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US PoliGAF 2012 | The Romney VeepStakes: Waiting for Chris Christie to Sing…

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watershed

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How are you going to tell me it's false when I saw it with my own eyes. I had roads being built around my school and the traffic got much worse.

Of course it gets worse but its just temporary. The long term benefits are stable bridges or new roads. So what if a commute is longer for a few weeks or months? That's just a short term inconvenience.
 
CLASS WARFARE!!!!!!!!!!

Common sense!
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Only up to $3k per year, though one keep carrying on the losses to next year. However, for the big investors $3k is nothing, and thus higher taxes can certainly become a deterrence from making certain investments.
No, that $3k a year limit is for the capital loss deduction against your ordinary income; capital losses, carried over or not, always offset your capital gains without limit.

If you incur a net capital loss of $1 million, you'll deduct $3k from your ordinary income, and carry over $997k of capital loss to the next year. The next year, if you sell stock (held long-term) for a net capital gain of $500k, you will use your carried-over capital loss of $997k to offset that gain, pay no tax on the gain, reduce your ordinary income by $3k, and report and carry over a capital loss of $494k to the NEXT year. You won't pay capital gains taxes in any subsequent years until you've gained a net total of $1 million (your original capital loss) minus however many $3k income deductions you take.

See IRS pub 550, for example.
 
People who want to learn a trade and take some interesting/socially enriching courses will go to community college. By your system, people would be spending tens of thousands of dollars more for the same amount of education and the same type of certification.

Disagree. because a university degree is more than about the "certification", it's about making one a well rounded person, and giving you options. You might THINK you want to go into programming as a freshman, but you take science classes, some maths, some humanities, and find out something else might be better for you.

You take history or philosophy, and learn some critical thinking skills. You play as a student athlete, and learn teamwork. Again, WELL ROUNDED. Community Colleges don't do this well, and Trade schools don't do this at all.

Under my system, a kid who thinks he might want to take accounting can learn a trade if he wants to as part of a university education, while still having all the benefits of a 4 year college. Right now that doesn't happen. You go to a trade school, you learn the basics of what you need to get a job, and you're spit out. We can do better than this.

Again, we can argue a 4 year degree isn't "necessary" for certification in a trade, but a 4 year degree isn't "necessary" to train for more than half the jobs universities typically offer degrees in.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider

Kosmo

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Until a President goes for simplifying the tax code and completely wiping out our current system, none of this is to be taken seriously.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
I'm not watching this currently (at work) but it seems that this speech is pretty shitty by Obama standards. True/false?


Also, I wish Obama would invoke Reagan's tax hikes a lot more.
 

Jadedx

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Of course it gets worse but its just temporary. The long term benefits are stable bridges or new roads. So what if a commute is longer for a few weeks or months? That's just a short term inconvenience.

4 months it took, just for one strip of road. Now they are about to start on the other side of the intersection.
 

markatisu

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Disagree. because a university degree is more than about the "certification", it's about making one a well rounded person, and giving you options. You might THINK you want to go into programming as a freshman, but you take science classes, some maths, some humanities, and find out something else might be better for you.

You take history or philosophy, and learn some critical thinking skills. You play as a student athlete, and learn teamwork. Again, WELL ROUNDED. Community Colleges don't do this well, and Trade schools don't do this at all.

Under my system, a kid who thinks he might want to take accounting can learn a trade if he wants to as part of a university education, while still having all the benefits of a 4 year college. Right now that doesn't happen. You go to a trade school, you learn the basics of what you need to get a job, and you're spit out. We can do better than this.

well roundedness does not support the family or pay the bills. Dude I spent the last decade working in a University and work currently in a Community College, the Community College is winning on who is worth more to America and I have 2 degrees that make me "well rounded" according to you
 
Of course it gets worse but its just temporary. The long term benefits are stable bridges or new roads. So what if a commute is longer for a few weeks or months? That's just a short term inconvenience.

Actually there is a great study put out by traffic engineers that shows that widening roads actually increases commute times for drivers. Basically it showed that more people then start using the new lanes, more business and homes locate nearby and the congestion gets worse than when there were fewer lanes.

That said, we have to maintain and repair roads, and that will always require money.
 
This is better Obama

This SOTU Should have been about the vision of America

Although most Americans who are not politically active would like to hear detailed suggestions
 
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