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[Psycho_Mantis]

What bothers me about this is that Itachi would never support Sasuke.

He should have been the last hand on Naruto's side since he entrusted Sasuke's redemption to Naruto.



The Sage only gave them new abilities to use. As far as their powers went, Naruto was way, way, waaay ahead of Sasuke.

Sage Mode Naruto would beat EMS Sasuke, KCM Naruto would wreck, and it wouldn't even be fair if you'd consider BM Naruto, or BSM Naruto in that equation since at that point he was deflecting multiple Bijuudama bare-handed.

Kishimoto very clearly nerfed Naruto by the time he came to blows with Sasuke because he'd been layering so many power-ups on Naruto it just wasn't a fair fight at that point, and even then Naruto held back right up until the point Sasuke used the power of all the bijuu.

EoS Naruto vs EoS Sasuke was basically SSJ3 Goku vs Majin Vegeta.

EMS Sasuke is in another league compared to SM Naruto lol

Kishimoto very clearly nerfed both characters. Sasuke was unable to use much of the rinnegan's ability such as absorbing chakra and his S/T jutsu was severely restricted.

The claims that Sasuke needed all the Bijuu to match Naruto are hilarious considering Sasuke used it once, BPS was above anything Naruto's Asura avatar could do and Naruto has had all 9 bijuu in him for a long time.

 

[jorgejjvr]

EMS Sasuke is in another league compared to SM Naruto lol

Kishimoto very clearly nerfed both characters. Sasuke was unable to use much of the rinnegan's ability such as absorbing chakra and his S/T jutsu was severely restricted.

The claims that Sasuke needed all the Bijuu to match Naruto are hilarious considering Sasuke used it once, BPS was above anything Naruto's Asura avatar could do and Naruto has had all 9 bijuu in him for a long time.

Bruh

Naruto > Sasuke easy.

Not even a contest.

 

[Rumblebones]

EMS Sasuke is in another league compared to SM Naruto lol

Kishimoto very clearly nerfed both characters. Sasuke was unable to use much of the rinnegan's ability such as absorbing chakra and his S/T jutsu was severely restricted.

The claims that Sasuke needed all the Bijuu to match Naruto are hilarious considering Sasuke used it once, BPS was above anything Naruto's Asura avatar could do and Naruto has had all 9 bijuu in him for a long time.

Bruh. SM Naruto would beat EMS Sasuke by virtue of his Rasenshuriken and Frog Kata alone. The fuck is Sasuke gonna do with an eye inferior to the Rinnegan that SM Naruto already beat? Never even mind if Naruto used Frog Song, at which point Sasuke would be beyond fucked.

Kishimoto very clearly nerfed Naruto you mean. You know, by having him fight almost non-stop for 24 hours, during which time

• Naruto maintained dozens of clones that took up portions of his chakra in order to turn the tide on all fronts by taking out countless White Zetsu clones and Edo Tensei
• fought several Kage level Edo Tensei himself
• fought Obito and the bijuu
• fought Obito & Madara & Juubi whilst simultaenously providing chakra cloaks and protections to thousands upon thousands of shinobi
• fought Sage Madara
• fought Kaguya in a hard-fought battle where he easily did most of the heavy lifting and didn't actually need Sasuke aside from helping him seal Kaguya

Compared to this, Sasuke did what - take out the original White Zetsu, stand on the sidelines whilst Itachi merked Kabuto, and occasionally pitched in the odd jutsu or Susano'o boost when he joined the war?

There is no comparison to draw here. Sasuke was fresh as a daisy compared to Naruto.

Sasuke had access to pretty much all the chakra of bijuu whereas Naruto only had small portions of each. In the end, he only used SoSP mode + additional natural energy gathered by a clone and Kurama to beat BPS Sasuke - who at that time acknowledged he was finally serious.

I get Sasuke is your boy and all that, but you gotta recognise that by the end of the series, Naruto and Sasuke were only rivals in an ideological sense. Like Madara and Hashirama, one was clearly stronger than the other, however in the case of Naruto and Sasuke, the gap was vast and had to be minimised for the sake of suspense.

 

[ChaosZeroX]

Bruh. SM Naruto would beat EMS Sasuke by virtue of his Rasenshuriken and Frog Kata alone. The fuck is Sasuke gonna do with an eye inferior to the Rinnegan that SM Naruto already beat? Never even mind if Naruto used Frog Song, at which point Sasuke would be beyond fucked.

