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Weekend Confirmed - Ep. 55 - 04/08/2011

Today, April 08, 2011, 9 hours ago
Scheduling challenges make it a three-chair show this week. On the upside, that means there's plenty of room to spread out for Jeff, Garnett, and this week's guest Andrea Rene, host of Mahalo Video Games Today. They get right in to Whatcha Been Playin? with The Dishwasher: Vampire Smile, Ratchet and Clank All 4 One, and more. An unexpected debate on whether survival horror games must be scary spills into the Warning before taking up the question of "narrative dissonance" raised by the Sword and Sorcery developers Superbrothers, who also drop a tune from the game's soundtrack on us for this week's featured music. We wrap it all up with videogame news in the Front Page and Finishing Moves.

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thanks to the awesome work of @RyanCalavano check out this week's @weekendconfirmd before the show video http://bit.ly/hVCNFY

 

[Duffyside]

Really enjoyed Andrea on her last appearance. Hopefully it's a repeat performance.

 

[angelfly]

I thought Andrea was great the last time she was on. Hopefully this time there's less flirting from Garnett.

 

[Xater]

From the pre-show I already know that they will all hate on Dead Space. Ridiculous!

 

[DMczaf]

Awesome, more creepy flirting Garnett to go with 6th grade jokes Garnett.

 

[LiK]

STRAP IT ON.

 

[Takamura-San]

I thought Andrea was great the last time she was on. Hopefully this time there's less flirting from Garnett.

Then it wouldn't be Garnett, wouldn't it?

 

[Dogfacedgod]

Downloading now!

 

[Curufinwe]

Awesome, more creepy flirting Garnett to go with 6th grade jokes Garnett.

Like he doesn't do that with Jeff Canata every week.

Good lineup; looking forward to listening to the podcast.

 

[Duffyside]

In defense of Garnett, when Andrea made her first appearance I groaned and said, out-loud, to myself, because I'm a lonely recluse "Oh great, a girl is on the show. That means creepy Garnett is going to come out." But then I was surprised and relieved at how restrained he was. I didn't get the creepy/flirty/desperate thing almost at all last time. But maybe that was because I was prepared for it?

 

[Deadstar]

I'm not sure what I would do if my weekend stopped being confirmed. Downloading now so I'll be ready to listen at lunch time!

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Jeff, if you read this, I love you mate.

Not even joking.

 

[dekjo]

Ha, nice op hampster.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

STRAP IT ON.

post other podcasts meme is sad

 

[Grisby]

My weekend. It has been confirmed.

 

[Neuromancer]

post other podcasts meme is sad

All units!

 

[StuBurns]

All units!

Choo Choo!

 

[Duffyside]

Choo Choo!

Gosh you guys, these memes don't even make any sense here. They would only make sense... ON THE MOOOOOOOOOOOON!

 

[get2sammyb]

Yay Andrea. She's a good guest. Really enjoyed listening to her last time she was on.

 

[LiK]

post other podcasts meme is sad

OP did it first!

 

[nikeforces]

I joined gaf just to comment on the show. but i do love the show and keep up the great work guys

 

[GavinGT]

post other podcasts meme is sad

OP set the precedent.

 

[Lunchbox]

Choo Choo!

whatsyourfavoriteradiodstation IN THE WORLD
hot 97.5 !!
awwwwwwww lemme drop a bomb on that

voooooomf





Exclusive

 

[StuBurns]

 

[Neuromancer]

Andrea: "If there's no leveling system, no way to unlock new weapons , then what's the point?"

Anyone else remember the days when people used to play multiplayer games because they were fun, not because there were a hundred ranks and guns and perks to unlock?

 

[MiniBossBattle]

Why are we crossing the memes?

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Thanks

 

[firehawk12]

Zojirushi!

 

[JeffCannata]

Jeff, if you read this, I love you mate.

Not even joking.

Thanks, man! Love you, too!

 

[Shadow780]

Creepy Garnett is the best Garnett.

