Sho_Nuff82
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WB tends to be happy with these DC films before release. TDK, TDKR, MoS - they all get good pre-release buzz from the studio. It's not indicative of BO success or critical acclaim.
Fanboyisms are really strange to me, do you guys think the collective of Disney execs actually care how a movie two months removed from their next project does? If this is good and does well then it's a win for comic movies and the film industry in general. No one at marvel is losing any sleep over this.
It's a discussion board. Speculation will go either way and the negativity is largely DC's own fault for Man of Steel. I hope that this movie absolves the franchise but I feel the apocalyptic horsemen of DCGaf have a strong enough argument.No, that was a report (singular) that test audience reception had Warner execs nervous and "reconsidering their entire slate" with literally no other details involved.
And then people took that and ran with it. My god did they run with it.
In both directions, to be fair. That's where that "BvS might be too smart" speculation bit came from. But there were also more than a couple of people who immediately jumped on it to confirm their belief that the move and the DCEU as a whole was doooooooomed!
I really don't see how this isn't fair. There'll be a lot of crow to eat when this movie releases as I see 0% chance it's Man of Steel bad but I just don't like this air of people being excited for this movie whining about people being soothsayers, it happens to every film here regardless of Marvel, DC, etc... lots of people hate both franchises or only one. It's hard to tell.The report was that there was some nervousness that it would not be a crowd pleaser. McWeeny or whatever his name is then speculated that perhaps there would be a shakeup. Many on gaf jumped on that and ran with it.
Movies are made to turn a profit. Crappy movies that do well get sequels (Pirates of the Caribbean shows us that) so the notion of movies being canceled would mean that it was a financial failure. FF1 bombing led to FF2 disappearing from future plans, for example. Amazing Spider Man 1 sucking, but doing well financially did not prevent ASM2 from happening.
It's a discussion board. Speculation will go either way and the negativity is largely DC's own fault for Man of Steel. I hope that this movie absolves the franchise but I feel the apocalyptic horsemen of DCGaf have a strong enough argument.
The 'too smart' thing was good damage control though. People love movies that make them feel smart, look at Inception.
I really don't see how this isn't fair. There'll be a lot of crow to eat when this movie releases as I see 0% chance it's Man of Steel bad but I just don't like this air of people being excited for this movie whining about people being soothsayers, it happens to every film here regardless of Marvel, DC, etc... lots of people hate both franchises or only one. It's hard to tell.
How was the too smart thing damage control?It's a discussion board. Speculation will go either way and the negativity is largely DC's own fault for Man of Steel. I hope that this movie absolves the franchise but I feel the apocalyptic horsemen of DCGaf have a strong enough argument.
The 'too smart' thing was good damage control though. People love movies that make them feel smart, look at Inception.
I really don't see how this isn't fair. There'll be a lot of crow to eat when this movie releases as I see 0% chance it's Man of Steel bad but I just don't like this air of people being excited for this movie whining about people being soothsayers, it happens to every film here regardless of Marvel, DC, etc... lots of people hate both franchises or only one. It's hard to tell.
I think it will do better than SW globally, and almost domestically.
I doubt it'll come close. Maybe in the $500-$600 million range it if does really well. Globally is simply ridiculous.I think it will do better than SW globally, and almost domestically.
You think BvS is gonna make 2 billion?!?!
I could see it outgrossing Star Wars in foreign markets but no way will the total hit $2B.
The 'too smart' thing was good damage control though. People love movies that make them feel smart, look at Inception.
Okay, this is a bit odd. I never said it was doomed but a movie being bad and then s sequel by the same people isn't going to gain lots of random support. Also, I only know of about one friend who likes that movie, everyone else who I know disliked it. I also stated that I think this will be leagues better.The "hate" for Man of Steel is largely fabricated though. Yes it was divisive but only amongst professional critics. The general public liked it. Not as much as Avengers but it wasn't hated. That's not to say it was perfect or that everybody loved it but the evidence that Man of Steel "sucked" and the DCEU is "doomed" simply isn't there. It's like a story passed along where the original telling is warped so much it's no longer the same story.
Damage control from who? Batman-on-Film?
