
Oooooh, look, they're doing list wars.
Looks like the 360 is winning!■■XBOX360■■
Bioshock
Call of Duty 2
Call of Duty 3
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars
Crackdown
DEAD OR ALIVE 4
Dead Rising
Fight Night Round 3
Forza Motorsport 2
Gears of War
Ghost Recon AW
Guitar Hero II
HALO3（予約だけでｗｗ）
Lost Planet
Madden NFL 07
Madden NFL 08
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
Need for Speed: Carbon
Oblivion
Perfect Dark Zero
Project Gotham Racing 3
Saints Row
Tom Clancy Ghost Recon AW2
Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Vegas
■■PS3■■
MotorStorm（本体同梱でやっとｗ）　←　マリオカートと比べ物にならないby SDF
Resistance(人類の存亡のために闘う神ゲー　←　SDFがもっとも好むFPS
Nuclear Muffin
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mugwhump said:
Wow they even have the SDF there! They truly are everywhere!
sixteen-bit
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Is this why there are no Korean Street and/or Virtua Fighters?
http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/showthread.php?t=81068Kabuki Waq said:
Cutting ties=getting a permaban:lolDCharlie said:
sixteen-bit
Member
Fixed for accuracytehbear said:
But after playing MS4, maybe not.
lastendconductor
Put your snobby liquids into my mouth!
So MS is trying to make a political point with this policy? this couldn't be innocent could it?
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DKnight said:
Not really possible. There is no other reason why they would ban the word "Takeshima" other than the dispute of the archipellago. It was probably the initiative of some Korean (probably Korean-American) person working in the Xbox department who got "Takeshima" banned.
I don't want to advocate racism, but a lot of the so called "Japanese nationalists" have plenty of good reasons for disliking Koreans.
thetrin
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This would be an entirely different issue if the archipelago was called "chin chin" or something. Then you could just chalk it up to an indiscriminate filter.
There's no mistaking what is being done here.
There's no mistaking what is being done here.
DKnight said:
As noted before, odds are, though it's completely unfeasible for the word to be banned for any other reason (it literally just means "Bamboo Island"), the decision was pushed out by a middle-manager in Redmond going down a poorly-constructed list of controversial place names he know nothing about and banning them all. Having actual institutional bias for the Korean naming system as opposed to standard English/Japanese naming when writing in English or Japanese, even though they've twice done it, is uncharacteristically clumsy even for Microsoft.
It's also possible that they're simply giving the squaky wheel the grease; Korea on a national level has been notably more vocal about naming issues than Japan has recently.
Edit: Of course, this is also one of those "third time's the charm" things. What looked about 99% likely to be an error the first time, now looks about 90% likely to be an error followed by some bad research or low-level bad judgement in not banning either neither nor both. Another similar mistake and my confidence that it's not policy will decline precipitously.
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Mandoric said:
The Koreas are more vocal about pretty much everything. Its a peninsula full of "victims" and they do their best to get everyone's attention.
BudokaiMR2
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People do realize that 2chan is one of the most racist places on the internet right?
I have a feeling this might have something to do with this....
I mean wasn't there a board in the past dedicated just to racist remarks towards koreans?
It is kinda bullshit though.
I have a feeling this might have something to do with this....
I mean wasn't there a board in the past dedicated just to racist remarks towards koreans?
It is kinda bullshit though.
Also, for those of you playing along at home---
2ch is like USENET for the Japanese; a multi-million-user bulletin board, many of whom enjoy the opportunity afforded by the utter lack of moderation to be asshats.
2chan is currently completely unrelated, and exists to host pictures of cartoon porn, cats, trains, and model kits.
Other than "nerds visit both", they're not even particularly similar.
2ch is like USENET for the Japanese; a multi-million-user bulletin board, many of whom enjoy the opportunity afforded by the utter lack of moderation to be asshats.
2chan is currently completely unrelated, and exists to host pictures of cartoon porn, cats, trains, and model kits.
Other than "nerds visit both", they're not even particularly similar.
rollingstart
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Amir0x said:
you had me convinced until I scrolled down.
and the actual op is pretty interesting, I can see why that is a big deal.
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