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Spring 2014 Anime |OT2| about as likely as a second season of Hyouka

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Hyouka was okay.

Well, I didn't like it. Most likely because I cam for mysteries, detective work and smug faces. Nstead I got... Oreki. Only thing that was interesting was excited Chitanda, but even that wore off pretty fast.

Blasphemy!!! :)

Even IF you are a Maki fan, I will not stand for any badmouthing of Chitanda!

Chitanda is just so fun to watch. She's very unique in a world of anime dominated by tsundere's and the like.

I swear a lot of people that go into Clannad want to think it'll suck lol

Clannad was my first Key show, and I watched it after Toradora. I didn't have the best impressions with the comedy at the start, but it didn't take long after for me to like it.

I am the biggest fan of Clannad and After Story on GAF. But I distinctly remember going into it thinking to myself "I'll give this 3 episodes, the character designs are weird". I came to really like the designs by episode 2. And I loved the show by the Furukawa arc. After Story destroyed me.
 
Heh. I actually liked the first season of K-On!, it was simple, cute fun. The second season was the same only somehow boring. I tried two times to watch K-On!!, but it just couldn't excite me.
And I have no bias against cute girls doibg cute things, saw plenty of that and liked most stuff. Its been a while, but I think K-On was too tame. Not talking something extreme here, but somehow I had the feeling that I'm watching the same stuff over and over again. I also disliked Hyouka and Lucky Star (but I actually finished the latter).

The only reason the second season of K-ON is more "boring" than the first is because it replaces the shallow characterization and constant gag interruptions of the first with more human characters and more deliberate and hence effective direction.
 
Well, I didn't like it. Most likely because I cam for mysteries, detective work and smug faces. Nstead I got... Oreki. Only thing that was interesting was excited Chitanda, but even that wore off pretty fast.
I probably would have liked it more if it felt like it was going somewhere or actually went somewhere.
 

cajunator

Banned
I swear I've seen more lewd images from the FG thread compared to this one. Post content is probably another matter though.

I know. Some much more risque stuff gets posted elsewhere involving REAL women.

I didn't try to badmouth her, she was the obmnly redeeming quality of the show, at least for me, but the thing is that she couldn't carry the show alone.
But I do enjoy looking at sparkly eye pictures of her. Her gaze is fascinating.

Her eyes are the eyes that will pierce the heavens
 
Elfen Laid is a hentai ova.

Sorry my bad. I mean Elfen Lied.

See I can't even be bothered to memorize the name. I just remember being told it was just sooooooooo gooooood, only to find it sooooooo disappointing.

Edit: Just searched the name I put and you are right. I didn't know this was a thing. I thought you were joking. I wonder how many people accidentally found this mistakenly looking for Elfen Lied.
 

Chariot

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The only reason the second season of K-ON is more "boring" than the first is because it replaces the shallow characterization and constant gag interruptions of the first with more human characters and more deliberate and hence effective direction.
What does this even mean. Effective in what way?
I probably would have liked it more if it felt like it was going somewhere or actually went somewhere.
Thats what I'm feeling too.
 

Shergal

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Eh, people like what they like. I wouldn't say people are uneducated because they don't like the same things. Watching Hyouka it's immediately apparent that it's not a show for everyone. It caters to a pretty specific taste. I am happy it caters to me and happy I'm enjoying it so much. I do know though that others won't interpret the same things from different shows.

That's the cool thing about anime is that people interpret and take different things from any given show. For example where some might find Clannad as a show with a lot of drama and big eyed characters, I find a deep story about a group of characters that all have deep and repressed problems that need to be resolved in order for them to function and be better people. It's a story about real life problems with supernatural elements sprinkled in throughout the show. It's about a show about family, forgiveness and miracles that help people understand more about themselves/teach lessons. Some will not interpret the show like that and look at it face value.
I'm okay with whatever people like or dislike, and the reasons for liking or disliking something are always personal, but when an argumentative point is made I'd like if it wasn't misconstruing the aims and qualities of a show. This happens a lot with these kinds of shows, and reading those before going and watching it yourself is probably going to be misleading.

For example, I don't really like Clannad, but I understand what it's about and all of the points you made were clear to me when watching it. I just had some problems with the presentation and the style of writing and drama that Maeda likes to employ. I felt that the characters don't come through as multifaceted human beings because of it, but rather as ploys to be used for "sad moments"; the over-dramatized nature of the scenarios they come up with as well as the dialogues themselves take away from the show's intents, and the supernatural stuff (as presented in the anime, I dunno about the VN) strains plausibility and doesn't really have a place in a show with core themes as grounded as Clannad wanted.