What do you mean 'who'? Reports said it was an executive. It was a way to sate DC fans by saying 'it's fine, they just don't get it'.How was the too smart thing damage control?
lol I'm sold. Movie must be disliked by the general audience if you only have one friend who likes it. Pack it up guys. MoS was trash.Okay, this is a bit odd. I never said it was doomed but a movie being bad and then s sequel by the same people isn't going to gain lots of random support. Also, I only know of about one friend who likes that movie, everyone else who I know disliked it. I also stated that I think this will be leagues better.
What do you mean 'who'? Reports said it was an executive. It was a way to sate DC fans by saying 'it's fine, they just don't get it'.
WB tends to be happy with these DC films before release. TDK, TDKR, MoS - they all get good pre-release buzz from the studio. It's not indicative of BO success or critical acclaim.
I think it will do better than SW globally, and almost domestically.
I could see it outgrossing Star Wars in foreign markets but no way will the total hit $2B.
You should write down all our names and posts and serve crow like that one fellow did for Ant-Man.
Okay, this is a bit odd. I never said it was doomed but a movie being bad and then s sequel by the same people isn't going to gain lots of random support. Also, I only know of about one friend who likes that movie, everyone else who I know disliked it. I also stated that I think this will be leagues better.
What do you mean 'who'? Reports said it was an executive. It was a way to sate DC fans by saying 'it's fine, they just don't get it'.
Well you sure went out on a limb there.If my prediction of this movie being garbage comes true, I can see the ticket sales tanking after OW.
If it defies my prediction and is a pretty decent movie(70% or higher on RT) I can see it pushing(but probably not breaking) some records.
There's no need to even do that much work, just open any bvs related thread on this forum in the past 3 years and choke on the astonishing idiocy on display on every single page.
Well you sure went out on a limb there.
Were you not the one that made the time to eat crow Ant man thread that got closed?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1081729&page=10
You dont get to Avatar quote man come on.
Well you sure went out on a limb there.
Were you not the one that made the time to eat crow Ant man thread that got closed?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1081729&page=10
You dont get to Avatar quote man come on
lmao Called the hell out
Here in SoCal, there seems to be significantly less ticket buying at the IMAX theaters I frequent. I remember when Star Wars came on sale, all of the middle portions of all IMAX screens were sold out that weekend.
For BVS, the best seats in the house are available at almost all IMAX showings that I checked, including the one and only 70mm real IMAX location.
Yeah The Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises were huge critical and commercial failures.
I can't. The Force Awakens made $1.12B overseas. The best all time showing for a comic flick is around $940M by Age of Ultron. DC's best was $640M by TDKR.
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WotActually you know what-I just looked at your post history. Yikes. Are you an alt account?
Actually you know what-I just looked at your post history. Yikes. Are you an alt account?
Actually you know what-I just looked at your post history. Yikes. Are you an alt account?
Let's wait to see how these movies turn out before dishing out the ether
Fanboyisms are really strange to me, do you guys think the collective of Disney execs actually care how a movie two months removed from their next project does? If this is good and does well then it's a win for comic movies and the film industry in general. No one at marvel is losing any sleep over this.
What do you mean 'who'? Reports said it was an executive. It was a way to sate DC fans by saying 'it's fine, they just don't get it'.
About quitters, are you guys getting people who quit before they're about to lose? Yesterday I had 2 guys quit during odd times. One guy quit right after I won the 2nd round. The other guy quit as he was getting pounded in the 1st round. And just a moment ago I had a guy quit during the start up screen. Honestly though I'd rather he bail before the match starts then waste my time with a match that he was going to quit anyways. Going on with the match and seeing that you're out matched and then bailing is a different story though.
About quitters, are you guys getting people who quit before they're about to lose? Yesterday I had 2 guys quit during odd times. One guy quit right after I won the 2nd round. The other guy quit as he was getting pounded in the 1st round. And just a moment ago I had a guy quit during the start up screen. Honestly though I'd rather he bail before the match starts then waste my time with a match that he was going to quit anyways. Going on with the match and seeing that you're out matched and then bailing is a different story though.