Kishimoto very clearly nerfed Naruto you mean. You know, by having him fight almost non-stop for 24 hours, during which time

• Naruto maintained dozens of clones that took up portions of his chakra in order to turn the tide on all fronts by taking out countless White Zetsu clones and Edo Tensei
• fought several Kage level Edo Tensei himself
• fought Obito and the bijuu
• fought Obito & Madara & Juubi whilst simultaenously providing chakra cloaks and protections to thousands upon thousands of shinobi
• fought Sage Madara
• fought Kaguya in a hard-fought battle where he easily did most of the heavy lifting and didn't actually need Sasuke aside from helping him seal Kaguya

Compared to this, Sasuke did what - take out the original White Zetsu, stand on the sidelines whilst Itachi merked Kabuto, and occasionally pitched in the odd jutsu or Susano'o boost when he joined the war?

There is no comparison to draw here. Sasuke was fresh as a daisy compared to Naruto.

Sasuke had access to pretty much all the chakra of bijuu whereas Naruto only had small portions of each. In the end, he only used SoSP mode + additional natural energy gathered by a clone and Kurama to beat BPS Sasuke - who at that time acknowledged he was finally serious.

I get Sasuke is your boy and all that, but you gotta recognise that by the end of the series, Naruto and Sasuke were only rivals in an ideological sense. Like Madara and Hashirama, one was clearly stronger than the other, however in the case of Naruto and Sasuke, the gap was vast and had to be minimised for the sake of suspense.

And were done here folks lol

Its obvious Naruto is far above Sasuke

 

[jorgejjvr]

After watching it multiple times... That voice acting

Over, and over again

Perfectly executed

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Bruh. SM Naruto would beat EMS Sasuke by virtue of his Rasenshuriken and Frog Kata alone. The fuck is Sasuke gonna do with an eye inferior to the Rinnegan that SM Naruto already beat? Never even mind if Naruto used Frog Song, at which point Sasuke would be beyond fucked.

Kishimoto very clearly nerfed Naruto you mean. You know, by having him fight almost non-stop for 24 hours, during which time

• Naruto maintained dozens of clones that took up portions of his chakra in order to turn the tide on all fronts by taking out countless White Zetsu clones and Edo Tensei
• fought several Kage level Edo Tensei himself
• fought Obito and the bijuu
• fought Obito & Madara & Juubi whilst simultaenously providing chakra cloaks and protections to thousands upon thousands of shinobi
• fought Sage Madara
• fought Kaguya in a hard-fought battle where he easily did most of the heavy lifting and didn't actually need Sasuke aside from helping him seal Kaguya

Compared to this, Sasuke did what - take out the original White Zetsu, stand on the sidelines whilst Itachi merked Kabuto, and occasionally pitched in the odd jutsu or Susano'o boost when he joined the war?

There is no comparison to draw here. Sasuke was fresh as a daisy compared to Naruto.

Sasuke had access to pretty much all the chakra of bijuu whereas Naruto only had small portions of each. In the end, he only used SoSP mode + additional natural energy gathered by a clone and Kurama to beat BPS Sasuke - who at that time acknowledged he was finally serious.

I get Sasuke is your boy and all that, but you gotta recognise that by the end of the series, Naruto and Sasuke were only rivals in an ideological sense. Like Madara and Hashirama, one was clearly stronger than the other, however in the case of Naruto and Sasuke, the gap was vast and had to be minimised for the sake of suspense.

So many things wrong here that its almost like a parody but I'll address them.

Rasenshuriken is nothing compared to even an incomplete Susanno let alone Perfect.

SM Naruto got beaten by Pain easily. Sasuke's rinnegan is far above Pain's for the simple fact that its actually his rinnegan (Pain was using Madara's).

I'm sure there's a reason why you have conveniently left out Sasuke fighting Obito, Madara, Juubi and Kaguya and Naruto being rejuvenated numerous times throughout the arc by Sakura, the bijuu and Sage of 6 Paths but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I'm also sure there's a reason why you ignore Naruto having the chakra reserves of Kurama but also the other tailed beasts partially, while Sasuke is solo.

Sasuke only took a part of the bijuus power, funnily enough something Naruto has had the entire time as well as having a complete bijuu in him.

Ahh yes, in the end, Naruto only needed to resort to his strongest attack in his strongest form, with the help of Kurama who absorbed all the natural energy above the surface (refer to manga) to stalemate Sasuke.

Please. Naruto couldn't beat Sasuke even if he wanted to.

 

[jorgejjvr]

So many things wrong here that its almost like a parody but I'll address them.

