Brought that up earlier myself, still it also states right after:Ok.....
German authorities may still have enough to prove Karkoc commanded those beneath him to carry out the unthinkable acts.
Yeah, it's pretty lame that he felt he had to show us graphic imagery in order to get his point across.That severed head picture was horrific.
Good God.
That severed head picture was horrific.
Good God.
I guess I can count on everyone here to protest outside the Turkish embassy next April?
I guess I can count on everyone here to protest outside the Turkish embassy next April?
I guess I can count on everyone here to protest outside the Turkish embassy next April?
We see in this very thread a variety of responses showing a large degree of apathy towards the actions of the Nazis. The point will never be rammed home hard enough.The majority of the world will never forget what the Nazi did.
I guess we could count on you to call for the release of a hypothetical agent in the Armenian Massacre should one be brought to justice?I guess I can count on everyone here to protest outside the Turkish embassy next April?
Who cares? It was so long ago.
The guy will be dead in <5 years anyways. Let him rot.
I can see both sides. Any justice served now will be hollow, but it has to be done.
I guess I can count on everyone here to protest outside the Turkish embassy next April?
Are you freaking serious?
Are you freaking serious?
Are you freaking serious?
No, he's using Bombadil's view against him to make a point. Irony, in some fashion.
You shouldn't say something like that even if you're not serious or just trying to make a point.
Who cares? It was so long ago.
Why hasn't the guy who murdered a dozen civilians in Afghanistan not being executed? Why hasn't the countless dictators backed by the US who massacre and continue to massacre their civilians not being brought to justice and executed?
The time is always ripe to do right.
Though you're being sarcastic, you're correct.
Nobody cares.
At least nobody who has the ability to do anything about it.
I guess I can count on everyone here to protest outside the Turkish embassy next April?
Give him a painful death to make up for years he got and to make up for the THOUSANDS of years he stole from others?
Awful..lol.I was gonna buy a ps4 instead of an Xbox One, but enough time has passed.
There's a pretty big difference between going to protest an embassy and willfully choosing to excuse a war criminal because of the amount of time that has passed.
The Armenian Genocide seems to be a pet issue for you, and until everyone is outraged about it you think we can't be mad at Nazis. A difference in opinion between the two shouldn't result in you getting upset, wanting to let this guy off, or calling others hypocrits. It should make you want to educate others or be an advocate for your cause when and where it's appropriate.
But it's easier to be pissy. It's your choice.
Dude is 94 years old why the fuck bother?
Send a message for future generations we don't tolerate this fucking bullshit.
but we do
... You could say that.
I was pointing out the fact that a lot of the people who berated me for saying it was too late or that too much time had passed do the same thing concerning other tragedies that have occurred in history. Nobody really understood that.
... You could say that.
... You could say that.
I was pointing out the fact that a lot of the people who berated me for saying it was too late or that too much time had passed do the same thing concerning other tragedies that have occurred in history. Nobody really understood that.
So if it came to light there were a participant of the Armenian genocide still living in Minnesota, would you feel the same way - that it would be pointless to follow any legal pursuit against this person?
... You could say that.
I was pointing out the fact that a lot of the people who berated me for saying it was too late or that too much time had passed do the same thing concerning other tragedies that have occurred in history. Nobody really understood that.
Point out somebody here who is against trying a direct perpetrator of genocide. Oherwise your outrage is even more "faux" by creating such a silly strawman argument.Faux outrage on the internet doesn't make you a more moral person than anyone else. No one said what he did was okay.
Just acknowledge that whatever "justice" is exacted on this person is really just a hollow gesture.
My grandparents survived the Armenian Genocide and spent the rest of their lives witnessing the indifference of the rest of the world. The President of the country I live in today shakes hands with the leader of the country that did this:
Here he is:
That very country's government disseminates material denying the genocide.
You're a game developer who works in a country that is founded on land violently wrested away from its natives.
How much thought do you give to these facts? Should we give the land back to the Native Americans? Should we give Ararat back to the Armenians?
What justice is there for them? But when some singular incident arises on the internet, some pathetic little man who evaded justice for 70 years is found, and you guys trumpet your morality.
It's all bullshit.
I feel as though you could be more creative with his sentence. Is there not something better you can put this man's final years toward then rotting in a prison? That probably is what he deserves though... :-/
Bombadil won't answer this question, because he realizes that any answer to this question will expose him as a hypocrite. If he says no, then we can therefore conclude that any arguments of his have hinged purely on emotion, and his repetitive appeals to the general public's (lack of) awareness of the Armenian genocide are meaningless fallacies which only belie his own emotional prejudice, rather than any kind of substantive argument. If he says yes, then he is falling victim to the very thing which he is decrying, that is, the forbearance of justice in face of contemporary indifference. But if the sins of the past are not worth our time, then how we can possibly face those of the present?
Please tell me you see the difference between recognising an atrocity that was far enough in history that the perpetrators are all dead, and actually bringing a tangible (suspected) war criminal to account.You're trying to trap me or something?
I wouldn't do anything because anyone involved in the Armenian genocide would be more than a 100 years old.
And Fiction, I didn't come into this thread screaming anything.
What happened was a bunch of people came into the thread and said things like, "I can't believe that there are people who defend nazis" and "You guys must be fourteen" and "I would get banned if I said what I really thought of some of you."
And that's an attack on my character.
So I pointed out a hypocrisy. All the people acting high and mighty are very selective in the atrocities that they pay attention to, that they demand justice for. They get mad when I say it's too late for justice, but they know it to be true. How many American land-owning gaffers will give up their property to Native Americans? How many gaffers will demand the US government to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide? Nobody.
So stop attacking my position that it's too late for justice when so many of you will behave upon that logic concerning other atrocities.
So I pointed out a hypocrisy. All the people acting high and mighty are very selective in the atrocities that they pay attention to, that they demand justice for. They get mad when I say it's too late for justice, but they know it to be true. How many American land-owning gaffers will give up their property to Native Americans? How many gaffers will demand the US government to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide? Nobody.
So stop attacking my position that it's too late for justice when so many of you will behave upon that logic concerning other atrocities.
I don't think it's an attack on your character by comparing your logic to a 14 year old. It could be a very useful comparison. Who else would find trying an actual Nazi for crimes he directly committed with the US recognizing that Armenian stuff, or Americans giving up their property to Native Americans?You're trying to trap me or something?
I wouldn't do anything because anyone involved in the Armenian genocide would be more than a 100 years old.
And Fiction, I didn't come into this thread screaming anything.
What happened was a bunch of people came into the thread and said things like, "I can't believe that there are people who defend nazis" and "You guys must be fourteen" and "I would get banned if I said what I really thought of some of you."
And that's an attack on my character.
So I pointed out a hypocrisy. All the people acting high and mighty are very selective in the atrocities that they pay attention to, that they demand justice for. They get mad when I say it's too late for justice, but they know it to be true. How many American land-owning gaffers will give up their property to Native Americans? How many gaffers will demand the US government to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide? Nobody.
So stop attacking my position that it's too late for justice when so many of you will behave upon that logic concerning other atrocities.