So true.
'What's the point of this match, we already know Taker is going to win! what a waste of time'
Lesnar wins.
'WTF, what's the point of Lesnar winning this match?!'
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So true.
'What's the point of this match, we already know Taker is going to win! what a waste of time'
Lesnar wins.
'WTF, what's the point of Lesnar winning this match?!'
As others have said, it is not. It's one of the few pitfalls of it, but the amount of other content (PPVs, 'new shows', etc.) is absolutely worth the money.
Also:
This worked so well because the crowd absolutely lost their shit when it happened. The sight of all the fans behind leaping to their feet is perfect.
Those back muscles of Cesaro are beastly. I don't think I've been as impressed with anyone in the WWE in terms of physical strength as I've been of Cesaro.
And both in the silverdome!As others have said, it is not. It's one of the few pitfalls of it, but the amount of other content (PPVs, 'new shows', etc.) is absolutely worth the money.
Also:
Hahahhahah
Oh well played sir
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Hulk's never gonna live this one down. Especially once the mandatory Botchamania episode hits the web.
Probably.
I imagine we'll have a HUGE shit storm in this thread when Heyman or Bryan kick off RAW.
Which I think has been discussed, but:
- Was the Taker loss to overshadow Bryan's win? Which do you consider to be the bigger moment of WM 30?
- Was Brock's win over Taker, with Heyman in his corner a real "Fuck You!" to CM Punk?!
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-- I think they both stand on their own pretty much the same. DIdn't feel like the shine was gone when Bryan got his.
-- I don't think it was meant to be a fuck you, but the results say fuck you Punk.
1. No. They were both massive moments. The Bryan win was needed after the Taker loss to send the crowd home happy
2. No. I'd imagine this was the plan when Taker realized he couldn't go anymore. Punk was probably the last thing on anyones mind booking that one.
1. It could be been the last match to not overshadow Bryan's victory, but I don't think they did it to overshadow Bryan. I'd consider Taker's loss bigger just because I've been following Taker longer than I have Daniel Bryan so it means much more to me that he lost his streak.
2. Doubt it. I think it was Taker's choice in the end, but it does come off as "Fuck you" to CM Sunk.
Ken Masters
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CM Punk would be the last person who deserves to end the streak
So DB has to face Orton right? to finish the feud?
Punk had better Feud and Match than Lesner. He deserved more than Lesner period.
Punk had better Feud and Match than Lesner. He deserved more than Lesner period.
Doubtful. A 4 hour wrestlemania with no commercials couldn't even get 100 pages. No way a 3 hour raw will get 70+ pages to reach 20k posts.
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which thread is gonna be used for the raw tonight this one or the one in community ?
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Not unless Brock F5's AJ through a table to continue his apparent FUs to Punk.
Ken Masters
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Post-WM RAW is part of WM Week now, so this one.
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Cena's reactions during that match were embarrassingly terrible.
"SELL INTENSITY"
We still have hours before Raw though......and this isn't a normal Raw.
but Lesner is better? if I have to pick between the two CM Punk easily.
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Yup. TV deals come up at the end of the year and they're negotiating with different networks and of course USA. They're pushing to get replays on the network pretty hard.
Little late but here are my thoughts on Mania.
Hogan/Austin/Rock promo - Ran on a bit too long but I liked it. Was neat to see the three of them in the same ring. I was reminded of all the countless Austin vs Hogan rumours during it though.
Daniel Bryan vs Triple H - They really nailed it from a technical front, and Steph was great at ringside. Definitely the match of the night. Seeing Triple H open Mania was really surreal.
Shield vs Kane+NAO - I still think this was a waste of the Shield. Did Kane even get any offence in? I seriously don't remember.
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royale - Well we got out Andre reference, and not the one I was expecting. I marked quite hard when Cesaro bodyslammed Big Show. I hope this is the beginning of big things for him.
Cena vs Bray - Bray looked like gold in this match. He really nailed it. The whole "Cena's inner monster" story was bullshit though. I just kept thinking back to his I Quit match with JBL at Judgement Day 2005. I would have liked it more if the finish was Bray laughing and singing "He's got the whole world in his hands" as Cena had the STF on before passing out (like someone mentioned here).
Brock vs Undertaker - Terrible match. But no one's going to remember this match for the quality. That ending is the biggest Mania moment ever (or at least in recent years). And the commentary was fucking horrible "The streak! ... is over". I wonder how JR would have called that ending. Seeing Taker in the state he was in that match was depressing, but he was a favourite of mine for a long time so seeing the streak end was incredibly surreal. Heyman was fantastic as always.
Diva Invitational - I felt bad for the divas. Having to follow Taker losing. I thought Naomi was going to win because I remember reading that she was planned to be the champion going into Mania. Brie Bella was another guess because they may have wanted Bryan and Brie as champions and pair them together more on Raw.
