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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don
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Holy Order Sol
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I've always called it Triforce Slash for some reason.
Son of Godzilla
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superbank said:
I think they pretty much have to. At the very least the caster is going to get some invulnerability time and anyone that gets hit is gonna get sucked into the attack. Whether or not everyone being unrsponsive counts as gameplay interruption is up to personal opinion I suppose.
Son of Godzilla said:
The caster should be more vulnerable as he's trying to do a final smash not invincible. When the attack is being executed, yes, the attacker and anyone that gets caught in it will lose control. But before you execute the move you should be more vulnerable than normal or at least the other people can hit you. There has to be a trade off to the item to keep it balanced.
_Alkaline_
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superbank said:Whoa there. Why would you bring that into this thread?
Galaxy has better lighting, animation, models, and more stuff is being rendered.
Yes to all except models.
But yeah, lighting is what makes Galaxy look so good.
Son of Godzilla
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superbank said:
Smash is at heart a 4 player game, and if you don't get invlun while in the final smash it's nearly worthless, especially if they are as specific as Link's seems to be. Sure, there will probably be some casting frames in which the thing is interruptible or you can use to gtfo, but I can't imagine someone in a final smash being vulnerable to potshots from those not caught in it. At the very least it won't be interruptible.
Son of Godzilla said:
I'm basing the whole thing around the idea that Final Smashes charge up over time (maybe 4 or 5 seconds) and are released without the players input, just to clarify. So during those 4-5 seconds the Final Smashers has to avoid enemy attack, if anyone is close enough, before he can be rewarded with multiple kills/opponents HP gaining a significant amount. During FS animation no one can stop him.
Tornado Condor
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Uber Player said:
when we get all the shitty updates
Chris Remo
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Smash has to render everything lightning-quick, though. Better to be on the safe side.superbank said:Whoa there. Why would you bring that into this thread?
Galaxy has better lighting, animation, models, and more stuff is being rendered.
_Alkaline_
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PerkeyMan said:
Not bullshots. These are zoomed in screens of the game - naturally, when you're playing, the camera is zoomed out so you can see everything. So the game does not look as good when playing normally, but if you press start and zoom in, the game will look this good. It's just the nature of the camera that means you can't see all the good details when you're playing.
RubxQub, the camera will not zoom in on the final smash.
_Alkaline_
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RubxQub said:
I am god.
Go play a round of Melee and pause the game, you can zoom in on each combatant, change angles, anything. While it's not 100% that's what's going on in these shots, why would they show the whole stage where nothing else is going on, and not pause/zoom in on the action to take screenshots to show more clearly what they are talking about?RubxQub said:
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Kind of insulting to insinuate that I don't understand how Melee works...but ANYWAYS.Koomaster said:
It sounds like no one has any proof that there won't be a mini cut-scene whenever a Final Smash is performed, and are simply taking screenshots and making assumptions.
How much sense would it make that there wouldn't be a little cut-scene? Link is in the middle of doing a Final Smash and then someone just taps him and he breaks out of it? Yet Mario can just fire off his without fear of interruption?
RubxQub said:
I doubt Sakurai would use there be mini-cutscenes. That would totally interrupt the flow of the game.
Assuming that there will be mini cutscenes based on screenshots is silly as well. Just because the shots are zoomed in on the character performing the Final Smash, there's a cutscene? In case you guys hadn't noticed. 95% of all of the screens on that site are zoomed in and taken at different angles.
OMG, cutscene everytime Samus lands after jumping?!?
Also, I don't think the character performing the final smash should be completely invulnerable. That wouldn't be any fun. Sure, they're dealing out a lot more damage, which is already an advantage in itself, but making them invincible would take the fun out of it. It would take the player out of the game; you might as well just set your controller down for 5 seconds. Even when a player got the kickass hammer in SSBM, they weren't invincible. They sure were hard to stop, but not invincible.
Also, what happends if there's a 4 player melee going on and one character performs a Final Smash on another? If there's a cutscene like some of you think, what do the other players do? Just sit there? I don't think Sakurai wants to break up the action with a cutscene just like I don't think he'd want a character to become all powerful and unstoppable for a period of time.
Just my 2 cents.
RubxQub
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I completely agree. I don't think there will be cut-scenes for everything they've shown, but the trailers also showed animations that were cut-scenish for these Final Smash moves.Nintaiyo said:
I'm sure they want to keep the game paced well, so I'm praying that these aren't little cut scenes.
Hopefully they have enough sense of the game to realize this, but nothing is fact yet.
Zoramon089
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RubxQub said:
Or they could just make him invincible for the duration of the attack. Problem solved
Akinola
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Nintaiyo said:I doubt Sakurai would use there be mini-cutscenes. That would totally interrupt the flow of the game.
Assuming that there will be mini cutscenes based on screenshots is silly as well. Just because the shots are zoomed in on the character performing the Final Smash, there's a cutscene? In case you guys hadn't noticed. 95% of all of the screens on that site are zoomed in and taken at different angles.
OMG, cutscene everytime Samus lands after jumping?!?
You guys remember Samus jumping out of her gunship at the beginning of Prime and Prime 2. Several flips followed by a clunk landing, one arm on the ground. Then she stands up and readies her systems. Still gives me chills when I think about it. It signals the completed preparation to kick space pirate ass.
WastingPenguins
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Alkaliine said:
Sorry, guys, but the original trailer clearly shows what appear to be short cut-scenes during Final Smashes. All evidence thus far shows zoomed-in, action-interrupting scenes. It sucks, but what makes people think this won't happen when all the info we currently have points to this? Wishful thinking?
ShockingAlberto
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Cause it was like a year ago.WastingPenguins said:
It also used FMV for character introductions. And everyone switched from their Gamecube models to their Wii ones. Are you expecting this to take place in the game, as well? Or are you willing to write it off as dramatic license and bite your tongue until you actually know for sure how it's going to work?
WastingPenguins
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ShockingAlberto said:
You're right. Snake was in the game but that was a year ago, I bet he got taken out. Etc. etc.
I realize it's not "confirmation", but it's certainly convincing evidence in support of FS cutscenes. I agree, cutscenes would suck! But there's no reason to assume that what was in the game then isn't in it now for no reason other than wishful thinking.
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