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epmode · Oct 29, 2007

Jiggy37 said:
Well, I could see how SF2 would be pretty easy to manage, but DOA4 presents a stronger case. Still, Smash has four players, items spawning, and more dynamic stages than DOA.

So you're saying that Smash Bros+chat is somehow more complex and would require more bandwidth than any voice-chat-capable online game for any console? There's no way.

If voice chat is excluded, it'll be because Nintendo either doesn't want to make a Wii microphone (which is a little crazy, considering the amount of additional Wii peripherals) or because of their bizzare online philosophy. Remember the initial wi-fi annoucement?

If you think of your opponent as a simple scarecrow, any psychological barriers may melt away.

That's a bit nuts.

Mejilan · Oct 29, 2007

Holy shit. Custom stages, custom stage sharing, and daily (or thereabouts) content downloads (mostly user created, I imagine) from Nintendo?

Wowness.

Iam Canadian · Oct 29, 2007

epmode said:
because of their bizzare online philosophy. Remember the initial wi-fi annoucement?That's a bit nuts.

I'm pretty sure that's a cultural thing. At least, that's what people more knowledgeable about Japan than I have said.

SuperAngelo64 · Oct 29, 2007

renessahnz said:
brilliant!

What would be great is if you could time item drops.

So every now and then the Golden Hammer would spawn where the Golden Axe is.

Version 3.0 · Oct 29, 2007

dfyb said:
the bottom area would be conveyer belts moving toward the hole

I like this, very very much. If it were me, I'd not have ladders--let people on the bottom fight their way up, or just give up and die to get back on the top.

[Nintex] · Oct 29, 2007

First thing I thought of when the level builder was unveiled

no not a penis

Didn't see you guys were already creating Mario levels

Edit: I think I need to turn the flag pole into a ladder to make the stage more playable.

XSX · Oct 29, 2007

iby.h said:
Sakurai - I made Smash bros. And so can you!

I see what you did there.

Teasel · Oct 29, 2007

SuperAngelo64 said:
Honestly, all this game needs now is Megaman

i had to cheat a little bit because the editor is pretty small and megaman head is fucking huge

Xeke · Oct 29, 2007

This level NEEDS to be made.

Zeed · Oct 29, 2007

Jocchan said:
My MGS-themed stage:

I spit out my tea. LOL. Though I was hoping The Ladder would be one of Snake's assist trophies.

gabe90 · Oct 29, 2007

Oh my god. If this much creative content is already coming from this thread, I can't wait to see the real user created stages.

Looks like I finally have a reason to register my Wii code with the GAF.

dfyb · Oct 29, 2007

Xeke said:
This level NEEDS to be made.

but that would probably be sorta confined - not really sure how well it'd play.

this one would probably play better, but it isn't as accurate (top platform may not be accessible, but it really depends on how the game handles boundries)

edit: it would be REALLY fun to be able to set side boundries to just teleport you to the other side instantly like in mario bros. get hit really hard and you'd fly across the map like 3 times :lol. the top could be left open for kills.

Capndrake · Oct 29, 2007

I could actually see this happening as a real stage, because of ladders (Probably already beaten but meh):

RagnarokX · Oct 29, 2007

Xeke said:
This level NEEDS to be made.

Probably best to just ignore the pipes...

thefro · Oct 29, 2007

That flash stage builder totally accurate as far as size goes, since I see 3 different possible stage sizes, plus you can zoom in and out on the screen and enlarge/shrink parts. The update only shows the middle size stage.

MercuryLS · Oct 30, 2007

This game is going to be the coolest shit ever, EVER.

When is it delayed to? With all the shit they're adding all the time I can patiently wait.

OliveJuice · Oct 30, 2007

Might do another, better version.

Tim-E · Oct 30, 2007

I don't know if it's been said before, but the Mario Bros. level idea made me think that this, too, definitely needs to be a level:

GamerSoul · Oct 30, 2007

OliveJuice said:
Might do another, better version.