Rasenshuriken is nothing compared to even an incomplete Susanno let alone Perfect.

SM Naruto got beaten by Pain easily. Sasuke's rinnegan is far above Pain's for the simple fact that its actually his rinnegan (Pain was using Madara's).

I'm sure there's a reason why you have conveniently left out Sasuke fighting Obito, Madara, Juubi and Kaguya and Naruto being rejuvenated numerous times throughout the arc by Sakura, the bijuu and Sage of 6 Paths but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I'm also sure there's a reason why you ignore Naruto having the chakra reserves of Kurama but also the other tailed beasts partially, while Sasuke is solo.

Sasuke only took a part of the bijuus power, funnily enough something Naruto has had the entire time as well as having a complete bijuu in him.

Ahh yes, in the end, Naruto only needed to resort to his strongest attack in his strongest form, with the help of Kurama who absorbed all the natural energy above the surface (refer to manga) to stalemate Sasuke.

Please. Naruto couldn't beat Sasuke even if he wanted to.

Let's ask Sasuke

Oh right he admits that... You know.

Naruto was holding back, and yet they were ALMOST on par. Imagine if he did not hold back.

 

[Rumblebones]

So many things wrong here that its almost like a parody but I'll address them.

Mate, read your own posts. Better yet, read the manga. I'll get to your responses as I go point by point but from skimming through it's apparent you're so completely wrong on so many points I think you're misremembering what actually happened.

Rasenshuriken is nothing compared to even an incomplete Susanno let alone Perfect.

You mean the incomplete Susano'o that was getting tooled by the Gokage who took turns shitting on Sasuke when he got it in his head he could take them all on? SM Naruto would break that thing like nothing using only taijutsu, and not even necessarily Frog Kata.

Rasenshuriken would tear through that shit easily. I dunno what form of Susano'o you're referring to by Perfect, but if it's the Susano'o he showed when taking out those White Zetsu, that form wouldn't take more than a couple, and Naruto has more chakra than he knows what to do with.

SM Naruto got beaten by Pain easily. Sasuke's rinnegan is far above Pain's for the simple fact that its actually his rinnegan (Pain was using Madara's).

Funny, I don't recall Pain surviving by the end of their conflict.

We're not comparing Rinnegan between Sasuke and Nagato. We're comparing EMS Sasuke to SM Naruto, and SM Naruto beat a much more experienced and skilled Rinnegan user.

I'm sure there's a reason why you have conveniently left out Sasuke fighting Obito, Madara, Juubi and Kaguya and Naruto being rejuvenated numerous times throughout the arc by Sakura, the bijuu and Sage of 6 Paths but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I didn't leave out anything. I acknowledged he provided back up, but that didn't amount to much. Against Obito, his biggest contribution was summoning Aoda and firing an Enton arrow. Against Madara he fought judiciously, not caring whether anyone else but Naruto would die - and at that point Naruto definitely didn't need his protection and was in fact protecting Kakashi and Sakura, whilst also, once again, doing most of the heavily lifting in neutralising Madara's meteorite shower.

Don't get me started on the Kaguya fight. Sasuke was a glorified cheerleader. His Susano'o wasn't worth shit. Naruto was working Kaguya by himself.

As for the rejuvenation? What rejuvenation? Sakura healed Naruto for a bit at one point when he was hurt, but only to the point where he could fight again, and saved him from dying at another point during which he got his bijuu/Sage power up, but at no point did Naruto actually get rejuvenated. He got new abilities and didn't die. That didn't mean he woke up 100% fresh and ready to go. If it did, Kurama wouldn't have mentioned the fact he was exhausted from all the fighting during the final battle. At most, Naruto got a pick me up along the way.

I'm also sure there's a reason why you ignore Naruto having the chakra reserves of Kurama but also the other tailed beasts partially, while Sasuke is solo.

Naruto relied on Kurama's chakra reserves as well his own, and regardless of whose chakra he was using at the time, the fatigue of performing and maintaining jutsu was a toll he paid with his body.

Sasuke has immense chakra reserves but he didn't go out of his way to expend any. He certainly had no intention of taking on the burden of protecting anyone but himself, and later Naruto when it became clear he would need him to undo the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Sasuke only took a part of the bijuus power, funnily enough something Naruto has had the entire time as well as having a complete bijuu in him.

Bruh. It's stated clearly in the manga Sasuke drew directly upon the bijuu's chakra. He had complete access to all of it save the small portions they had given to Naruto.

