Anybody catch The Soup last night when Alison Brie was on?
They made a reference to the Community situation as a sorta gag but I wonder if there is any truth to this
i think he's talking about mad men. it's coming back in march.
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i think he's talking about mad men. it's coming back in march.
Anybody catch The Soup last night when Alison Brie was on?
They made a reference to the Community situation as a sorta gag but I wonder if there is any truth to this
What no guys. Community is planned to come back sometime vague in march or april as a filler because that's how tv schedules work and that's the news that we've all been whining over
NotTheGuyYouKill
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So on a scale of 1 - 10, what are the chances that NBC will break my heart and cancel Community?
Be brutally honest. Or am I just swept up amongst overblown panic?
Be brutally honest. Or am I just swept up amongst overblown panic?
VariantX04
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Caught up with the last two episodes. I personally and very officially "DEAN" this show worthy of god-tier status. Fucking incredible.
9-9.5.
GoutPatrol
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Just imagine Britta is "Neilsen families," Troy is "Community," and the ropes are us.
I like the whole 'episodes occur in sync with major holidays' bit, which isn't going to happen as a result of this - we're not going to get a Valentine's Day episode near the day, for instance.
Unless...
Over christmas they have to fumigate the school, or some other such macguffin. It takes six months (or whatever). The Dean, being the Dean, cheerfully runs the school over August running all the Five Dances when they should have been, just offset - so everyone's aware the Valentine's Dance is in mid-July, or whatever, but still takes it seriously.
It's just about in-character for him, and it makes sense, and it allows them to keep that continuity.
She's Hynes these days. And I'd have Mark Heap as rival art prof, too. Go the whole hog!
HollovVpo1nt
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9 to 11? No way.
In all honesty? 50/50. Abysmal ratings might end up shutting it down at the end of the season, but on the other hand, when it comes back during a less competitive time (spring), its performance might actually improve. Sony, motivated for different reasons then NBC, likely sees the shows popularity outside of its Nielsen ratings (taking into account cult fandom, online viewings, and critical acclaim). With that kind of show, there's a lot of potential for rerun popularity down the road. The show won't go past a fourth season though. They'll kill it for sure as soon as it breaks the syndication barrier.
TL;DR? 50 percent chance it dies at season 3. 50 percent chance it dies at season 4.
There are some really good arguments ITT if you're willing to tread back through a few pages.
Couldn't remember her married name for the life of me
yeah, I found some links via wikipedia.
"show 's going to last three weeks" haha. Erm, is it too soon to make a lttp Community thread?
The only way that I see Community surviving is if fans show that they have an interested in the show on the web. Whether it is to talk about it on twitter with #Community, #sixseasonsandamovie, liking this page http://www.facebook.com/SaveCommunityTV or sending email/mail to NBC.
Unlike Arrested Development, Community has a chance to service due to social media websites and websites like Netflix which I believe count in the ratings (or at least can be used to show that people do watch the show).
Unlike Arrested Development, Community has a chance to service due to social media websites and websites like Netflix which I believe count in the ratings (or at least can be used to show that people do watch the show).
Nappuccino
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The only thing that counts in the ratings is watching the show when it airs with a Nielson box or watching the show shortly after on DVR.
Hulu helps... a bit. It doesn't give the Nielson numbers anything but just lets NBC know that you are mildly interested in the show.
So, if you have a Nielson box, watch it live.
If you have DVR, watch it there but no later than the day after it airs.
If you have neither, watch on hulu. Because that is the only way NBC knows you have an interest in the show.
Nappuccino
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I can easily see this show coming back for a 4th season.
I can also easily see it being cancelled on NBC and then being saved by netflix.
I can also easily see it being cancelled on NBC and then being saved by netflix.
Yeah that second one is not happening. Never ever. Unfortunately.
How can you say this after the last episode? I don't understand.
Not to mention the timeline episode which is a strong contender for best in the series.
roosters93
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I like you.
Having Community and Arrested Development on Netflix isn't exactly a bad thing. In fact, it would make Netflix the best "network" ever.
Nappuccino
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I'm confused.
Why wouldn't it work?
Community is owned by Sony and if they really want an outlet for their show and Netflix brings in the money, why wouldn't they?
