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The Championships 2012 at [WIMBLEDON]

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AceOcelot

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Pic of the day, love that his kid's on the display
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MIMIC

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WTA doesn't count.

all of the top players were healthy, played the same amount of tournaments and won a slam.

federer finished last year and started this year better than the others. USO will decide who gets to keep it for the year.

Why not? It's the same formula as the ATP...just women.
 
Haha... WHAT?!?!

Thats hilarious considering talent was non-existent before Rafa and Novak showed up.

I've made this comment before, and I'll say it again... talents like Murray, Del Po and Tsonga were dime a dozen during Sampras' career.

pretty hard to be considered good when one player wins everything don't you agree? who knows how many slams they would have gotten if federer didn't stand in their way all the time.
 
Roger was clearly the superior player today opposed to a Murray who once again shows that he is simply not ready yet for a slam win! Great job getting to the final though, maybe in a few years he will take one home! (He would have lost just the same against a fit Nadal or Djoker)

As for Federer himself, i didn't think he could do this but he did, so congrats are in order! I will say however that Djoker was not fit/himself or else Fed likely would not have survived the semis... That's ok though, if he had one more slam in him it was the Wimbledon one and he did it, i will be VERY astounded if he wins another slam though after this (except maybe Wimbledon 2013 depending on the odds lol)
 

Ash_69

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Damn, I near on cried at the Murray post match interview. What the hell has gotten into me. Feel so sorry for him.

Federer's groundstrokes were on another level in that match. Also, his movement. Also, his tactical awareness. Oh yeah, his mental strength. Damn Federer, play like that day in day out and you never would have lost your no.1 spot!
 

Colocho

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Haha... WHAT?!?!

Thats hilarious considering talent was non-existent before Rafa and Novak showed up.

I've made this comment before, and I'll say it again... talents like Murray, Del Po and Tsonga were dime a dozen during Sampras' career.

Huh? I remember Michael Chang being a permanent number 2 and he's nowhere near the level of the guys you mentioned.
 

bionic77

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Haha... WHAT?!?!

Thats hilarious considering talent was non-existent before Rafa and Novak showed up.

I've made this comment before, and I'll say it again... talents like Murray, Del Po and Tsonga were dime a dozen during Sampras' career.
Nadal was there from the start.

Who did Sampras beat in his prime? The best player he beat was Agassi, who was not in the league or Rafa or Nadal. Who else was there, Chang? Old Becker, Edberg or Connors (made it to the semis when he was like 100)?

There were no a time greats Sampras was beating in his prime. The closest was Agassi.

But neither Sampras nor Fed can choose their competition.
 
Huh? I remember Michael Chang being a permanent number 2 and he's nowhere near the level of the guys you mentioned.

Michael Chang
Todd Martin
Goran Ivanicivich
Pat Rafter
Jim Courier
Richard Krajicek

Lets not forget the number of clay court specialist that existed back then.

Gustavo Kuerten
Tomas Muster
Sergei Bruegera

Sorry but the talent pool during Sampras' era was much bigger than it is now.
 

darkwing

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Damn, I near on cried at the Murray post match interview. What the hell has gotten into me. Feel so sorry for him.

Federer's groundstrokes were on another level in that match. Also, his movement. Also, his tactical awareness. Oh yeah, his mental strength. Damn Federer, play like that day in day out and you never would have lost your no.1 spot!

he had to get a life :| like marriage and kids
 
Michael Chang
Todd Martin
Goran Ivanicivich
Pat Rafter
Jim Courier
Richard Krajicek

Lets not forget the number of clay court specialist that existed back then.

Gustavo Kuerten
Tomas Muster
Sergei Bruegera

Sorry but the talent pool during Sampras' era was much bigger than it is now.

sampras slam winning span was way longer giving others more time to be considered good. federer sweeped everybody ending a few careers in between.

not even sampras thinks he's better than federer. federer would have a field day against him on clay.
 

bionic77

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Michael Chang
Todd Martin
Goran Ivanicivich
Pat Rafter
Jim Courier
Richard Krajicek

Lets not forget the number of clay court specialist that existed back then.

Gustavo Kuerten
Tomas Muster
Sergei Bruegera

Sorry but the talent pool during Sampras' era was much bigger than it is now.
Sorry you are wrong.

Michael Chang was never very good. He only won that one GS because Lendl choked like a bitch. I mean he won serving underhanded!
 

FroJay

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Seriously. He should play as long as he's competitive. Doesn't matter if he doesn't have a fairytale exit lol

He loves the game, and has said many times he would like to play til 35. He's 31 next month, so that is only 4 more years. Training, nutrition, and smart scheduling will allow him to play to 35 as long an injury doesn't get in the way.

To me it doesn't matter if he doesn't go out on top of the rankings, Sampras, Agassi etc. etc. didn't go out ranked #1. I bet these young guys wish he would hang it up though, 17 slams......unbelievable.
 

bud

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holy shit, i had no idea about this underserve thing.

hahaha, that looks ridiculous. this isn't table tennis!
 

RedAssedApe

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Except Sampras could switch up his game when he wanted. He was an exceptional serve and volleyer but the dude has a scary baseline game as well.

Don't completely agree with this. He usually got upset early in the French. Rogers consistency on all surfaces is what puts him above Sampras in my mind. No Nadal on clay and Roger could easily have 20+ slams as he's been the second best clay court player.
 
people hated Schumacher too


Not so sure it's arguing he's not GOAT, more that he is a great champion on the way out...

There is a difference between obviously being GOAT which Federer now IS, as there are simple FACTS to demonstrate that he is and being the best tennis player active right NOW in this stage. Given that Fed, Novak and Nadal are all 100% fit right now, i will guarantee that the best player of the three is NOT Federer anymore nowadays!

Overall though he's GTEW in my mind though (greatest there ever WAS not is ) ;)
 

Peru

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Two of the GOAT players years away from last Slam, finding their home on the grass. Something special about dominating at Wimbledon, you're not going to let it go easily. Remember Navratillova in 1990.
 

Meadows

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Thought I'd be quite passive if Murray lost but I'm absolutely gutted. He wants it so much. He's clearly the most determined player in the world imo.
 

bionic77

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he hasn't won a single non clay title in years and suddenly he should win the USO? with bad knees to boot? yeah no.
Nadal usually takes the end of the year off. He loses weird matches to scrubs in the early rounds z.

The exception was that 2 year period when he was on top.

But I would not count him out. He almost beat Novak at the Aussie.
 
Two of the GOAT players years away from last Slam, finding their home on the grass. Something special about dominating at Wimbledon, you're not going to let it go easily. Remember Navratillova in 1990.

serena is considered goat? on what basis? she leads like no stats does she? i don't follow WTA so this is a honest question.
 

RedAssedApe

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Sorry you are wrong.

Michael Chang was never very good. He only won that one GS because Lendl choked like a bitch. I mean he won serving underhanded!
Chang was good. Just not as good as Agassi or Sampras. Chang = David Ferrer of his era but at least Chang won a slam. Hah
 
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