Batista vs Orton vs Bryan - I was confused initially because of there being no promo video but then I remembered that the "feud" between Batista and Orton had virtually no build up. I have to give props to all three of them though, they did their roles well. During the celebration I kept expecting Triple H or Stephanie to shout "CUT THE MUSIC!". Thankfully Bryan got his Wrestlemania moment.
In regards to the streak, I feel that closing Mania with that would both be really good but also a bad ending. Good because very few things will be able to follow such a hard task. But bad because that'd be quite the downer ending for a Mania.
First I'm hearing about this. Any links about this?
I cringed at that part. Looked quite nasty and seeing the blood on Orton's back made it worse.
Really interested to see where Raw takes things.
Hogan/Austin/Rock promo - Ran on a bit too long but I liked it. Was neat to see the three of them in the same ring. I was reminded of all the countless Austin vs Hogan rumours during it though.
Daniel Bryan vs Triple H - They really nailed it from a technical front, and Steph was great at ringside. Definitely the match of the night. Seeing Triple H open Mania was really surreal.
Shield vs Kane+NAO - I still think this was a waste of the Shield. Did Kane even get any offence in? I seriously don't remember.
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royale - Well we got out Andre reference, and not the one I was expecting. I marked quite hard when Cesaro bodyslammed Big Show. I hope this is the beginning of big things for him.
Cena vs Bray - Bray looked like gold in this match. He really nailed it. The whole "Cena's inner monster" story was bullshit though. I just kept thinking back to his I Quit match with JBL at Judgement Day 2005. I would have liked it more if the finish was Bray laughing and singing "He's got the whole world in his hands" as Cena had the STF on before passing out (like someone mentioned here).
Brock vs Undertaker - Terrible match. But no one's going to remember this match for the quality. That ending is the biggest Mania moment ever (or at least in recent years). And the commentary was fucking horrible "The streak! ... is over". I wonder how JR would have called that ending. Seeing Taker in the state he was in that match was depressing, but he was a favourite of mine for a long time so seeing the streak end was incredibly surreal. Heyman was fantastic as always.
Diva Invitational - I felt bad for the divas. Having to follow Taker losing. I thought Naomi was going to win because I remember reading that she was planned to be the champion going into Mania. Brie Bella was another guess because they may have wanted Bryan and Brie as champions and pair them together more on Raw.
Batista vs Orton vs Bryan - I was confused initially because of there being no promo video but then I remembered that the "feud" between Batista and Orton had virtually no build up. I have to give props to all three of them though, they did their roles well. During the celebration I kept expecting Triple H or Stephanie to shout "CUT THE MUSIC!". Thankfully Bryan got his Wrestlemania moment.
In regards to the streak, I feel that closing Mania with that would both be really good but also a bad ending. Good because very few things will be able to follow such a hard task. But bad because that'd be quite the downer ending for a Mania.
First I'm hearing about this. Any links about this?
I always wondered how solid those cube things were. Found out.
I cringed at that part. Looked quite nasty and seeing the blood on Orton's back made it worse.
Really interested to see where Raw takes things.
Ken Masters
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Brock is 3-0 against Undertaker, including leaving him in a pool of his own blood in a HIAC match
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The will he/won't he stuff was bad enough, but I was utterly perplexed by the way he reacted early on in the match - Bray wouldn't fight and then tried to cheap shot Cena, but Cena got the upper hand, Bray bailed to the floor and Cena just started inarticulately raging for no good reason. It came across as so forced and ridiculous. The guy is an awful actor.
I actually hope they're done with the feud, try and move The Wyatts on to something worthwhile and forget the whole Cena thing ever happened. More Wyatts vs Shield stuff sounds like money, to me.
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fuckin' called it, man
What if Taker wants to start a 21-year losing streak?
CM Punk beat The Undertaker too dammit.
Oh, didn't know. I stopped watching WWE in 2004. These guys are completely new to me.
Theoretically. I think they'd be smarter to go Lesner/Bryan at Extreme Rules, then transition back to Orton.
I'd say Bryan/Lesner should be saved for Summerslam, but I have a feeling that Batista would have the belt by then.
Agreed. The bold is the route I wish they went with Wrestlemania XXX. Shield vs Wyatts would have been top notch, except they needed to find a slot for Cena. It's too bad since they wasted Shield potential at Mania in a squash match. I'm looking forward to seeing which direction the Wyatts go in today's Raw.
Yup. It's been up since last night.
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Quick google search brings it up: http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/06/recent-history-of-homophobia-in-sports/homophobia-10
I think Brock is a total dick. I don#t think he came of sympathetic in any interview I have ever seen.
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The streak lives!
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Couldn't disagree more with this. Of all the time I hate the hushed tone, it was absolutely appropriate here. And how long does JR need to be gone before we stop comparing every announcer to him? I mean, I love the guy, but he's not coming back.
But Orton has a rematch clause correct?
Fortunately for him, he's going to excel at just that if his performance yesterday was any indication.
Neither, which sucks.
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