Ahh yes, in the end, Naruto only needed to resort to his strongest attack in his strongest form, with the help of Kurama who absorbed all the natural energy above the surface (refer to manga) to stalemate Sasuke.

This does not help your argument at all. Naruto needing only his strongest form and an additional boost from a clone & Kurama gathering natural energy to counter the combined power of Sasuke and all the remaining bijuu is damn impressive and the biggest testament to the power difference the manga ever gave us.

Please. Naruto couldn't beat Sasuke even if he wanted to.

This some straight up stan shit right here.

 

[JadedWriter]

Well, you would think the same would happen again against Killer B, yeah? He would still have numerous swords to keep track of. I just think it was more a matter of Sasuke not being able to keep up with Killer B's swordplay with his Sharingan at the time. If he fought him again, I think he would perform much better with just his base Sharingan and Taijutsu.

Sasuke can use base Sharingan and Taijutsu against Guy. I think Guy can still take him. Madara put Guy over for a reason.

I think what happened with Sasuke the first time is that he just didn't know how to read Killer Bee case Killer fights in a way that is alien to a lot of the people that Sasuke has fought previously. After fighting him the first time Sasuke would have a much better idea on how to avoid and how to prioritize Bee's moveset. Bee break danced flailed, you don't just fight that and win your first time out. Didn't Madara beat guy cause Madara was broken as fuck?

 

[Camoxide]

The Bee vs Sasuke fight was hilarious. Bee killed Sasuke twice (he'd be dead if it wasn't for his hax friends) got his ass saved a third time only to capture a tentacle.

 

[JadedWriter]

The Bee vs Sasuke fight was hilarious. Bee killed Sasuke twice (he'd be dead if it wasn't for his hax friends) got his ass saved a third time only to capture a tentacle.

"I can't handle dis shit. Respawn me bitch!" "AHHHH Sawske!!! Bite me!!"

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Mate, read your own posts. Better yet, read the manga. I'll get to your responses as I go point by point but from skimming through it's apparent you're so completely wrong on so many points I think you're misremembering what actually happened.

Just stop with the pretense that you have effectively read the manga because nothing you say is supported by it.

You mean the incomplete Susano'o that was getting tooled by the Gokage who took turns shitting on Sasuke when he got it in his head he could take them all on? SM Naruto would break that thing like nothing using only taijutsu, and not even necessarily Frog Kata.

Rasenshuriken would tear through that shit easily. I dunno what form of Susano'o you're referring to by Perfect, but if it's the Susano'o he showed when taking out those White Zetsu, that form wouldn't take more than a couple, and Naruto has more chakra than he knows what to do with.

It was specifically noted that the kage meeting was Sasuke's first time using Susanoo and that it was an incomplete form....heck it was just the ribcage lol.

What the kages fought:

What the kages failed to fight (incomplete):

Perfect Susanoo:

Incomplete susanoo can tank Kirin, perfect Susanoo can fly by bijuu rasenshurikens......SM Naruto is not even a consideration for the league EMS Sasuke is in.

Funny, I don't recall Pain surviving by the end of their conflict.

Acting dense are we? I said SM Naruto got defeated by Pain easily.

It was Kurama who fought Pain and the only reason Pain lost against Kurama was due to his deteriorating health and condition. Oh and Minato coming in to save Naruto from loosing himself.

We're not comparing Rinnegan between Sasuke and Nagato. We're comparing EMS Sasuke to SM Naruto, and SM Naruto beat a much more experienced and skilled Rinnegan user.

Pain beat SM Naruto. Easily.

I didn't leave out anything. I acknowledged he provided back up, but that didn't amount to much. Against Obito, his biggest contribution was summoning Aoda and firing an Enton arrow. Against Madara he fought judiciously, not caring whether anyone else but Naruto would die - and at that point Naruto definitely didn't need his protection and was in fact protecting Kakashi and Sakura, whilst also, once again, doing most of the heavily lifting in neutralising Madara's meteorite shower.

Conveniently leaves out Sasuke using Ameno to stab Madara and slice Madara in half, more than anything Naruto accomplished. Or how many times Sasuke used Enton and Amaterasu against Obito and the Juubi.

Don't get me started on the Kaguya fight. Sasuke was a glorified cheerleader. His Susano'o wasn't worth shit. Naruto was working Kaguya by himself.

Conveniently forgets Sasuke using Ameno numerous times to execute the attacks and saving Naruto several times.
Also seems to forget how Naruto has Kurama reserves as well as 8 other tailed beasts partially within him while Sasuke has none.

