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USA crushes Australia 61-0 in Football World Cup opening.
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http://youtu.be/xMGioMac6FQZoddGutts said:
Let's all relive this glorious day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kA_D__6ay8&feature=player_profilepage
polyh3dron
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.WorriedCitizen said:
Cuz_7_8_9_Lawlz
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There are a LOT of stupid people in this topic who should stop posting for the sake of the future of our species.
FrenchMovieTheme
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goomba said:
that makes sense. lolz pussy ass NFL players
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the answer to both is no. this isn't trying to be disrespectful, it's just being honest. ours is a nation of american football and most people can't be bothered to care about soccer or rugby or anything else
I don't understand the crying whenever this debate pops up. I'm from America and have an NFL team in my hometown and think both types of Football are fucking awesome in my book. I just wish the US had something comparable to the English Premier League because the MLS just doesn't cut it. Since we are the same subject...FIFA >Madden.....by a MILE.
It's because of rampant athletic-xnophobia, with neither side wanting anything beyond the sports they've known for centuries. Also you'd think it's a matter of pride, since you're not going to take kindly to a sport your countrymen don't seem to be all too good at, and thus you feel the urge to spurn that particular form of athletics, since if it's a lessar sport, it means less embarrassment if your country/team fares poorly in it.Wizman23 said:
Yes.
cultofweaver
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xbhaskarx said:
In honour of this great post (and waiting for the kettle to boil) I decided to present the weekend scores of the opposed football codes in a manner that each audience may better understand them.
From this we learn that neither game really differs that much in terms of scoring and, most importantly, that Arsenal throwing away 4 goals in the second half is FUCKING HILARIOUS no matter how it is ultimately recorded.
My tea is ready. Back to the arguments.
nVidiot_Whore
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Ashsturm said:
I don't follow any team seriously in any sport.. or any pro sports league in general. I can still watch a random football game from time to time because I enjoy the actual game. I dislike the idea of being a sports fan in general. I can't stand listening to sports fans discuss "their team," or even listening to the announcers droll on about this or that. Grown men acting like it actually matters that some team that happens to have their home field near them is good or bad is just bazaar to me.
vas_a_morir
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That's stupid. Field goals are a HUGE part of the game. You can't take them out of the equation.
I played both kinds of football. Even with the 'standing around' that happens in American football, you seriously feel like you are going to DIE after a game of American football. Soccer, you feel almost refreshed. It's a different kind of exhaustion.
And getting hit hurts so bad, without the pads, that game would be literally gladiatorial combat.
I played both kinds of football. Even with the 'standing around' that happens in American football, you seriously feel like you are going to DIE after a game of American football. Soccer, you feel almost refreshed. It's a different kind of exhaustion.
And getting hit hurts so bad, without the pads, that game would be literally gladiatorial combat.
Dreams-Visions
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Thread needs more Ray Lewis and Lawrence Taylor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sewwpq3jD_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxlSqEHwQFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWo4KTOcHS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sewwpq3jD_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxlSqEHwQFs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWo4KTOcHS0
I'm a British born Australian and I love football, Aussie rules football, rugby AND American football all for what they are as separate sports.
It's like the argument over whether NASCAR, IRL, endurance racing or Formula 1 is the best. They are all born from the same sporting pedigree, so why can't people enjoy them all instead of having to choose one over the others?
It's like the argument over whether NASCAR, IRL, endurance racing or Formula 1 is the best. They are all born from the same sporting pedigree, so why can't people enjoy them all instead of having to choose one over the others?
nVidiot_Whore
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vas_a_morir said:
Soccer tournaments are brutal though.
Indoor soccer is also a pretty brutal game.
I used to play so much soccer as a kid.. my team practiced or played every day of the week.. played in multiple indoor leagues because it was good for training. Every Saturday from about 8am-2pm non stop indoor soccer (since we never lost.) Outdoor tournaments were just nuts.. often out in Eastern Washington where it's 90-100 degrees all summer.. kids dropping left and right from heat exhaustion.. 3 games a day for 2-3 days in a row if you made the finals.
Indoor soccer ruined my body though.. shin splits like a motherfucker.. couldn't practice my entire senior year because of them.. and I think it weekend my ankles.. I still suffer from an ankle injury from soccer when I was 17.. although my dumb ass finished the season off despite not being able to walk w/o crutches.
Except that field goals happen pretty much just as often as touchdowns, whereas approximately 1/20 goals are from penalty kicks.cdyhybrid said:
Mr. Patch said:
Right well they created the rules. They could give any amount of points for whatever they want. 2 point conversions were added just a few years ago. It's not like soccer where the scoring hasn't changed in 120 or so years. How about 4 points for a flea flicker. Make a new rule in the offseason, done.
