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Amazon/Target/Wal-Mart/BB/Gamestop PS4 Black Friday Bundles are up $399.99 GTA V-TLOU

vesvci

Banned
In Amazon you get 12 months of LIVE, so it seems retailers are adding an extra bonus on top of the 329$+ 2 games offer, Sony doesn't stand a chance.

MS must be offering some sweet credits in the back end for retailer to be adding these extra spiffs on XBOs.
 

Gurish

Member
Why do they deserve it? For the sheer skill of having unlimited money from their OS monopoly, thus being able to just recant on their vile policies last year and slash the price and throw in all the goodies they want, while being able to haemorrhage money?
Well they did the right moves, but unlimited funds do help in making those moves...
 

DR2K

Banned
Why do they deserve it? For the sheer skill of having unlimited money from their OS monopoly, thus being able to just recant on their vile policies last year and slash the price and throw in all the goodies they want, while being able to haemorrhage money?

They have the best deal.
 

wapplew

Member
Why do they deserve it? For the sheer skill of having unlimited money from their OS monopoly, thus being able to just recant on their vile policies last year and slash the price and throw in all the goodies they want, while being able to haemorrhage money?

Sound like an Arsenal fans.
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
Sony should throw Rayman Legends into the GTA V / TLoU bundle and then they've got all the top 3 rated retail games for current-gen, and the best versions of them!
 
They have the best deal.

Yeah, which they wouldn't be able to do if not for all their money. Nintendo and Sony couldn't just slash that huge price cut and throw in a load of games.

So we've come to the point where Sony can't compete, even if they do all the right things. Thus, MS can just keep trying their BS, because in the end, all they have to do is say, "Oopsie... well we gotta try... btw, our $700 Xbox Two? Yeah it's now $200 with 10 games."
 

Lemondish

Member
Yeah Sony really messed up with this bundle, two remasters and didn't lower the price. Speaks volume that the two best games they could bundle were remasters, really poor year for software from Sony.

Yeah, it's too bad they picked remasters of the two best games of last generation rather than picking broken last gen up-ports and mediocre Ubisoft bug fests.
 

PhatSaqs

Banned
Why do they deserve it? For the sheer skill of having unlimited money from their OS monopoly, thus being able to just recant on their vile policies last year and slash the price and throw in all the goodies they want, while being able to haemorrhage money?
that was a salty mouthful lol
 

Gurish

Member
Sony should throw Rayman Legends into the GTA V / TLoU bundle and then they've got all the top 3 rated retail games for current-gen, and the best versions of them!
Yea, too bad many people have already played them last gen. Still not sure that to bundle those remasters was the right choice, though MS would beat them with their insane deals anyway.
 

Nerokis

Member
Why do they deserve it? For the sheer skill of having unlimited money from their OS monopoly, thus being able to just recant on their vile policies last year and slash the price and throw in all the goodies they want, while being able to haemorrhage money?

The PS3 hemorrhaged money for a pretty long time. A console being priced with poor-negative profit margins is not a Microsoft thing. In general, something with a good value selling well is typically considered "deserved."
 

On Demand

Banned
I mean there are deals and then there are DEALS.

The deals this month have been by any measure certifiably insane. Lest we forget this is a system that started a year ago at $500 and is now hitting stores with 2 games and gift cards for $329. I mean, this is go-for-broke type shit, the type of cutthroat hardcore hardball that only Microsoft can even afford. I'm sure PS4 is selling great - both Wal-Mart and Best Buy clearly had tons of stock eaten through near me - but you're going into a store, looking for a great value, and MS has the value to beat this year. There's just no comparison.

Yeah this is one the best deals MS had all year but i still don't think that guarante's them the month imo. Sony still has the mindshare going for them and the affect of friends buying the same consoles. That worked wonderfully for 360 last generation. But, who knows. And i still believe everyone is being too pessimistic about the GTAV bundle.


Speaking of;



I don't get the point of everyone posting pictures to prove XB1 is selling more? You could just as well say Sony shipped more PS4's that's why they're still in stock. I'm mean really. Didn't Abdiel say a Sony employee visited BB to discuss how much they expect to sell? These anecdotal pictures don't indicate total sales at all.
 

badb0y

Member
Yeah this is one the best deals MS had all year but i still don't think that guarante's them the month imo. Sony still has the mindshare going for them and the affect of friends buying the same consoles. That worked wonderfully for 360 last generation. But, who knows. And i still believe everyone is being too pessimistic about the GTAV bundle.

The Xbox 360 was also cheaper throughout the entire generation I believe.