As for the rejuvenation? What rejuvenation? Sakura healed Naruto for a bit at one point when he was hurt, but only to the point where he could fight again, and saved him from dying at another point during which he got his bijuu/Sage power up, but at no point did Naruto actually get rejuvenated. He got new abilities and didn't die. That didn't mean he woke up 100% fresh and ready to go. If it did, Kurama wouldn't have mentioned the fact he was exhausted from all the fighting during the final battle. At most, Naruto got a pick me up along the way.

Keep telling yourself that. I simply said Naruto got numerous replenishments throughout the arc, unlike Sasuke. They were both said to be tired at the beginning of the fight.

Sakura heals Naruto from barely being able to stand to being back on the frontlines

Obito inserting another Kurama into Naruto and reviving him

Obito also inserted part chakra of 8 other tailed beasts

Naruto relied on Kurama's chakra reserves as well his own, and regardless of whose chakra he was using at the time, the fatigue of performing and maintaining jutsu was a toll he paid with his body.

Point here being Naruto needs Kurama to even begin matching Sasuke.

Sasuke has immense chakra reserves but he didn't go out of his way to expend any. He certainly had no intention of taking on the burden of protecting anyone but himself, and later Naruto when it became clear he would need him to undo the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

The amount of times Sasuke used Ameno clearly affected his eye later and Sauske was also nerfed by saying his rinnegan was new:

Bruh. It's stated clearly in the manga Sasuke drew directly upon the bijuu's chakra. He had complete access to all of it save the small portions they had given to Naruto.

He evidently did not use all the bijuu chakra otherwise they would be dead.

This does not help your argument at all. Naruto needing only his strongest form and an additional boost from a clone & Kurama gathering natural energy to counter the combined power of Sasuke and all the remaining bijuu is damn impressive and the biggest testament to the power difference the manga ever gave us.

Only his strongest form...
where he has all bijuu chakra in him...
plus clones of his strongest form and Kurama spending time to gather all the natural energy above the surface....
to counter one Indra Arrow with all the remaining bijuu chakra. Once again this just shows whats been said in the manga:

Sasuke + all remaining bijju chakra = Naruto + Kurama + all the natural energy above the surface + parts of all bijuu chakra
which is effectively

Sasuke = Naruto + Kurama

This some straight up stan shit right here.

Come back when you actually read the manga and stop making it up.

 

[KeRaSh]

Loving the last few episodes. Don't really care who's meta-stronger but Sasuke's wann-be-evil emo shtick is getting really old.
Hopefully Naruto rightfully puts him in his place next week.
Is it known how many episodes are left until the end of the anime?

 

[Akai__]

Loving the last few episodes. Don't really care who's meta-stronger but Sasuke's wann-be-evil emo shtick is getting really old.
Hopefully Naruto rightfully puts him in his place next week.
Is it known how many episodes are left until the end of the anime?

According to newest information they will have fillers again. We don't know, if those Fillers will come after adopting the last Manga chapter or before it, though. To end the anime (the canon part of it), they still need to do half of Chapter 698, Chapter 699 and Chapter 700.

 

[KeRaSh]

According to newest information they will have fillers again. We don't know, if those Fillers will come after adopting the last Manga chapter or before it, though. To end the anime (the canon part of it), they still need to do half of Chapter 698, Chapter 699 and Chapter 700.

Oh wow, that seems awfully close. I really hope they just wrap it up but why would they air fillers after the manga story is completed? How many episodes do they usuall do per manga chapter?

 

[VariantX]

According to newest information they will have fillers again. We don't know, if those Fillers will come after adopting the last Manga chapter or before it, though. To end the anime (the canon part of it), they still need to do half of Chapter 698, Chapter 699 and Chapter 700.

To be frank, filler should have taken place either pre or post The Last. You get another 3 year time skip annd a 10+year time skip, perfect places for filler All those time skips an they choose to drag ot a story arc that should have ended well over a year ago. That mugen tsukuyomi filler would have been tolerable had it stuck to just the perspective of Tsunade and ended in 5-6 episodes.

 

[Akai__]

Oh wow, that seems awfully close. I really hope they just wrap it up but why would they air fillers after the manga story is completed? How many episodes do they usuall do per manga chapter?

It varies. I think there were times, when they could fit in 3 chapters into 1 episode, but then you also have 1.5 - 2 chapters in 1 episode. Just depends on if they use flashbacks or other fillers, in the same episode.

For the next episode, they could probably very easily fit in the last half of 698 and the full 699. We just don't know what to expect afterwards.