I feel like AD coming back has made people think that Netflix picking up their favorite dead shows is going to be a thing now.
AD had a legendary increase in popularity with DVD sales. Seriously, a RIDICULOUS increase in post-air popularity. It is an extreme outlier. And putting it on netflix may not even be profitable in the end, we won't know for years.
You said Netflix picking up Community was easily imaginable, but it's really not. It would have to appear to be a supremely safe investment for Netflix. They're already taking risks and piling them on in the present (assuming Community gets canceled this year) wouldn't happen. For it to be sound, it would have to hugely increase in popularity. A ton. An amazing amount. That would take time even if it were to happen at all. Then, of course, we'd have to assume that all of the cast and crew hadn't moved onto something else. I guess they could do a diminished cast, but you know none of us would like that and the creative team wouldn't like that. The creative team would have to make concessions regardless with further slashed budgets, and that could be a deal breaker. And then there's the matter of how Sony would work into the deal and how their people would view it all.
I'm not saying that it's impossible. It's theoretically possible. But it's not equally as likely as cancelation. Cancelation is orders of magnitude more likely.
Nappuccino
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I guess the thing is, there isn't a clear metric for how popular community is besides the ratings. Ratings which wouldn't matter for netflix.
By most accounts, Community's audience prefers viewing the show on the internet which is netflix's thing. Sure, AD might not be obviously profitable for years, but if they can get community at a reasonable rate why wouldn't they try to make completely exclusive tv shows their draw for a few years as an experiment?
Hot Coldman
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If Community goes to Netflix, it goes there in 5 years.
But those ratings do matter for Netflix. They influence whether or not Netflix would try to do the show in the first place, for one. And, while we pretend it isn't, Nielsen is at least an approximation of viewing audience. That means that less people watch Community. It's a fact, one we've known since the show began. Few people watch Community. If few people are going to watch it, they're not going to try hard to buy it.
And those "accounts" aren't anything solid. Netflix would not make a deal because of how many people on the internet say they love it but aren't counted by Nielsen. They would either look to the Nielsen ratings or look to DVD sales. In AD the DVD sales were insane and now putting it on is their experiment (combined with their other original show, can't recall the name right now). Picking up Community if it were to be canceled this year would be an altogether more risky experiment and something entirely different.
I'm not trying to be a buzzkill, but honestly: do not consider this an actual possibility at the moment. It's just like shows switching networks, which everyone also loves to pretend is an option: for every 1 show that does it, there are a hundred that don't and just die. With netflix, for every one show it picks up after cancelation there are...every single show ever that didn't. Until Netflix figures out whether it can actually support having a show and whether it'll be profitable for them in the long run, they aren't going to buy up niche fan favorites thinking "yeah! I totally read that people liked this, it'll be pure cash!"
Nappuccino
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Well, to be clear, I never said this was a likely possibility. Just that it was a possibility. I mean who knows what netflix is planning on doing.
Also, as far as AD goes- it is hard to say how that will pan out, bringing a series that is 6 years cancelled back in a structure that does not play the the shows ensemble strengths doesn't seem like a brilliant idea. And only 10 episodes, so it would be an investment that has to pay off immediately instead of being allowed to gain viewers over a season or two.
Not to mention that, as far as I know, AD isn't shown in syndication so who knows what kind of actual ratings the show would be getting. It is hard to compare a dead show with no ratings to a living (albeit struggling one) with ratings.
AD is a big risk. Community would be a big risk, but it would be a risk that still has the writers and actors in their groove. Both have obvious advantages and disadvantages.
Not to mention, how is Netflix going to figure out if they make money from AD?
Only if subscribers rise? they have a shitload of subscribers already, how many more could AD garner for them?
The writers just haven't been including him? I guess they saw the reaction to guard chang and decided to scale him back, dunno
oh well, back to Zelda Skyward Sword
I hate you.
Complex Shadow
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i say we grow some goatees.
Hot Coldman
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All this Zelda is really helping the Community news go down
Nappuccino
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Nothing really. Though his noir plot was a little undercooked imo.
Some people don't like funny things I guess.
Here's a video featuring BFF's Alison and Danny apparently performing with the band Jones Street Station, with a fan shouting out some Community love at the start
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kyHk78oJWwM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kyHk78oJWwM
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