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Supernatural Season 11 |OT| No, seriously, it got awesome again.

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...What? WHAT?! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT?! Chuck...pls no ;_;. I like the whole Ying-Yang thing, but wouldn't locking her away still disrupt the balance, she's out of the picture, sure she has some of her darkness seep through but not like it was when she was around and kicking.

Also, did she bring the Sun closer to Earth or something?


Please dear Chuck no.


so much hate for Charlie D:

I loved Charlie and was sad when she was killed off, also thought her death was lazy and cheap. But - bringing her back from the dead would make her death even cheaper.

I picture her currently relaxing in heaven, reading comic books and playing video games. I think she's fine where she is.

True, I meant it more like spirit like he did with Kevin or just in Heaven :p.


God is not Dead!

I love that movie! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2528814/

Lucifer...dying holy shit, as much as it saddens me he's dead, his death was freaking epic. Way better than Deaths'...death.
Regarding Gabriel
I thought it was confirmed by the actor, and directors that Gabriel was still alive? Even if he could hide from his Angel buddies, how could he hide form God
 

Deadly

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Yeah Lucifer actually dying was lame. Why would Michael not be in shape? I guess Lucifer wrekt him in the cage? You'd think they'd be more on equal grounds...

Hopefully God isn't truly gone. He adds a fun dynamic
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Not a fan that Lucifer went out like a chump. They hyped up bringing him back, but he didn't really do much.

A problem arises when all this Is said and done and Lucy's still running around. I wonder if Gods gonna seal himself away with her so she won't be lonely, because they wouldn't seal Dean away somewhere again... I hope
 

bachikarn

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A problem arises when all this Is said and done and Lucy's still running around. I wonder if Gods gonna seal himself away with her so she won't be lonely, because they wouldn't seal Dean away somewhere again... I hope

I don't necessary disagree, but that goes to my point I said earlier: it's not as well planned as Season 1-5. That's OK though. Maybe the execution of his death also contributed to my dislike of it.

I think God being sealed with Amara makes sense. They tend to have cliff hanger endings though. Maybe God and Amara basically leaving and somewhat hitting the reset button would be such a cliff hanger.

I can't imagine either God or Amara dying after they made a big deal about Amara dying would be really bad for reality. The same logic should apply to God. Unless God was lying.
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
Well this is interesting, the whole time I was actually expecting dean to fuck everything up but then god just ended up getting rekt.

I am actually impressed they're going this all out for the end of the season, if this was season 7, 8, or 9 this would have actually been the season finale and just ended right there.

It's kinda weird, they made the darkness really sympathetic for a second right before she was about to be sealed away and then she just goes back to business as usual.

Lucifer going out like that was a shame but I guess it's not like supernatural can afford to do complex and intense fights really so I always forgive it (the show is always just immense amounts of build up to a battle that ends in like 4 punches and some one getting thrown across the room and then stabbed or shot), also was he using the spear of destiny? When was that acquired?

I'm expecting God and Amara to both die or be sealed away by this point because of the whole yin and yang thing, however I wouldn't be terribly surprised if only one of them does die and the set up to the next season is "oh shit the fabric of reality is crumbling and we need to figure out how to fix it!", I think that'd be really fun it would certainly make rowena and magic a very central focus of the whole thing and it looks like rowena might get a change of heart after this.
 

Somnia

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Supernatural always on the move.

Edit: The Originals getting pushed to a mid-season now. I'm guessing shorter season. Maybe 16 episodes?

I thought I read Originals will still be a full 23 episode order, but I could be wrong. Being mid-season would make more sense at 16.

Supernatural's audience always follows so makes sense for them lol
 
The idea of a few witches being equal to an archangel is a dumb idea. All witches everywhere? Maybe. But one? Nah.

And during the whole thing I was looking forward to seeing Lucifer doing his thing only to see him stab Amara through the back. I mean, seriously?