All those time skips an they choose to drag ot a story arc that should have ended well over a year ago. That mugen tsukuyomi filler would have been tolerable had it stuck to just the perspective of Tsunade and ended in 5-6 episodes.

All of the Mugen Tsukuyomi stuff was bullshit, just like the Jiraiya Scrolls alternative universe. Completely useless fillers that didn't add anything to the story. And just LOL at how they tried to justify that with "we didn't know when the Manga will end". Sure, you didn't know that the Manga ended 2 years ago.

 

[rambis]

Lol PM goes at lengths to twist shit in the manga. Sasuke could only match Naruto when he was pulling chakra from the 9 bijuu, which he could only do a very small portion of that fight. The bijuu arent his, he isnt a Jin.

Naruto countered Sasukes strongest attack with techniques that are his. If Naruto wanted to do he could do that super SM attack again.

There's a reason why Sasuke starting pouting after seeing Naruto power up. Narutos power was literally beyond his comprehension.

 

[Mendrox]

Dont discuss with PM. He is crazy about Sasuke and he can even make Sakura not look useless. Its a waste of time and everyone knows that Naruto could have easily won.

 

[Dr.Hadji]

Loved the episodes blah blah blah.

But I have to say one thing that really surprised me was how good the voice acting is. Which is strange because that's something I almost never notice in Japanese.

Hardly any of this.
Instead, Sasuke came off as sounding very tired. Tired of having Naruto come back time and time again which lead to the fantastic "Nandomo Nandomo Nandomo !!" tirade at the end of the fight.

Also, the acting without words was great as well.

Worldless scenes that pack that amount of feels into a scene without fighting is a rare thing in serial anime. Naruto's expression was spot on perfect.

 

[JadedWriter]

Yeah I loved Sasuke's Nandomo scene, thought it was fantastic.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Lol reading this page was great. I stan for sanji in one piece mad hard but when you can't admit that someone's stronger than perhaps turn the stan down a bit.

Naruto>Everyone

 

[JadedWriter]

Lol reading this page was great. I stan for sanji in one piece mad hard but when you can't admit that someone's stronger than perhaps turn the stan down a bit.

Naruto>Everyone

Mantis was just keeping true to his Nindo way.

 

[GravityInsanity]

Lol reading this page was great. I stan for sanji in one piece mad hard but when you can't admit that someone's stronger than perhaps turn the stan down a bit.

Naruto>Everyone

Sorry buddy but it's Sakura>Everyone!

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Sorry buddy but it's Sakura>Everyone!

In my world it's shikamaru>everyone

 

[theWB27]

Crazy...even SASUKE himself said Naruto was holding back yet Mantis still thinks otherwise.

Oh..reading the other comments I see now. Can't convince someone who doesn't care about the facts. Love sasuke though.

For the record....Jaraiya> everyone

 

[JadedWriter]

In my world it's shikamaru>everyone

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Should've been hokage
He was robbed

 

[JadedWriter]

Should've been hokage
He was robbed

Yeah really and I'm pretty sure he still would've found time to be a better...um I can't complete this sentence in this thread.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Yeah really and I'm pretty sure he still would've found time to be a better...um I can't complete this sentence in this thread.

Don't do it lol it'll turn into a drag
Touchy subject in the other thread too

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I haven't watched the anime in a good couple of years. Was sick of how it wasn't doing the manga justice but it sounds like the final few episodes have done just that. Will watch. Super excited.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Lads please. I know many of you don't read the manga (even though some of you claim you have), so I'll give you the benefit of doubt. Also I suggest you take those scanned pages with watermarks down, unless you want to get banned.

Crazy...even SASUKE himself said Naruto was holding back yet Mantis still thinks otherwise.

Oh..reading the other comments I see now. Can't convince someone who doesn't care about the facts. Love sasuke though.

For the record....Jaraiya> everyone

See, I don't want to single you out, but I'm afraid this is the mentality many of you have, ironically claiming facts while saying nothing related to the facts.

Sasuke dominated Naruto at the beginning, that was when he told Naruto to stop holding back.

Fast forward and he acknowledges Naruto finally getting serious just before he fires Indra's arrow and Naruto uses his strongest attack. Naruto ain't holding anything back here.

I get it. Some of you wish Naruto dominated the fight. Too bad that never happened.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Lads please. I know many of you don't read the manga (even though some of you claim you have), .

Is this guy serious right now or is this a joke help me out guys

 

[JadedWriter]

I was hyped every time Sasuke hit Naruto with a two piece combo. Naruto's the protagonist but Sasuke has and always will be the better fighter.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I was hyped every time Sasuke hit Naruto with a two piece combo. Naruto's the protagonist but Sasuke has and always will be the better fighter.