AdventureRacing
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Scullibundo said:Let's see Americans come and play some Aussie rules footy and see how they fair. :lol
BTW yanks, Rugby isn't Australian football.
Fucking lol.
krameriffic
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I actually interpretted the title backwards to mean that Australia crushed the US in football 61-0. Then I had to make sure that it meant football and not soccer, because if it had meant football I would have had to kill myself.
Believe it or not, Japan has a pro American football league, is a big college sport (mind you in this country college sports are not what they are in America).
Here's a little info o n their league:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-League
Team names:
Asahi Beer Silver Star
Kajima Deers
IBM Big Blue
All Mitsubishi Lions
Fuji Xerox Minerva American Football Club
Bullseyes Tokyo
Fujitsu Frontiers
Obic Seagulls
Nihon Unisys Bulls
Akiharu Yasuda Pirates
Hurricanes
All Tokyo Gas Creators
Panasonic Electric Works Impulse
renamed from "Matsushita Electric Works Impulse" on October 1, 2008
Asahi Soft Drinks Challengers
Suita Marvies
Elecom Kobe Finies
AS One BlackEagles
Nagoya Cyclones
Here's a little info o n their league:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-League
Team names:
Asahi Beer Silver Star
Kajima Deers
IBM Big Blue
All Mitsubishi Lions
Fuji Xerox Minerva American Football Club
Bullseyes Tokyo
Fujitsu Frontiers
Obic Seagulls
Nihon Unisys Bulls
Akiharu Yasuda Pirates
Hurricanes
All Tokyo Gas Creators
Panasonic Electric Works Impulse
renamed from "Matsushita Electric Works Impulse" on October 1, 2008
Asahi Soft Drinks Challengers
Suita Marvies
Elecom Kobe Finies
AS One BlackEagles
Nagoya Cyclones
ConfusingJazz
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Scullibundo said:
aronnov reborn
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ViperVisor said:American Football is helped with artificial limits and rules and what not that have changed a lot or evolved over 100 years. There is the clock that ticks away. Sometimes the clock is frozen and the tension builds because this is likely win or lose.
Still have so much bitterness over this play. should have never happened. Jerry Rice fumbled on that drive and packers recovered.. refs ruled his knee was down... terrible call.... TERRIBLE!
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Nice catch. Gotta love Jerry Rice.aronnov reborn said:
aronnov reborn
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Bulbo Urethral Baggins said:
And TO dropped like 4 passes that game and then he pulls that crap off... damn you 1998!
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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I'm sure you get asked this all the time but how do you pronounce your name?xbhaskarx said:
Football is the game you watch at home on a lazy Sunday afternoon when all you want to do is put your feet up for a few hours, drink a beer, eat some junk food, and not worry about anything for 3 hours.
I hate actually going to an NFL game at the stadium because you sit in uncomfortable seats around fat, stupid people and pay a lot of money for the privilege.
It's entertaining and relaxing to watch on television. Whether there is 11 minutes of action or 60, it doesn't really matter to me. I watch it for the same reasons I watch Golf and Baseball on TV, just to relax and unwind.
I hate actually going to an NFL game at the stadium because you sit in uncomfortable seats around fat, stupid people and pay a lot of money for the privilege.
It's entertaining and relaxing to watch on television. Whether there is 11 minutes of action or 60, it doesn't really matter to me. I watch it for the same reasons I watch Golf and Baseball on TV, just to relax and unwind.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Stop living in the past dude. The Packers just won the damn Super Bowl.aronnov reborn said:
Are you a cheesehead perchance?
aronnov reborn said:
Dude, the Packers got away with at few calls in other games vs the 49ers, here's a few off of the top of my head
MNF game, 1996
Don Beebe scores on a 59yd TD pass. Only problem was that the ball skipped off of the ground and 49ers safety Tim McDonald touched him while he was down (making him down by contact). Beebe gets up and runs for a TD. 49ers lose in OT.
1997 NFC Championship
Green Bay fumbles the ball on the 49ers 2, Gary Plummer runs the length of the field for a TD, only to have it called back. The only problem was that William Henderson wasn't down (his forward progress wasn't stopped and his knees didn't touch).
If anything, the 49ers were due for one (and they would have beat Atlanta if Hearst hadn't blown his ankle out).
Pristine_Condition
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Swoop said:
Blackface said:
Pssssst.... just a clue for you guys, because you obviously need one. When the Sports Science guys said Quentin Jammer was one of the hardest hitters in football, everybody who knows about football laughed. You guys just didn't get the joke.
He isn't one of the hardest hitters at all. He's a cornerback. The hardest hitters in football are never cornerbacks, they are ends, linebackers and safeties.
So go ahead and put the best the All-Blacks have to offer in there, and we'll put someone who closes about as fast as Jammer, but brings 65-85 lbs. more muscle with him.
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Opiate said:
This is a completely shitty attitude I think.