It's perfectly okay to disagree and have a differing opinion, and I've read a lot of valid negative points and complaints about both K-On!! and Hyouka where I accepted that it comes down to preference and the priorities one has when going into a show. These are not in the majority though.
 

Theonik

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The few megane witches probably just keep them on with magic, it wouldn't even be the strangest thing about the show! Humi will find a way to get more megane witches in the sky.
I'm not talking about keeping it on. Most airforces have a hard requirement that all recruits must have 20/20 vision, hence megane is banned.
 
I'm not talking about keeping it on. Most airforces have a hard requirement that all recruits must have 20/20 vision, hence megane is banned.
Well Pierre Clostermann didn't even wear glasses so the option to give witches megane is clearly Humi's thing, a thing he should do more often!
 

Chariot

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I'm not talking about keeping it on. Most airforces have a hard requirement that all recruits must have 20/20 vision, hence megane is banned.
Well, he Witches are pretty unique. I don't think they be picky after the Neroi conquered so much land.
Did you read about Suomos misfit squad? The militarys have some real bad stuff in their rows. I think the american witch is trashing stuff worth thousands of dollars on regular basis.
 

Articalys

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I'm not talking about keeping it on. Most airforces have a hard requirement that all recruits must have 20/20 vision, hence megane is banned.
I was about to say "well maybe they're just empty frames" but then remembered that even suggesting such a thing is sacrilege against everything that megane stands for.
 
What does this even mean. Effective in what way?Thats what I'm feeling too.
I didn't like that it couldn't make up its mind if it was introverted high school dude solves mudane mysteries at his school thanks to the egging of his friends or if it was a romance story.

I preferred it when it I thought it was a mystery show.
 
What does this even mean. Effective in what way?

More effective in getting me to care about the characters and to be interested in their interactions. The direction is more observational, the editing is more connective, and the characters are treated more like real human beings instead of fodder for gags.

Of course, people have different tastes and all that. The reason why K-ON!! and Hyouka appeal to me is because they both present a heightened reality where the mundane becomes almost magical thanks to the way it's presented. Unfortunately some people only see the mundane.

For example, I don't really like Clannad, but I understand what it's about and all of the points you made were clear to me when watching it. I just had some problems with the presentation and the style of writing and drama that Maeda likes to employ. I felt that the characters don't come through as multifaceted human beings because of it, but rather as ploys to be used for "sad moments"; the over-dramatized nature of the scenarios they come up with as well as the dialogues themselves take away from the show's intents, and the supernatural stuff (as presented in the anime, I dunno about the VN) strains plausibility and doesn't really have a place in a show with core themes as grounded as Clannad wanted.

I think Clannad works better as a VN than as an anime, due to the way the multiple routes work, though it still has its fair share of issues.

I didn't like that it couldn't make up its mind if it was introverted high school dude solves mudane mysteries at his school thanks to the egging of his friends or if it was a romance story.

I preferred it when it I thought it was a mystery show.

Hyouka is a character development story. The mysteries serve the purpose of fleshing out the characters involved in them, just as the romance that gradually deepens does.
 

cajunator

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Well Pierre Clostermann didn't even wear glasses so the option to give witches megane is clearly Humi's thing, a thing he should do more often!

One of the reasons I learned how to draw was so I could make fanart that makes me squee by specifically appealing to the things that I love so much.
 
I'm okay with whatever people like or dislike, and the reasons for liking or disliking something are always personal, but when an argumentative point is made I'd like if it wasn't misconstruing the aims and qualities of a show. This happens a lot with these kinds of shows, and reading those before going and watching it yourself is probably going to be misleading.

For example, I don't really like Clannad, but I understand what it's about and all of the points you made were clear to me when watching it. I just had some problems with the presentation and the style of writing and drama that Maeda likes to employ. I felt that the characters don't come through as multifaceted human beings because of it, but rather as ploys to be used for "sad moments"; the over-dramatized nature of the scenarios they come up with as well as the dialogues themselves take away from the show's intents, and the supernatural stuff (as presented in the anime, I dunno about the VN) strains plausibility and doesn't really have a place in a show with core themes as grounded as Clannad wanted.

It's perfectly okay to disagree and have a differing opinion, and I've read a lot of valid negative points and complaints about both K-On!! and Hyouka where I accepted that it comes down to preference and the priorities one has when going into a show. These are not in the majority though.

I agree.