It's the fighting styles I love sasukes fights because of how he fights. Shikamaru has the fighting style tho Xp

 

[JadedWriter]

It's the fighting styles I love sasukes fights because of how he fights. Shikamaru has the fighting style tho Xp

Shikamaru's got one thing and he uses his giant ass brain to make it work best for him. He didn't get enough moments towards the end. It was like Kishi was done with him after the Kakazu and Hidan fights, though those are still some of the very best with Kakashi joining in.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Is this guy serious right now or is this a joke help me out guys

This is an anime only thread so I don't expect many to have read the entirety of the manga. Whats wrong?

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Shikamaru's got one thing and he uses his giant ass brain to make it work best for him. He didn't get enough moments towards the end. It was like Kishi was done with him after the Kakazu and Hidan fights, though those are still some of the very best with Kakashi joining in.

I was hoping he'd get another good one on one in the war

 

[JadedWriter]

I was hoping he'd get another good one on one in the war

Sadly no and when he fought Edo Asuma with the gang it felt kinda weak sauce.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Sadly no and when he fought Edo Asuma with the gang it felt kinda weak sauce.

That was essentially a choji moment. Which eh I guess choji was alright

 

[JadedWriter]

That was essentially a choji moment. Which eh I guess choji was alright

Choji's best moment was when he almost died fighting one of the Sound 5 or whatever to help Shikamaru accomplish his goal in Part 1.

 

[Dr.Hadji]

Shikamaru's got one thing and he uses his giant ass brain to make it work best for him. He didn't get enough moments towards the end. It was like Kishi was done with him after the Kakazu and Hidan fights, though those are still some of the very best with Kakashi joining in.

Hey now, the man was a fricken general during the war he got some more spotlight. Though Shika's time as the "smart guy in the show" was shared with his father during the war. Same thing happened with Lee, they just had Gai do all the cool stuff instead. Personally, the characters are so similar I didn't mind that the adults got more screen time.

 

[JadedWriter]

Hey now, the man was a fricken general during the war he got some more spotlight. Though Shika's his time as the "smart guy in the show" was shared with his father during the war. Same thing happened with Lee, they just had Gai do all the cool stuff instead. Personally, the characters are so similar I didn't mind that the adults got more screen time.

I actually liked Shikamaru's dad. It was easy to see that Shikamaru learned a lot from his dad and his time with Asuma.

 

[Desmond]

Lads please. I know many of you don't read the manga (even though some of you claim you have), so I'll give you the benefit of doubt. Also I suggest you take those scanned pages with watermarks down, unless you want to get banned.



See, I don't want to single you out, but I'm afraid this is the mentality many of you have, ironically claiming facts while saying nothing related to the facts.

Sasuke dominated Naruto at the beginning, that was when he told Naruto to stop holding back.



Fast forward and he acknowledges Naruto finally getting serious just before he fires Indra's arrow and Naruto uses his strongest attack. Naruto ain't holding anything back here.



I get it. Some of you wish Naruto dominated the fight. Too bad that never happened.

I've read it in English and Japanese.

In my opinion, the fight was equal for the most part (at least in the tanks). However if Naruto went at Sasuke with the intent to kill he would have dominated. Sasuke mentions this. Naruto is simply passive, trying to almost nullify Sasuke. In contrast, from the outset, Sasuke is trying to go for the kill.

 

[theWB27]

Lads please. I know many of you don't read the manga (even though some of you claim you have), so I'll give you the benefit of doubt. Also I suggest you take those scanned pages with watermarks down, unless you want to get banned.



See, I don't want to single you out, but I'm afraid this is the mentality many of you have, ironically claiming facts while saying nothing related to the facts.

Sasuke dominated Naruto at the beginning, that was when he told Naruto to stop holding back.



Fast forward and he acknowledges Naruto finally getting serious just before he fires Indra's arrow and Naruto uses his strongest attack. Naruto ain't holding anything back here.



I get it. Some of you wish Naruto dominated the fight. Too bad that never happened.

From what I saw in the anime...Sasuke said that because Naruto was in fact trying not to kill Sasuke while sasuke was more than trying to.

I didn't read the manga. Didn't have to since this is the anime thread. There is absolutely nothing you can say or show that can prove otherwise.

As if you don't realize this.

The ninja that had the people behind him was always the strongest.