How would you die? Destructable walls maybe?

I would make some stages but, i can't get them out of that freakin thing. :/

goomba · Oct 30, 2007

OMG a level editor, online play and 3rd party characters like Sonic and Snake.

This game is going to own this gen.

FunkyMunkey · Oct 30, 2007

Thoughts appreciated

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MercuryLS · Oct 30, 2007

FunkyMunkey said:
Thoughts appreciated .

Looks good, I always liked the simpler maps in SSB. Nice work.

Capndrake · Oct 30, 2007

Tim-E said:
I don't know if it's been said before, but the Mario Bros. level idea made me think that this, too, definitely needs to be a level:

<donkeykong>

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8413441&postcount=36498

Do it Sakurai.

Grampasso · Oct 30, 2007

I know it's OT, but is this thread a record on NeoGaf for replies/visits?
Anyway, what tool are you using to make your stages?

Meta-Knight · Oct 30, 2007

Here's a stage I just made. Can't wait to create it for real. This game's release date is way too far

Ril · Oct 30, 2007

So in the screenshots, it looks like there are only 3 background/block templates. That'd pretty AWFUL IMO. :/

Jiggy · Oct 30, 2007

epmode said:
Jiggy37 said:

Well, I could see how SF2 would be pretty easy to manage, but DOA4 presents a stronger case. Still, Smash has four players, items spawning, and more dynamic stages than DOA.

Click to expand...

So you're saying that Smash Bros+chat is somehow more complex and would require more bandwidth than any voice-chat-capable online game for any console? There's no way.

No, that's not at all what I'm saying. I said it was more complex than DOA4, and than other fighting games.
I have no idea about multiplayer games outside that genre since I usually don't play them. >_>

If voice chat is excluded, it'll be because Nintendo either doesn't want to make a Wii microphone (which is a little crazy, considering the amount of additional Wii peripherals) or because of their bizzare online philosophy. Remember the initial wi-fi annoucement?

This is just one Nintendo team and it might be disbanded after this game... I'm not sure how much the general company philosophy applies to Sakurai specifically, since he does basically everything that the rest of the company won't. Mario Kart is literally less than 10% as full-featured as Smash Bros., and that's a "flagship" sort of game.

But anyway, I think you're right that Nintendo's refusal to make a Wii microphone will ultimately be the obstacle to voice chat here.

superbank · Oct 30, 2007

Hopefully by February you guys will have your fill of pixel art.

Insaniac said:
hyrule castle 64 lives yay!

Awesome. Sakurai, we need tornados (or you could add the real level).

Tim-E · Oct 30, 2007

Capndrake said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8413441&postcount=36498

Do it Sakurai.

Damn, didn't see your post

Yes, Sakurai, do it. You're already doing everything else ever, these two stages won't hurt.

PkunkFury · Oct 30, 2007

Tim-E said:
I don't know if it's been said before, but the Mario Bros. level idea made me think that this, too, definitely needs to be a level:

this would be the reason they added ladders to Brawl

FunkyMunkey · Oct 30, 2007

MercuryLS said:
Looks good, I always liked the simpler maps in SSB. Nice work.

Me too. Thank you!

Meta-Knight said:
Here's a stage I just made. Can't wait to create it for real. This game's release date is way too far

I love it! Nice premise.

Zerodoppler · Oct 30, 2007

Sweet, now I can make crappy NES game replicas.

MrPing1000 · Oct 30, 2007

lol I just found out about level editor. Holy fuck

RagnarokX · Oct 30, 2007

This would probably be an insane stage

Holy Order Sol · Oct 30, 2007

My attempt at an asymmetrical stage. It was actually hard for me to do that. :lol I tend to do symmetrical stuff without even realizing it.
Anyway, I tried to make a stage with several distinct parts, kinda like Hyrule Castle, each of them could almost have been a single stage. Vertical movement for the two platforms on the lleft, the other two don't move and you can go through them. Characters who can wall jump should have a slight advantage when fighting in the bottom left part. If the option is available I intend to make most surfaces as slippery as that UFO in Fourside.