On the Clannad point (I don't want to spend too much time on this since the original discussion wasn't really about Clannad to begin with), I would agree with you on it with some of the characters. However, the Okazaki's and Furukawa's are all very multifaceted characters that shows multiple sides to their characters. Especially where Tomoya and Akio are concerned. And with the exception of Sunohara and Fuko, no single character was the same character they were when they started the show. Tomoya's growth as a character is the single most significant growth of a character I have seen in a long time.
 
Hyouka is a character development story. The mysteries serve the purpose of fleshing out the characters involved in them, just as the romance that gradually deepens does.
And yeah I get that its was all about character development. But I dunno maybe I'm too used to quick start romance stories rather than watching the romance eventually develop.

This too, also your Ume-sensei Seiba is giving me the diabeetus.
Then it is doing its job well!
 

Theonik

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Well, he Witches are pretty unique. I don't think they be picky after the Neroi conquered so much land.
Did you read about Suomos misfit squad? The militarys have some real bad stuff in their rows. I think the american witch is trashing stuff worth thousands of dollars on regular basis.
I suppose there must be a real shortage in short pants magic wielding flying girls.

But have you checked the requirements of the witch airforce?
-must have nice butt

Jokes aside, I'm not complaining. I'm just pointing out why megane would be rare.

Well Pierre Clostermann didn't even wear glasses so the option to give witches megane is clearly Humi's thing, a thing he should do more often!
Well I suppose if you can make a man-ass pilot into a butt exposing, anima ears bearing witch flying with fighter parts on her legs, adding megane is trivial.
 

Chariot

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More effective in getting me to care about the characters and to be interested in their interactions. The direction is more observational, the editing is more connective, and the characters are treated more like real human beings instead of fodder for gags.

Of course, people have different tastes and all that. The reason why K-ON!! and Hyouka appeal to me is because they both present a heightened reality where the mundane becomes almost magical thanks to the way it's presented. Unfortunately some people only see the mundane.
Somehow I have the feeling that I'm being insulted.
Anyways, I agree that it comes down to taste. But there was no reason to change the way K-On worked. It did just fine as it was. But who am I to judge? It worked fine for the market which means at least that a lot of people really enjoyed it.
I suppose there must be a real shortage in short pants magic wielding flying girls.
Apparently. I don't know how else some of the Witches wiuld still be in the military.
 
Well I suppose if you can make a man-ass pilot into a butt exposing, anima ears bearing witch flying with fighter parts on her legs, adding megane is trivial.
A witches' beauty is directly correlated to the handsomeness of their pilot archetype, which means Pierre best girl.
 

Shergal

Member
But there was no reason to change the way K-On worked. It did just fine as it was.

I mean, it sold like hotcakes either way, so technically they had no reason. But personally I don't think K-On S1 did just fine, it was just a meh show among a sea of meh shows, with the added punch of being insanely well-made courtesy of Kyoani.
 

Quasar

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I'm going to admit I never really considered the lewd level to be anything more than a joke, it being so low generally. Unless you were a ten year old. Certainly I had no issues reading it at work.

That said, I assume this means a similar crackdown on the manga thread?
 

jman2050

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K-On!! suffers the same problem as Hyouka where the uneducated only see the surface and proceed to judge the show as "nothingness" or what have you, without really trying to understand it and get to the core of it. Which, admittedly, you can still think it's bad anyway, but you rarely see any complaint coming from this place.
For K-On!!, it's aggravated because its first season is indeed a fairly vapid 4-koma show with not much going for it apart from the general finesse of the production (which is also greatly improved in the second season, although it's no match for Hyouka).

Monocles gonna monocle
 

Clov

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More effective in getting me to care about the characters and to be interested in their interactions. The direction is more observational, the editing is more connective, and the characters are treated more like real human beings instead of fodder for gags.

Of course, people have different tastes and all that. The reason why K-ON!! and Hyouka appeal to me is because they both present a heightened reality where the mundane becomes almost magical thanks to the way it's presented. Unfortunately some people only see the mundane.

I love both seasons of K-ON, but I can understand this perspective. The second season really made me feel for the characters more; it made me sad to know that they would have to leave Azusa behind. Really played well into the "mono no aware" vibe, but still kept its upbeat tone.

As for Lucky Star, as I've mentioned before I love it. It's definitely not for everyone, but I just adore everything about it.
 
jeebus rabbit cafe 12

was too cute :O




seriously wtf happened here? something about cameltoes? no more borderline lewd stuff?

I guess stick to cute gifs.

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No Game No Life

And the harem grows ever larger.

Also, what a fucking cliffhanger.