 

[Bigfoot]

I understand why Garnett and Jeff don't like Dead Space based on what they said, but I think you guys should at least attempt to complete up to the end of level 6 (of course that means getting past the awful asteroid part which make take a few attempts but it is worth it). I thought levels 5 and 6 throw some things at you that mix-up the game a bit. After that the game is a bit repetitive which was my only minor complaint of the game, but what game isn't repetitive. Also, you are on a mining ship so there is only so much you can do and still keep things logical. I've heard Dead Space 2 has more variety but I haven't played it yet.

As for the scary part, I found Dead Space scary for the first few levels. I guess everyone’s definition of scary is different, but if a game can make me walk slowly with my gun ready at all times compared to running through the levels, then it is scary to me. Of course, once you get used to the scares, or on my second play through, I was no longer playing this way.

Overall, I think Dead Space would be in my Top 10 games this gen but to each his own.

 

[Clockblockers]

Anyone else remember the days when people used to play multiplayer games because they were fun, not because there were a hundred ranks and guns and perks to unlock?

That was back when you would have your friends in the same room and you were yelling at each other as much as playing the actual game (Now I'm remembering my Goldeneye days on the N64)

 

[DaBuddaDa]

That was back when you would have your friends in the same room and you were yelling at each other as much as playing the actual game (Now I'm remembering my Goldeneye days on the N64)

Or back when online FPS was purely skill based, ala Quake, when a good K/D ratio actually meant something.

 

[Luckyman]

 

[Takamura-San]

Andrea: "If there's no leveling system, no way to unlock new weapons , then what's the point?"

Anyone else remember the days when people used to play multiplayer games because they were fun, not because there were a hundred ranks and guns and perks to unlock?

No. I totally forgot about that. I need my positive reinforcement.

 

[Rahxephon91]

Hip Hop Gamer should be pleased.

 

[StuBurns]

On the immature games thing, it's a major issue for this industry that 95% of triple A releases have absolutely no legitimate artistic stake. However for someone to show disdain over this an hour after insulating Mortal Kombat is more exciting than Portal 2 is laughable. You are part of the problem, every shit eater who buys up the none stop stream of vapid trash that floats out of this industry is responsible for it's continuous production.

Unlike in film, there is no way of making triple A scope games with a fraction of the budget, every twenty million dollar game has to be a mainstream product. In the film industry there are projects labelled 'execution dependent', which essentially means the quality of the film dictates it's profitability as appose to the marketing as it is with the major releases. No major game releases are execution dependent outside of things which the first parties can make with no intent of making money directly from the game in the hope it enriches the console portfolio, such as The Last Guardian.

Games will remain immature for as long as people buy shit games, and there is no sign of that slowing.

 

[Takamura-San]

Creepy Garnett is the best Garnett.

Creepy garnett is cringe worthy.

 

[Takamura-San]

On the immature games thing, it's a major issue for this industry that 95% of triple A releases have absolutely no legitimate artistic stake. However for someone to show disdain over this an hour after insulating Mortal Kombat is more exciting than Portal 2 is laughable. You are part of the problem, every shit eater who buys up the none stop stream of vapid trash that floats out of this industry is responsible for it's continuous production.

Unlike in film, there is no way of making triple A scope games with a fraction of the budget, every twenty million dollar game has to be a mainstream product. In the film industry there are projects labelled 'execution dependent', which essentially means the quality of the film dictates it's profitability as appose to the marketing as it is with the major releases. No major game releases are execution dependent outside of things which the first parties can make with no intent of making money directly from the game in the hope it enriches the console portfolio, such as The Last Guardian.

Games will remain immature for as long as people buy shit games, and there is no sign of that slowing.

Games will remain mostly immature, as long as they are games.

It's hard to portray hard gripping drama, and at the same time have a mechanic that is designed to be fun.

 

[nikeforces]

Andrea: "If there's no leveling system, no way to unlock new weapons , then what's the point?"

Anyone else remember the days when people used to play multiplayer games because they were fun, not because there were a hundred ranks and guns and perks to unlock?