Now I'm hoping God is just some lower form that came out of the primordial cosmic ooze and there's something else beyond him. Because as it stands he seems a bit lightweight.
 

Somnia

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The idea of a few witches being equal to an archangel is a dumb idea. All witches everywhere? Maybe. But one? Nah.

And during the whole thing I was looking forward to seeing Lucifer doing his thing only to see him stab Amara through the back. I mean, seriously?

Now I'm hoping God is just some lower form that came out of the primordial cosmic ooze and there's something else beyond him. Because as it stands he seems a bit lightweight.

Didn't she combine her powers with other witches, like they channeled into her to make her more powerful?
 
Well shit, that was pretty bloody amazing. Not even rowena managed to ruin it, she was actually pretty good for a change.

And interesting direction they've gone with killing God. Not even sealing him, just straight up murder from Amara, who was a total badass when she got pissed.
 
And is Lucy dead? I mean, that's a shitty way to go out for such a good character. I guess I understand why, but it's disappointing if he's really dead and it was done in such an unmemorable way.
 
Didn't she combine her powers with other witches, like they channeled into her to make her more powerful?

A few of them. Like I said, I could accept it if she was channeling the power of all witches everywhere but not one (or a few as the case may be).

Well shit, that was pretty bloody amazing. Not even rowena managed to ruin it, she was actually pretty good for a change.

And interesting direction they've gone with killing God. Not even sealing him, just straight up murder from Amara, who was a total badass when she got pissed.
He's not quite dead yet.
 
Speaking of Death, though, I thought it was weird how Amara was saying that she was wishing for death when she was imprisoned, and yet when Dean asked her about Death when she was first released, she said she didn't know him. I'm sure this is just a writing oversight, but if not, someone is lying, since how would she understand the concept of death without Death being around?

EDIT: Oh, and since God and The Darkness can actually die, I guess, it also implies that Death should be at least as old as they are.
 

bachikarn

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Speaking of Death, though, I thought it was weird how Amara was saying that she was wishing for death when she was imprisoned, and yet when Dean asked her about Death when she was first released, she said she didn't know him. I'm sure this is just a writing oversight, but if not, someone is lying, since how would she understand the concept of death without Death being around?

EDIT: Oh, and since God and The Darkness can actually die, I guess, it also implies that Death should be at least as old as they are.

Was death literally the embodiment of death? People still die even with him gone. What does death even mean? I honestly don't think it's not completely well thought out.

Amara destroyed things God made before but was that really 'dying' in the context of being reaped etc? Seems like to be reaped there needs to be an after life.
 
Speaking of Death, though, I thought it was weird how Amara was saying that she was wishing for death when she was imprisoned, and yet when Dean asked her about Death when she was first released, she said she didn't know him. I'm sure this is just a writing oversight, but if not, someone is lying, since how would she understand the concept of death without Death being around?

EDIT: Oh, and since God and The Darkness can actually die, I guess, it also implies that Death should be at least as old as they are.

She was referring to two different kinds of deaths. Death the entity, and death the act of dying. They are not the same thing in this show. Since Death himself died, that means the act of dying is a phenomenon separate from him (plus, other reapers still exist and are still doing their jobs - so "death" as a phenomenon never went away). He might just have received the name "Death" because he was simply the first reaper or something.
 
I like how the angels have an Ion Cannon.

Host of Heaven used Hyperbeam...IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!

Well shit, that was pretty bloody amazing. Not even rowena managed to ruin it, she was actually pretty good for a change.

And interesting direction they've gone with killing God. Not even sealing him, just straight up murder from Amara, who was a total badass when she got pissed.

God aint dead yet. Amara wants him to see his creation be turned to ash(I think she means literal ash, I have a feeling she brought the Sun closer to Earth or like increased its heat or something.)

And is Lucy dead? I mean, that's a shitty way to go out for such a good character. I guess I understand why, but it's disappointing if he's really dead and it was done in such an unmemorable way.