Sport can teach us lessons about humanity, right? Isn't that always the lesson behind the Olympics?
Well, sports like our football teach a valuable lesson. Everybody can bring their own unique attributes to the team to make it better. The big, lumbering guys have a place on the team. The tiny, speedy guys have a place on the team. The guys who are really smart have a place. The guys who get by on brawn have a place. The team will be stronger for the diversity of people. You don't have to fit into a mold. You can bring your unique talent to the game.
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Also, you act like "extremely fat" is the norm in football. You even compare it to sumo. That is the most daft thing I've ever heard. It really shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
On any football field at any one time, there are 22 players on the team. How many are even close to fat? Maybe five or six, maximum. Usually, there's only like four or five--usually around two per team, right in the middle of the line. Those are the interior linemen. (Interesting factoid--offensive linemen, the huge guys most people who are ignorant of the game would think are just brutes, are actually usually highly intelligent. The smartest guys on the field according to the IQ tests. They have to be smart. The position is actually very cerebral. And often their college degrees reflect this.)
But even most linemen aren't fat.
This is 6'7" 315lbs. offensive lineman Lydon Murtha without the pads on. You wanna call him fat?:
What about the other side of the ball? This is 6'4" 310lbs. Defensive Lineman Ndamukong Suh, generally considered to be the prototype for the modern NFL defensive lineman:
Fat?
Here's a picture of him long jumping:
"Extremely fat?" Those are all defensive linemen standing in the background. I don't see any sumo wrestlers.
The fact is, in the modern NFL, actual "fat" guys are really rare now. Guys who are over 300lbs. and wear it well are more the norm.
So, now we are more educated about linemen. Who makes up the rest of the 22 players on a football field? Are they, as you claim, "hugely disproportionate body types of lifestyles" or are they closer to your idea of just "being in great shape" through hard work and conditioning? (NOTE: I didn't go picking out guys who are well-known to have spectacular physiques for their positions, so Terrell Owens for example, doesn't represent the wide receivers here. I tried to go for more representative samples)
There's the quarterback, of course. Here's what one looks like:
That's Peyton Manning.
How 'bout the running backs? Here's one:
That's Adrian Peterson.
How about the wide receivers? Here's Miles Austin:
Tight Ends? Here's Vernon Davis:
So, those are all the other major positions on the football field on offense. Let's see the positions that round out the defense...
Linebackers. Here's Shawne Merriman:
Defensive backs? Here's Safety Troy Polamalu:
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WARCOCK said:
A football team where everyone looks the same is a football team that will always lose. I think that's better than you guys' dream sport where everybody looks relatively the same.
And as far as your oh-so-touching story about your 5'5" soccer player, well, first off, Pele was 5'8" and a physical beast,
...and second, if you weren't so quick to arrogantly write off football, you'd know that those stories exist all over this sport as well. Want an example? Meet Wes Welker:
Wes is 5'8" and 180 lbs. That's tiny in football.
Wes is quick, but not particularly fast for a wide receiver.
Wes wasn't recruited out of high school to play college ball. He played for a small high school in Oklahoma. He wasn't even offered a scholarship to play football until a player backed out of an offer at the last minute, leaving Texas Tech University with an empty scholarship spot. But Wes made the best of it, and through hard work on and off the field, became a very good wide receiver, and one of the best punt returners in NCAA history, tying the record for punt returns, which still hasn't been broken.
Despite his impressive numbers, when Wes got out of college, nobody in the pros drafted him. Not one team believed he could make it in the NFL. They thought he was too small, too white, and not fast enough.
He eventually signed on to try to return punts for one team, then another, where he got a chance to play offense, and eventually became their best wide receiver.
Then, he moved on to the New England Patriots where he became one of the best wide receivers in the game. In 2007, he would tie the Super Bowl record for the most receptions in the game. In 2009, he would catch the second-most passes in a single season in the history of the NFL.
If that's not a story of "it's not how you were born, it's what you have it in you to become," then I don't know what one is...
goomba said:
Lol. NFL players are the best athletes in the world, bar none. Even the 320 Lb NFL lineman run 5.0 second 40 yard dashes. Imagine a dude that big coming at you with pads.
A hit from Ndamakung Suh,Ray Lewis or any NFL player with pads >>> any hit from a rugby player. Fact.
I played football from 3rd grade to senior year in high school. I also played sports year around from basketball to soccer. No sport comes close to the intensity, teamwork, passion and strategy of football.
And to think my European(Albanian) dad wanted me to focus on soccer. Lol, what a pussy.
Pristine_Condition said:
Brilliant post. Like I said no other sport can compare to the pure athleticism of the NFL.
Whether its Jake Long or Randy Moss there is no comparison in any other sport.
I'm sorry the rest of the world hasn't caught on.
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