There are games that still do this...........Halo, Gears, and Uncharted(the booster system somewhat messes that up but still) all had system similar to older style multi-player games pretty well.

 

[StuBurns]

Games will remain mostly immature, as long as they are games.

It's hard to portray hard gripping drama, and at the same time have a mechanic that is designed to be fun.

'Hard gripping drama' and 'mature' are hardly the same thing, it's a specific subset of mature content.

 

[Duffyside]

Just paused this at the 2 minute mark. Can't stand the veritable tsunami of Garnett Groaners right now. What an awkward train wreck of a start.

 

[Takamura-San]

'Hard gripping drama' and 'mature' are hardly the same thing, it's a specific subset of mature content.

It's just an example of how the nature of games don't lend itself to portray mature themes.

A game is inherent to be fun. Mature themes are usually derived from fun.

You have 2 forces pulling to opposite sides.

 

[LiK]

that image is begging to be altered but i shall not risk a ban for it, lol

 

[StuBurns]

It's just an example of how the nature of games don't lend itself to portray mature themes.

A game is inherent to be fun. Mature themes are usually derived from fun.

You have 2 forces pulling to opposite sides.

I'm not sure what that means, however I totally disagree with the parts I do understand. I'm not calling for every game to be Million Dollar Baby, some dense emotionally straining mini epic. Not contributing to mediocrity and immaturity is very little to ask of a creator/group of creators.

that image is begging to be altered but i shall not risk a ban for it, lol

Were you going to make her a fish? I'd like to see a fish eating sushi.

 

[firehawk12]

I'm not sure what that means, however I totally disagree with the parts I do understand. I'm not calling for every game to be Million Dollar Baby, some dense emotionally straining mini epic. Not contributing to mediocrity and immaturity is very little to ask of a creator/group of creators.

I said it last week and I'll say it again. Yakuza 4.
Too bad no one has played it because it's too Japanese. :lol

 

[StuBurns]

I said it last week and I'll say it again. Yakuza 4.
Too bad no one has played it because it's too Japanese. :lol

It's on my list of must plays, my issue is just every time I ask someone they tell me to start with a different entry. I'm either going to get 3 or 4 soon though.

 

[Takamura-San]

I'm not sure what that means, however I totally disagree with the parts I do understand. I'm not calling for every game to be Million Dollar Baby, some dense emotionally straining mini epic. Not contributing to mediocrity and immaturity is very little to ask of a creator/group of creators.


Were you going to make her a fish? I'd like to see a fish eating sushi.

I misspelled. I meant to say that mature themes are not usually not associated with fun.

I'm not trying to say that you mean for all games to be a Million dollar baby. And what i say is that the fact that they are games, those type of themes are hard to convey.

 

[firehawk12]

It's on my list of must plays, my issue is just every time I ask someone they tell me to start with a different entry. I'm either going to get 3 or 4 soon though.

In a way, you could probably play any of them because they all end somewhat conclusively. It's mostly the gameplay changes/improvements that might hang you up if you start with a newer one and try to go backwards.

And I'm willing to admit that Yakuza "cheats" by relying on cutscenes for a lot of their storytelling, but it's not like cutscenes don't appear in Western games... and they make the most of them.

Yakuza 4 touches on a lot of the standard issues of the series - duty, honor, "male bonding", but it also touched on issues you don't see in games (and even Japanese games) including male sexual desire and racism.
Heck, Yakuza 3 is probably the first game that made me cry in a genuine un-ironic manner and that's because you spend the first half of the game hanging out with orphans.

They're still very silly, very "heroic bloodshed", very Japanese games. But when people say they want "more than alien invasion stories" and don't play Yakuza games, they're doing themselves a disservice.

 

[Nizz]

Why are we crossing the memes?

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Thanks

I love this one, lol

Last week's show felt really laid back and fun. Not that it's never fun but there was a more lighthearted feel to it. Hope this week it's more of the same. And Andrea's on again? That's good news, I liked her the last time she was on.

 

[NewFresh]

This is the true Garnett