Him dying is shitty, but at least we saw him die UNLIKE ANOTHER CHARACTER! And he was bested by his aunt. Plus his death was pretty cool in terms of effects. I'll miss you Lucifer :(. I don't think God can even bring him back, since Lucifer was pretty evil and it would be off for God to create something evil.

I don't see why God wouldn't be able to fix Michael, since He just fixed up Lucifer in the previous episode.

Physical wounds can heal much easier than mental wounds. Michael must be mentally tormented.
 

Joni

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They are really going all-out this season. The angels are the only thing that remain bad. They only managed to score with the heavenly cannon, but the unnamed scraps are simply not interesting. Just kill them all, only leave Castiel.
 

Starfield

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I love the fact that demons, angels and witches were fighting along side each other but that "final fight" looked so damn cheap...

You got such massive powers and all you do is a lil flash here, some bright lights there and a few Lost smokey monsters to fly around her like a goddamn annoying moscito.


Speaking of powers, why didn't they brought all these wannabe gods with them to the fight (you know the ones that always get killed by Sam and Dean aka greek/egyptian gods, etc.)


Lucifer in Season 5 felt like a much bigger, stronger and scarier threat than Miss Dramaqueen.
 

Wilsongt

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I love the fact that demons, angels and witches were fighting along side each other but that "final fight" looked so damn cheap...

You got such massive powers and all you do is a lil flash here, some bright lights there and a few Lost smokey monsters to fly around her like a goddamn annoying moscito.


Speaking of powers, why didn't they brought all these wannabe gods with them to the fight (you know the ones that always get killed by Sam and Dean aka greek/egyptian gods, etc.)


Lucifer in Season 5 felt like a much bigger, stronger and scarier threat than Miss Dramaqueen.

God sealed Luci's power when he healed him.
It's possible his powers were still sealed when he got Amara'd.
 

TimFL

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God sealed Luci's power when he healed him.
It's possible his powers were still sealed when he got Amara'd.

I don't think so. I guess it was more or less God preventing Lucifer from using his powers against the brothers. Probably like the S7 Godstiel clipping Raphaels wings.

Was pretty bummed by how the episode ended... I wanted to see God fight or defend himself but he went out like a weakling. Maybe it is all part of his plan, that's the only way I'd accept the weak portrayal during the confrontation.

My guess (pure speculation):
- God saw this coming all along and he allowed Amara to "kill/hurt" him
- God's real plan was the spirit bomb + Dean carrying said bomb to Amara
- Amara "loves" Dean and wont hurt him when he goes and confronts her with the spirit bomb
- Possible peace for our time or whatever

Would explain the sad look on Metatrons face.


But this is how I REALLY want it to go down:
- God is kind of a trickster and just acted like Amara hurts/kills him for more drama in his "TV Show"
- Final episode/next season has God giggling and confronting Amara again, going all "you can't hurt me sis this is my playground, my rules"

OR

- end the series with Sam waking up to heat of the moment, Gabriel laughing in the distance

Please bring back Gabriel.
 

tirminyl

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A few of them. Like I said, I could accept it if she was channeling the power of all witches everywhere but not one (or a few as the case may be).

Part of me feels that there is a missing explanation of them all being powerful and using a book of the damned sith lightning spell.

I enjoyed this episode, but I have gotten used to the fights being lame.
 

Magwik

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I have a feeling since you can't have one without the other, both god and Amara will end up locked away. She won't be alone like last time, and it would parallel the S5 ending. Have both brothers carry the respective mark.
 
Hopefully Amara wiped out all the witches so we'll never have to see them again. Should have gotten vampires and werewolves in on it, too.

I assume she already took out leviathans off-screen.
 

dabig2

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God and Lucifer went out too easy and it was a little anticlimactic. Turns out that missing 3 archangels is kind of a big deal. I wonder what Death could have brought to the table if he was still around.
 
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