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Matador Ivan Fandino killed in France bullfight.
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FreeMufasa
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Didn't know the French were on it too
LostCaress
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I hate bullfighting (still a lot of it in my country) and, unlike the bull, he chose to be in that arena. Still, I can't celebrate the death of a person, so I'll go with tragedy, but fuck bullfighters anyway.
StrawberryJam
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The whole thing is barbaric. No one should be happy that a man has died, but why does this still even happen?
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My only sympathy is with his family and the bulls.
Moose Biscuits
It would be extreamly painful...
I feel like it's only appropriate. It's man vs bull, the bull has to win at least some of the time.
Kill Your Masters
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Its a risk that comes with the job. And it's a disgusting and awful job. Can't really feel sorry or call it a tragedy, the bull acts in self defense and the Matador knows the risks of his job.
Bullfighting needs to be banned.
Bullfighting needs to be banned.
Chaos2Frozen
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Live by the Sword.
autumnleaf
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I can't feel any sympathy for something like this. If he weren't taking part in a prehistoric and barbaric ritual he'd still be here so it's on himself.
Southern France, Spanish Border, but more in land than Mediterranean... so yeah... basically same kind of "TRADITION HURDUUUUR!" shit fest and the politicians that take advantage of it to get reelected.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I'm hust gonna assume the bull got killed anyways and it's a hollow victory.
Basically. Of course it's dangerous. At some point people are gonna die.
DiipuSurotu
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It's sad.
Sad because when the bull wins, they not only kill it but also its mother cow in order to "end its lineage".
On the other hand, we should all realize that this bull lived a much, much more pleasant life than the beef we're all eating on a regular basis.
Sad because when the bull wins, they not only kill it but also its mother cow in order to "end its lineage".
On the other hand, we should all realize that this bull lived a much, much more pleasant life than the beef we're all eating on a regular basis.
Mister Wolf
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You get what you pay for.
I hope you guys are vegetarian.
otherwise you're the biggest hypocrites on earth.
At the end of the day, it's still an arena - 2 enter, at most one leaves.
And even if the odds are incredibly one-sided, i think every matador knows the risk of being wounded or killed.
I think the fact that, every so often, a matador tragically dies in the arena is what keeps the sport 'exciting' for those who choose to watch it.
Condolences to the family.
I'd love it if this sport / 'tradition' could finally be abolished.
Well, there is a difference between (quickly) killing for nourishment and slowly and painfully killing for entertainment. And i say that as someone who eats meat maybe 5 times a month :/
And even if the odds are incredibly one-sided, i think every matador knows the risk of being wounded or killed.
I think the fact that, every so often, a matador tragically dies in the arena is what keeps the sport 'exciting' for those who choose to watch it.
Condolences to the family.
I'd love it if this sport / 'tradition' could finally be abolished.
Well, there is a difference between (quickly) killing for nourishment and slowly and painfully killing for entertainment. And i say that as someone who eats meat maybe 5 times a month :/
Camper Van Beethoven
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Unless you're a vegetarian you don't really get any moral high ground condemning bullfighting
NoblesseOblige
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blame space
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wow some absolutely blistering takes so far
Zelenogorsk
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bullfighting is a load of bull
DiipuSurotu
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???
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What the fuck. If bull wins he should get a key to the city and put out to stud for the rest of his days. Game is rigged!
You don't need to be a saint to dislike an archaic practice that harms animals purely for entertainment. Would you also say that there's nothing wrong with paying to see dogfights, cockfights, and other types of animal abuse as long as you're not a vegetarian? Where's the moral high ground here, lads?
That doesn't make any kind of sense.
lol no there's no difference whatsoever
in both cases you kill an animal for your wellbeing, one is entertainment, one is nourishment, both can be covered in different ways that do not involve killing animals.
the death circumstances play no role here.
Unless you're vegan you don't really get any moral high ground telling meat eaters they can't get any moral high ground condemning bullfighting.
But seriously, you can't equate the torture of animals for sport to the (currently) necessary growing and killing of our own food supply.
NoblesseOblige
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These are asinine comments that basically amount to saying "unless you're perfect you can't ever criticize anyone".
again, i'm not a hard-core vegan, neither am i a strong proponent of the meat industry.
I just think that the way a cow is *cough* "processed" in a (responsible) slaughterhouse is being killed in a more humane way than a bull in the arena - and it's killed for a purpose beyond that of people watching and cheering as it dies painfully.
I do believe there's a certain nuance and i do believe you can strongly condemn one without condemning the other as harshly.
Like, if you were to kill me, i'd hope it'd be quickly and hopefully because you wanted to steal my cash and my shoes. And not just stab me and revel in inflicting pain on me :/
Do you think pit fighting is okay because you eat meat?
One of the disappointment I felt with En Marche was seeing a Torera candidate (and she'll be elected). Not surprised, though.
But yes, it's a small part of France, a minority in opinions, and it's not even a tradition (I mean, hasn't this been introduced only in the second part of the XIXth century?
On topic, I can't rejoice because of a death, it's sad... But since some people definding it says it's fair because people in the arena risk their lives, too, it'snot illogical it happens from time to time...
blame space
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a man (and a bull) is dead.
EDIT apparently a bull's entire genetic lineage
EDIT apparently a bull's entire genetic lineage
Well, countries with death penalty should reintroduce death by torture instead of using as painless methods as possible if only the result matter...
What the fuck?
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