Meta-Knight · Oct 30, 2007

Holy Order Sol said:
My attempt at an asymmetrical stage. It was actually hard for me to do that. :lol I tend to do symmetrical stuff without even realizing it.
Anyway, I tried to make a stage with several distinct parts, kinda like Hyrule Castle, each of them could almost have been a single stage. Vertical movement for the two platforms on the lleft, the other two don't move and you can go through them. Characters who can wall jump should have a slight advantage when fighting in the bottom left part. If the option is available I intend to make most surfaces as slippery as that UFO in Fourside.

I think that would be a great stage, but I'd prefer if it was NOT slippy. Walking on the UFO in Fourside was more annoying than anything else.

MutFox · Oct 30, 2007

Here's one I made for fun...

I just wanted a lot of breakable stuff...
Anything that's narrow can be broken through.

(Except the moving platforms...)

Linkhero1 · Oct 30, 2007

MutFox said:
Here's one I made for fun...
I just wanted a lot of breakable stuff...
Anything that's narrow can be broken through.
(Except the moving platforms...)

I like it. If you make it I'll play with it.

Holy Order Sol · Oct 30, 2007

wtf the editor got updated ?
I should refresh more often. :lol

MutFox · Oct 30, 2007

Linkhero1 said:
I like it. If you make it I'll play with it.

Oh I'll be making it, maybe even day 1, if I can take a break from playing the actual game.

Crushed · Oct 30, 2007

Superior version to mine.

MutFox · Oct 30, 2007

&#1057 said:
Superior version to mine.

You Bastard...

CTLance · Oct 30, 2007

I'd probably break the game in doing so, but if the spikes "smash" characters while doing damage I'd make a square room with spikes pointing inwards and nearly no platforms, or only moving ones. Something closely resembling RagnarokXs' suggestion, only less platforms, no exit, and only spikes. You cannot die in this.

But you hopefully could reach insane speeds at 999%. Maybe even enough to clip you through the spikewall. The physics engine would likely go bonkers at one point, I expect interesting results.

Can't wait to mess with this game. On all accounts.

Linkhero1 · Oct 30, 2007

Made this one quickly:

HolyCheck · Oct 30, 2007

RagnarokX said:
This would probably be an insane stage

friendships would be ended

awesome stage.

Crushed · Oct 30, 2007

Here's a "normal" stage from me for once.

I thought it'd be pretty cool, anyway.

Holy Order Sol · Oct 30, 2007

&#1057 said:
Here's a "normal" stage from me for once.

I'd totally play that. Seems to allow some cool wall jump recoveries.

sc0la · Oct 30, 2007

CTLance said:
I'd probably break the game in doing so, but if the spikes "smash" characters while doing damage I'd make a square room with spikes pointing inwards and nearly no platforms, or only moving ones. Something closely resembling RagnarokXs' suggestion, only less platforms, no exit, and only spikes. You cannot die in this.

But you hopefully could reach insane speeds at 999%. Maybe even enough to clip you through the spikewall. The physics engine would likely go bonkers at one point, I expect interesting results.

Can't wait to mess with this game. On all accounts.

reminds me of ganondorfs break the targets stage on melee

ShockingAlberto · Oct 30, 2007

So in a twenty four hours, I've gone from "I'm pretty hyped for this, considering it will be great, but Mario Galaxy is first priority" to "HOLY FUCK WHY IS FEBRUARY SO FAR AWAY JUST LET ME PLAY IT"

Linkhero1 · Oct 30, 2007

ShockingAlberto said:
So in a twenty four hours, I've gone from "I'm pretty hyped for this, considering it will be great, but Mario Galaxy is first priority" to "HOLY FUCK WHY IS FEBRUARY SO FAR AWAY JUST LET ME PLAY IT"

Pretty much and this is going to be the only game that'll rape your soul.

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