Hagaromo and his brother > Kaguya

Asura fought for the people > Indra

Hashirama fought for the people > Madara

Naruto fights for the people > Sasuke

The biggest thing was none of them were able to get the other to walk the peaceful line until (you know how the story ends)

There's no way Naruto doesn't go through the crap the writer sends him through with the training and how hard he fought to get to where he is only to be outpowered by the loan wolf in Sasuke.

How often does evil beat out good in stories? Not often. This isn't any different.

Sasuke has always been shitty that Naruto was always on his heels or more powerful through the whole show. (Like on the roof when they were kids and he saw what Naruto's rasengan could do.)

You saw who was able to handle the boss in Boruto at the chunin exam.

Sasuke is better than Naruto in allot of areas. Most of those things are technical. Hand to hand...smarts...

But Naruto's power negates that. It's why Sasuke knew he had to try and take out Naruto right there cause he knew he'd always be in his way and wouldn't be able to carry out his plan.

You don't put the whole story on the second strongest.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

From what I saw in the anime...Sasuke said that because Naruto was in fact trying not to kill Sasuke while sasuke was more than trying to.

I didn't read the manga. Didn't have to since this is the anime thread. There is absolutely nothing you can say or show that can prove otherwise.

As if you don't realize this.

The ninja that had the people behind him was always the strongest.

Hagaromo and his brother > Kaguya

Asura fought for the people > Indra

Hashirama fought for the people > Madara

Naruto fights for the people > Sasuke

The biggest thing was none of them were able to get the other to walk the peaceful line until (you know how the story ends)

There's no way Naruto doesn't go through the crap the writer sends him through with the training and how hard he fought to get to where he is only to be outpowered by the loan wolf in Sasuke.

How often does evil beat out good in stories? Not often. This isn't any different.

Sasuke has always been shitty that Naruto was always on his heels or more powerful through the whole show. (Like on the roof when they were kids and he saw what Naruto's rasengan could do.)

You saw who was able to handle the boss in Boruto at the chunin exam.

Sasuke is better than Naruto in allot of areas. Most of those things are technical. Hand to hand...smarts...

But Naruto's power negates that. It's why Sasuke knew he had to try and take out Naruto right there cause he knew he'd always be in his way and wouldn't be able to carry out his plan.

You don't put the whole story on the second strongest.

Sasuke teases Naruto to try harder since he is dominating him in the fight. They then pull their strongest attacks and waste all their chakra with a stalemate. Once again, Naruto did not hold back here nor did he after the stalemate. The manga is referred as it is canon and the anime sometimes alters things.

Your first mistake is thinking Sasuke is evil like Madara....he is placed as an anti hero with an opposing perspective to Naruto.

You're right, the whole story wouldn't be placed on the second strongest. Its why the story focuses on both Naruto and Sasuke: because they are equal.

 

[JadedWriter]

Sasuke is actually the furthest thing from evil. The dude is just confused and misguided and does a lot of shit that runs opposite of Naruto's belief system, but he isn't evil.

 

[Arby 'n' the Chief]

The one thing that bugs me about the start of the fight is naruto not going sage mode during the hand to hand stuff. Sasuke was reading all of his moves rather easily yet SM can easily negate it. That and frog kata would own Sasuke considering only sage users can see nature chakra.

This sasuke bias with Kishi and studio pierriot is rather annoying. They always paint him as the superior taijutsu user.

 

[Fulminator]

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That was some dope animation. So happy to see Kirin used again. It actually boggles my mind Sasuke only used it once before.

can't sasuke only use kirin when there's a storm?

Sasuke dominated Naruto at the beginning, that was when he told Naruto to stop holding back.



Fast forward and he acknowledges Naruto finally getting serious just before he fires Indra's arrow and Naruto uses his strongest attack. Naruto ain't holding anything back here.



I get it. Some of you wish Naruto dominated the fight. Too bad that never happened.

yes, naruto used his full power at the time to counter an attack by sasuke that was far more powerful than sasuke could use in his normal arsenal. it makes perfect sense.

If Naruto and Sasuke went toe to toe at 100% with their EoS power levels, Naruto would definitely win. Sasuke would run out of Chakra far before Naruto does.

 

[SoulUnison]

Choji's best moment was when he almost died fighting one of the Sound 5 or whatever to help Shikamaru accomplish his goal in Part 1.

I hated that Chouji and Neji were beaten and exhausted within an inch of their lives, with Neji being covered in cuts and having a baseball sized hole blown through his chest, and Kiba stabs himself fully intending to commit suicide, but they all get rescued and healed back to 100%.