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Dave Chappelle getting backlash for jokes about Caitlyn Jenner
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No. Didn't say that. But should you join into an Internet mob justice group with your torch and pitchfork everytime it happens?
Every comedian has done this about blacks, whites, asians, indians, mexicans and everyone under the sun. Sure you can not like them, but the jokes can and have been funny. Unless you do what Michael Richards did.
That said comedians have never really been shy about being offensive.
notworksafe
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Do we have confirmation if Tyga was ROFL? or that was he?
word on the street is he was LMAO but then he STFU after she was not LOL
thechristoph
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I'm not pointing this at anything in particular, and definitely not transgenderism because I vehemently agree that gender is a societal construct and self-identity in this regard is true identity, but I think this is a pretty good question to be honest.
tearsintherain
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Has anyone called Ja Rule to find out what he thinks
That really isn't happening here there at least not yet . And people can be critical of jokes too in addition to not laughing
ElectricBlanketFire
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Haven't seen that episode in forever, but wasn't the point that Garrison was a woman while Kyle and his dad were taking advantage of being what they wished they could be rather than what they were?
A Link to the Past
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They got shit on it then too. It was never a very good episode. I'd love to hear their motivation for it - I mean, I would love to hear that the point was to make fun of people who think that being transgender is akin to being transspecies or transracial (and I wouldn't be surprised if it was indeed the point since I don't think that Matt and Trey are particularly uneducated on such matters) - but at first glance, it's just perpetuating those very common, very strongly held beliefs.
uncelestial
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Edited the OP because the lame Kylie Jenner jokes were even less funny than Dave's jokes about trans people.
Forearm Star
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I don't really see the harm, it's a comedy show, not a political forum.
While not knowing exactly what the joke was, but looking in a very general stance. Dave's done sketches making fun of gays, whites, blacks, etc, and hasn't made it part of some agenda to go after specific group.
It's fine to boo if the jokes sucked, but no reason to think any group is off limits. I thought the agenda was equality after all?
While not knowing exactly what the joke was, but looking in a very general stance. Dave's done sketches making fun of gays, whites, blacks, etc, and hasn't made it part of some agenda to go after specific group.
It's fine to boo if the jokes sucked, but no reason to think any group is off limits. I thought the agenda was equality after all?
Big Baybee
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Didn't they have multiple Caitlyn jokes this past season?
Normally these racist jokes aren't being made by beloved and critically acclaimed comedians.
ClosingADoor
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There are plenty of comedians using race in their shows. That does not make it automatically racist.
I'll need to hear the Chappelle joke before I can make any judgment on it.
Aren't comedians supposed to tell jokes?
Saying trans people are living a fantasy is like saying gay people are unnatural. It's not a joke.
Saying trans people are living a fantasy is like saying gay people are unnatural. It's not a joke.
That's where these threads always land though. These threads breed outrage.
I'll see myself out though. Carry on.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Obviously delivery is important but I can't see where the jokes are in that?
This is how the journalism of the future will look.
I agree but it's mostly from the outraged about outrage side.
what does it mean to grab your torch and pitchfork? who is doing that here? how is it different from someone simply deciding that they respect a person less for having bigoted social views?
ghostofsparta
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ElectricBlanketFire
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Who is outraged?
I don't need a comedy school lesson. Based on the quotes, Dave believes transgender individuals are living a fantasy. That isn't a joke.
I'm not outraged, just sucks as a fan of his.
A Link to the Past
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Firstly, the line quoted in the OP is not a joke, it's something you'd expect to hear at a GOP debate or FOX News.
Secondly, I've never known uncelestial to take things out of context in order to "push an agenda" or whatever you'd call it.
Thirdly, "what about equality" is a poor thing to say because indeed, what about equality? In society, whenever something like this comes up, it's always proposed that trans people, if they want to be equal, they need to be able to be the butt of the joke, when in fact it becomes seriously problematic for them to be the butt of the joke when they're kind of the butt of society. It'd be akin to making black jokes during Jim Crow.
Haha, seriously? People are criticizing and talking shit about Chappelle, and that translates to torches and pitchforks to you? Is Chappelle truly too sensitive to cope with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0
what a funy joke guys, lol pc culture so outraged but h'e s a comedian he can be offensive if he wants
what a funy joke guys, lol pc culture so outraged but h'e s a comedian he can be offensive if he wants
ElectricBlanketFire
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You missed the joke.It's already beyond that.
notworksafe
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wow dave looks real different now
Scientist Supreme!
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Then what did you mean? Because all you're doing is being upset at a group of people aren't interested in entertaining hate.
Didn't say that.
ClosingADoor
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Unless we get some footage of Chappelle going crazy like that, that is not a good comparison.
That sabbatical in Africa worked wonders for his tan and racial sensitivity.
even rape?
Fine Ham Abounds
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Oh I dunno, it seems to be going about as well as he handled success
Yeah that's a good comparison. If what the OP is saying is true, it doesn't come off as a joke at all. That's more like someone on their soapbox.
partyphone
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so a joke can be sacrosanct but criticism of a joke isn't?
are you people fueled by hypocrisy?
are you people fueled by hypocrisy?
entremet
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TheLostBigBoss
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but he's a comedian saying offensive things on a stage, surely it's part of the routine and you just don't get it
It's still hilarious. So are a ton of Pryor's old bits. Do they have shit that doesn't reflect well now though, absolutely. Doesn't take away from it for me though.
NoblesseOblige
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Just like nothing is off limits in comedy, nothing is off limits in criticism. Hence the backlash.
Hellwarden
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People say edgy jokes are okay if the jokes are funny.
People in this thread are saying these jokes aren't funny, so they're not okay.
But the people who watched the performance found the jokes funny, and therefore would probably say they're fine.
So these jokes are both okay and not okay.
People in this thread are saying these jokes aren't funny, so they're not okay.
But the people who watched the performance found the jokes funny, and therefore would probably say they're fine.
So these jokes are both okay and not okay.
ClosingADoor
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It's Richards going crazy at an audience member and spouting racist shit. That is not the same as Chappelle is doing.
I haven't seen the Chappelle bit, but from the responses in this thread the reactions to it range from offensive to it just being a joke. It doesn't sound nowhere near as bad as Richards is doing in that video.
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