Word. But man, I didn't even start watching this series until five or six episodes were already out, but it ended up being one of my favorite shows this season. Though there weren't nearly as many shows that caught my interest this season as opposed to the last few. Fun show, though. And the color palette was interesting. I've never before seen anything done almost entirely in pastels that didn't make my eyes bleed after five minutes.
 

jman2050

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I don't get how you can hate K-On yet you still watched Nisekoi. :p

Seems like an odd comparison to make, the two shows aren't even remotely similar.

If you want to talk SHAFT, I actually dislike Hidamari Sketch for many of the same reasons I dislike K-On. But that's not quite as well-known!
 

Articalys

Member
This K-On/Lucky Star discussion is weaving in and out of so many other posts that I'm right confused about who's taking which sides in the argument.

Though I've never seen either series in its entirety, so I'm one to talk
 

Andrew J.

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Korra no Densetsu S3 01-03

Probably the best opening episodes this show's seen yet. Plot developments continuing on from the last season are logical and interesting, character relationships move much more fluidly without being weighed down by romantic drama, the humor is excellent and consistently present, and the new villains are both credible threats and intriguing, if not quite compelling (yet).Most importantly, the main character's personality is newly-tempered with prudence and compassion. Korra is still passionate and temperamental without feeling stupid or mean.

Oh, and Korrasami is totally canon. :sdburton.
 

Midonin

Member
Excel Saga 05-08

I remember episode 5 because of the first appearance of the trap door (that Excel herself pointed out), but after that, things are getting into firmly unfamiliar territory. Looking at her relative screentime, a convincing argument could be made that this is really the story of the apartment dwellers. Or Pedro. Or Nabeshin. The correct answer is probably "all of the above". The way the episodes are wound together is a pretty tight example of comedic storytelling, everything falling together and apart like a Rube Goldberg machine, and my anime knowledge is enough now that I can catch most of the jokes. Like a little girl named Sera Cosette. On the nose, and yet also exaggerated. The brief "transformation" of Sumiyoshi also got a small laugh from me.
 
Future Card Buddyfight!! Episode 25 (engdub)
New OP animation suggests a few things dealing with a change of scenary. The new ED song and animation is good too. I liked the previous song because it was just catchy and was Tasuku Ryouenji focused but well now its more for everyone. The post anime part with Tasuku and Gau was good in terms of card strategies and introducing the cards, like it for a more advanced topic than just the general introductions she described last part.

Great duel this episode, TatsuYO is hilarious duelist as well as Ryouga. One of the better fights in the series even.
 
Korra no Densetsu S3 01-03

Probably the best opening episodes this show's seen yet. Plot developments continuing on from the last season are logical and interesting, character relationships move much more fluidly without being weighed down by romantic drama, the humor is excellent and consistently present, and the new villains are both credible threats and intriguing, if not quite compelling (yet).Most importantly, the main character's personality is newly-tempered with prudence and compassion. Korra is still passionate and temperamental without feeling stupid or mean.

Oh, and Korrasami is totally canon. :sdburton.

I wouldn't praise it as much as you did, but I definitely agree that Korra S3 is currently a huge step up from the previous season.

And yes, SDBurton will be pleased. :lol
 
Okay, I've watched too many cute girls doing cute things recently. Anyone have any recommendations that aren't too moe? I'm also willing to do watchbets if anyone is interested.
 

trejo

Member
I definitely agree that Korra S3 is currently a huge step up from the previous season.

To be fair, that's not really saying a lot.

Okay, I've watched too many cute girls doing cute things recently. Anyone have any recommendations that aren't too moe? I'm also willing to do watchbets if anyone is interested.

Asking for cute girls doing cute things without moe is like asking for JoJo without fabulous posing.
 
Okay, I've watched too many cute girls doing cute things recently. Anyone have any recommendations that aren't too moe? I'm also willing to do watchbets if anyone is interested.

Master Keaton, the adventures of the titular globe-trotting jack-of-all-trades insurance investigator/ex-Special Forces hero.
 

Quasar

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Okay, I've watched too many cute girls doing cute things recently. Anyone have any recommendations that aren't too moe? I'm also willing to do watchbets if anyone is interested.

Knights of Sidonia.

Some peoples eyes dont bleed when they watch ping pong.
 

Mokoi

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Okay, I've watched too many cute girls doing cute things recently. Anyone have any recommendations that aren't too moe? I'm also willing to do watchbets if anyone is interested.

Just watch Rainbow: Nisha Rokubō no Shichinin If you haven't seen it. Only the rainbow part in the title can be considered moe. Should be just what your looking for.
 
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