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PoliGAF 2015 |OT| Keep Calm and Diablos On

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IA night will be fun.

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NeoXChaos

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Bernie's dead guys, right? Right? Right? Right? Hahaha. I can tell you what is wrong with Hillary. She doesn't campaign. She hits up private fundraisers and doesn't actively seek out Joe and Jill Voter. When she does campaign she tells you the answer to your question will be answered when she's President. You Hillary supporters should all start freaking out right now. Bernie at 35 without Biden. 30 is the ceiling? Right guys? Right? 30? Okay then.

You can have your moment. I will have mine on March 1st.
 

benjipwns

Banned
Biden: 43%
Hillary: 27%
Sanders: 24%
O'Malley: 4%
Webb: 2%
Chafee: -156%

Then the Joementium kicks in. He sweeps to the nomination and picks Paul Ryan as his running mate.
 

dramatis

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All this racket over the Dem results while I'm trying to read Republican results.

Both sides of the Dems got a boon out of this poll. 1) Bernie has gained a sizable amount of support in Iowa, but 2) it's at the 30% ceiling like some posters predicted.

Biden supporters seem to split pretty evenly.

Ben Carson is some ninja candidate here. What the heck is going on? Does he have ground game in Iowa?

Edit: lol just got to this section
Asked of both Democratic and Republican caucusgoers.
For each of the following, I’d like you to tell me if you feel happy with the way things are going, satisfied, unsatisfied, or mad as hell with the way things are going. (Rotate list.)
Pollsters having fun.
 

NeoXChaos

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They've got to be a little worried if he jumps in, if he does it around the 1st debate and gives a good enough performance he could very well be within striking distance.

sure but is this the trigger? I am not sure. The man is going to make it based off more personal than political. Last his personal friends checked he still is not the same.

Looking at that poll in detail. Where is the other 33%? 2). Suffolk had it 54-20. Polls are so weird these days. 3). Erasure there is nothing for us Hillary Supporters to panic over. Its still early and Bernie has yet to feel the bern of negative attack ads and opposition research thrown at him by Hillary(If the campaign chooses to do so) and the media.
 

benjipwns

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In this cycle, Sanders is attracting more first-time caucusgoers than Clinton. He claims 43 percent of their vote compared to 31 percent for Clinton. He also leads by 23 percentage points with the under-45 crowd and by 21 points among independent voters.
This is how she lost to Obama.

Wrap it up.

It's not like she'll make it to the first debate anyway since she'll be in jail.
 

dramatis

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What's really sad is how unaware you are of how iconic the Lana gif is. It also portraits perfectly the current situation of Hillary's campaign.
It's not iconic. The first time I saw you use it I didn't understand why you used it at all. That's why I randomly fired it back at you for no good reason, just like the way you used it.

This is iconic.
Learn the difference, I guess?
 
Based on Reddit/Twitter/etc...they clearly do. The comments stacking BLM at the time in defense of Bernie were blatantly racist.

I think all those people were upset that they didn't let Bernie speak. It's like going to a Lakers game expecting Kobe to play only to learn some people hit him with a pipe and now he's wrapped up in a cast.

The BLM people did themselves no favors calling the while progressives of Seattle racist. No one wants to hear that shit and what they said wasn't even productive. Telling a couple of lunatics to get off the stage when it's not their time to talk and calling them out for their insane comments is not racist. Try again Cheebs.
 
#westandwithgod

evangelical-conservative rally in SC today. lots of ted cruz, fuckabee and trump supporters plus some tea partiers trying to look intelligent wearing ben carson shirts.

watching some of the videos. cruz making a speech like he is a southern preacher...

they set up a choir on the steps of the state house... LMAO

so much ew. literally vomiting at these losers.
 
If we did it would be boring as fuck

So every other time ?
jk
maybe


I think all those people were upset that they didn't let Bernie speak. It's like going to a Lakers game expecting Kobe to play only to learn some people hit him with a pipe and now he's wrapped up in a cast.

The BLM people did themselves no favors calling the while progressives of Seattle racist. No one wants to hear that shit and what they said wasn't even productive. Telling a couple of lunatics to get off the stage when it's not their time to talk and calling them out for their insane comments is not racist. Try again Cheebs.

I think after the fact the event occurred many white progressives started having a paternalism attitude and telling some blacks what they should do and not do. I heard a lot of people went after black activists, but I didn't follow much about it. Maybe not racist , but it sure can look like it. But what I just explained it does seem to be an issue from white progressives( mostly Bernie supporters specifically) .
 

pigeon

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No that would be boring. I love my bernie adversaries. The rivalry is fun.

I find it pretty tedious, honestly. It's not a sports game. It's one thing to have genuine critiques of Bernie and why you don't think he should be the Democratic nominee, but it's another to just snipe back and forth about how "your" candidate will obviously win.

It's a good poll for Bernie, but still not great. He really needs to be winning both Iowa and New Hampshire -- they're two of his strongest states. He's got a solid lead in New Hampshire, but he's not really in striking distance yet in Iowa.

In the last poll, Bernie had 24% while 39% of respondents weren't sure about his favorability, which is a marker for people who haven't heard of him. In this poll he's down to 19% unsure, meaning that he's made an impression on over half the people who previously hadn't heard of him -- but he only picked up 6% of the vote, or about a quarter of the people who learned about him. At that rate, he's probably not going to beat Clinton.

I also got Bertram and Pigeon to back me up.

Just to be clear, I'm not backing you up so much as responding to poorly considered posts (which happen to disproportionately come from a few specific Sanders supporters) and expressing why I personally have made a decision to support Hillary.
 

NeoXChaos

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I find it pretty tedious, honestly. It's not a sports game. It's one thing to have genuine critiques of Bernie and why you don't think he should be the Democratic nominee, but it's another to just snipe back and forth about how "your" candidate will obviously win.

It's a good poll for Bernie, but still not great. He really needs to be winning both Iowa and New Hampshire -- they're two of his strongest states. He's got a solid lead in New Hampshire, but he's not really in striking distance yet in Iowa.

In the last poll, Bernie had 24% while 39% of respondents weren't sure about his favorability, which is a marker for people who haven't heard of him. In this poll he's down to 19% unsure, meaning that he's made an impression on over half the people who previously hadn't heard of him -- but he only picked up 6% of the vote, or about a quarter of the people who learned about him. At that rate, he's probably not going to beat Clinton.



Just to be clear, I'm not backing you up so much as responding to poorly considered posts (which happen to disproportionately come from a few specific Sanders supporters) and expressing why I personally have made a decision to support Hillary.

1.) You and your great analysis. You are correct. I think both campaigns got time to either right the ship or grow. It was to be expected. Thx for the explanation. I will leave future poll inquires to you.
2.) Okay
 

Wilsongt

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#westandwithgod

evangelical-conservative rally in SC today. lots of ted cruz, fuckabee and trump supporters plus some tea partiers trying to look intelligent wearing ben carson shirts.

watching some of the videos. cruz making a speech like he is a southern preacher...

they set up a choir on the steps of the state house... LMAO

so much ew. literally vomiting at these losers.

So much diversity!
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Anybody voting for Bernie Sanders is, in essence, voting for a republican president.
 
Anybody voting for Bernie Sanders is, in essence, voting for a republican president.

Funny last I heard Bernie was beating Bush in Florida 43 to 39 or something like that. Great to see you guys back to square one though: Bernie can't win a general election. That worked so well the first time.
 

benjipwns

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Even thinking about Bernie Sanders in a positive manner, is in essence, electing a Republican president and three-fourths Congressional majority.
 
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