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Wii/PS3/Kinect homebrewer rumor: Durango CPU clocked at 1.6ghz.
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Durango is Goku after defeating Ginyu Force?
metalslimer
Member
Pretty much. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the hilairity as it doesn't seem like its going away anytime soon.
Yeah, it's just a rushed and sloppy thread.
Is it really worthwhile to take this Marcan guy's word? Why would someone involved in Durango development give this detail leak to a console hacker?
Not to mention I7's or I-anything could possibly be in the Durango, so yeah clock speed doesn't matter I guess Marcan guy, but the number of cores used makes the CPU in Durango potentially much more powerful.
Clock speed matters if there are very few cores or whatever to work with.
Zombie James
Banned
Like the Wii U discussion, it depends entirely on the architecture. This isn't much of a counter-argument to the Wii U criticism, though, if that's what he's trying to do. For one thing, the Wii U's CPU is (rumoured) to be based on the PowerPC 750. I'm willing to bet Microsoft will use a post-1997 architecture.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
But thread summaries are no better.
You can tell that by the 360 launch.
metalslimer
Member
Well we've taken his word on the Wii U CPU so I don't see why there should be a double standard. I don't believe he ever gave us any concrete evidence on how he got the Wii U info
Yeah, I must be a crazy Nintendo hater, that's why I bought a Wii U.
And no, this isn't really interesting in any way - some random dude on Twitter writing all kinds of other stuff writing something that he apparently heard somewhere (even if true) doesn't tell us anything that's relevant to anyone.
This is all part of the fun. I'M HAVING FUN, ARE YOU HEARING ME *chokes BlackJace*
Neuromancer
Member
Holy shit
Thats over 6005 polygons per krundle
Thats over 6005 polygons per krundle
Hopefully this gets it into people's heads that clockspeed isn't everything. Different architectures can vary wildly in terms of performance / clock.
My educated guess on the matter (don't take this for gospel):
Off the shelf CPUs tend to be heavily pipelined to support heavy processing throughput. However, heavy pipelining is actually a big hinderance when you have heavily branching code (such as artificial intelligence or input dependent code). CPUs can be designed with a much shorter pipeline to both lower latency and increase throughput of heavily branching code, provided that some of the more intensive SIMD application are ported over to the GPU (i.e. physics).
My educated guess on the matter (don't take this for gospel):
Off the shelf CPUs tend to be heavily pipelined to support heavy processing throughput. However, heavy pipelining is actually a big hinderance when you have heavily branching code (such as artificial intelligence or input dependent code). CPUs can be designed with a much shorter pipeline to both lower latency and increase throughput of heavily branching code, provided that some of the more intensive SIMD application are ported over to the GPU (i.e. physics).
shinobi602
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Sorry, but does this marcan guy have major connections or something?
Not that I follow PC hardware heavily, but iirc almost all their big multicore releases(Phenom, Bulldozer, etc) have turned out to be pretty bad correct?
And now you've got the post from the guy who feels superior and labels everyone else in the thread!
Truly the complete package.
Seeing some of the responses - nope.
Smiles and Cries
Member
man going to have to wait how many years before this new generation of jumping to conclusions settles down?
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I don't think so
LionelDrake does god's work, so does shagg_187 when he isn't bust drinking bagged milk or play NHL
But it does work!
Also superior... lolwut?
Sounds legit. We should probably do a youtube video and add to n4g while we are at it. Knowledge belongs to everyone!
He hasn't tested the Durango, he hasn't even gotten a whiff of it.
Running hardware tests is in a different world completely than rumors and speculation for hardware that won't come out in a year.
If that's true this guy has a lot to prove before anyone should take his word for anything.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
He know's little birdies apparently.
Most likely, yes. Not that it would really mean anything if this announcement was true.
Phenom II family were a fantastic set of CPUs. Incredible bang for the buck.
If they really are going 8 cores as previously rumored, 1.6Ghz sounds like a reasonable number. I doubt either next gen system is going to go over 2GHz per core considering the efficiency of modern architectures and the fact that game engines are much more GPU dependent these days. Even a 2GHz quad core would be a huge jump from current CPUs.
shinobi602
Member
....the Wii U is out.
metalslimer
Member
Well obviously he's got some inside sources. Why would we doubt his credibility? He doesn't seem to have any vested interest to lie.
Well obviously this would be dev kit information.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Mmm hmm...
Well I'm sure the next Xbox isn't going to be weaker than the 360, so I wouldn't put to much thought into it.
As soon as I saw the thread title, I chuckled pretty hard. Let posters have their fun, and if they go too far, their asses will get banned, which will in turn be even funnier.
There's always Miiverse.
1.6 GHZ with 8-12 cores is still a massive leap in computing power compared to the xbox360.
KojiKnight
Member
This is 100% true.
For those people getting upset or calling BS it very well COULD be. That is why this is a rumor thread... Rumor threads should NEVER be taken as gospel or taken too seriously. Loosen up a little and either add some more next-gen jokes to the fire or toss in some nice theory crafting (as in why it would or wouldn't make sense, toss out some numbers or other rumors that contradict it)
I'd take anonymous information more seriously than someone saying they have "inside sources". Why would people involved in the development for a console leak something to someone who hacks and manipulates consoles? What is there to gain?
You should PM a mod instead of shitting up the thread with this.
chertipros
Member
60 pages worth of people believed him about the Wii U. No one was doubting him thenn
MS will most certainly be concerned with heat. They spent 1 billion dollars repairing early 360's and I'm sure they'll avoid a repeat.
No, read my post again. I never said that, I said you are acting like a weird fanboy. Regardless, it is not for you to decide what is thread worthy, if you don't like the thread just remove yourself from the discussion. Almost all console rumors come from "some guy hearing something", downplaying one because you don't like it is ridiculous.
Chopper Dave
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I was thinking more along the lines of Frieza after he cut himself in half with his destructo disc attack.
DonMigs85
Member
Their current architecture is sort of pseudo-multicore. It's better than hyper-threading though.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Haven't Gaf insiders confirmed what he said about the WiiU CPU/GPU?
What people need to get into their heads is that a CPU that runs at nearly 1/3 the clock speed of an other has to be able to do nearly 3x the work per a clock and that it takes up a lot of space and needs a lot of CPU designing know how to pull it off.
You can not just claim that a low clocked CPU will beat a higher clocked CPU because you want it to.
soulassssns
Banned
Oh that helps
FYI, I am a computer engineer and do have an idea what I'm talking about.
edit: will follow up with a better explanation in a following post.
shinobi602
Member
That's also after devs who worked with the console pretty much confirmed what he had to say.
People with similar hobbies tend to become friends with people who have similar hobbies. You don't need to read so far into it. I'm sure some average joe nobodies have overheard this same information and just doesn't care enough (or even know how) to tell.
I barely looked in that thread because it was a pit of boring and played out arguments. My personal opinion of him is that he needs to prove more and list the methods used for the Wii-U CPU testing.
If he's right about the Wii-U CPU, I guess that's one credible thing. Even then his word really doesn't hold value for me personally.
KojiKnight
Member
We're definitely not going to know for sure if he's right or wrong until either a confirmed insider says something, or the hardware is actually out and hacked so measurements can be done.
soulassssns
Banned
Watercooled as well. Lol
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