EDIT: I would be shocked if Xbox One doesn't take November. Jesus, some of these deals are straight insane.
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
Yea, too bad many people have already played them last gen. Still not sure that to bundle those remasters was the right choice, though MS would beat them with their insane deals anyway.
Even more reason to throw in Rayman as an extra then because too few people already played it! ;)
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
Yeah, which they wouldn't be able to do if not for all their money. Nintendo and Sony couldn't just slash that huge price cut and throw in a load of games.

So we've come to the point where Sony can't compete, even if they do all the right things. Thus, MS can just keep trying their BS, because in the end, all they have to do is say, "Oopsie... well we gotta try... btw, our $700 Xbox Two? Yeah it's now $200 with 10 games."

That hasn't worked out with their Nokia Lumia phones....(then again Apple and Samsung can go toe to toe with MS when it comes to subsidies). I've always seen MS presence in the console video game market as a strategic presence to avoid a potential Apple, Google swoop in. Sega's demise opened the door for them.
 

ethomaz

Banned
So is the ps4 doomed or nah ?
Well it is already dominating Amazon again...

It is really unbelievable.

XB1 had the bundle way more time and reached #1 after a lot of updates in the hourly... PS4 first update goes to #2 and after #1.

Movers and Shakers shows:

620,700%
Sales rank: 1 (was 6,208)
 
Well it is already dominating Amazon again...

It is really unbelievable.

XB1 had the bundle way more time and reached #1 after a lot of updates in the hourly... PS4 first update goes to #2 and after #1.

Movers and Shakers shows:

620,700%
Sales rank: 1 (was 6,208)

Inb4 X1 sells 850k and PS4 840k in November.
 

Aroll

Member
I really want to get a PS4, but does anyone find it a bit odd that really the best "Black Friday" deal there is is a bundle with two last generation games updated for the PS4?

I mean, I can't justify the $400 purchase just because it comes with those two titles... since you know, I've already beaten them. Just doesn't really feel like a "deal", feels like something that should be packed in regardless.


I know I know, there are other ways to go, but the value doesn't seem to be there. It's alright, PS4 will sell just fine this holiday without me. Maybe my time will come at some point in 2015.
 
I really want to get a PS4, but does anyone find it a bit odd that really the best "Black Friday" deal there is is a bundle with two last generation games updated for the PS4?

I mean, I can't justify the $400 purchase just because it comes with those two titles... since you know, I've already beaten them. Just doesn't really feel like a "deal", feels like something that should be packed in regardless.


I know I know, there are other ways to go, but the value doesn't seem to be there. It's alright, PS4 will sell just fine this holiday without me. Maybe my time will come at some point in 2015.

There's also that LBP3 and LEGO Batman bundle.
 

Aroll

Member
There's also that LBP3 and LEGO Batman bundle.

True, but I'm not that big on LBP, and lego batman I already own.

I guess I am waiting for the true price drop. Even just a temporary 30 to $40 off is fine for me. 2015 holiday buy seems likely for me.

My Xbox One suffices for now.
 

hagege_s

Banned
Well it is already dominating Amazon again...

It is really unbelievable.

XB1 had the bundle way more time and reached #1 after a lot of updates in the hourly... PS4 first update goes to #2 and after #1.

Movers and Shakers shows:

620,700%
Sales rank: 1 (was 6,208)

All we know is that it's ahead of the Xbone bundle. But by how much ? It could be 1.000 or 100.000. I wish we knew.
 
True, but I'm not that big on LBP, and lego batman I already own.

I guess I am waiting for the true price drop. Even just a temporary 30 to $40 off is fine for me. 2015 holiday buy seems likely for me.

My Xbox One suffices for now.

There was a Newegg PS4 sale for US$329. Missed that one?
 

ethomaz

Banned
All we know is that it's ahead of the Xbone bundle. But by how much ? It could be 1.000 or 100.000. I wish we knew.
The impressive is how fast it gone #1... two hourly updates.

XB1 reached first slowing moving in the ranking... now it is #2.

The others SKUs are really doing great too for PS4.

#1 PS4 GTAV + TLOUR
# 2 XB1 AC
#17 PS4 LBP3 + LEGO
#80 PS4
#97 XB1 AC + Kinect

Sad Destiny bundle is not in the TOP100 anymore.
 
Obviously the Xbox One is selling better in US than the PS4 since 1st November ( Halo MCC, Sunset, AC Unity and 4Bundle )

Do you think PS4 will outsell in 3 days what Xbox One made in 28 when there is Xbox One + AC4 + ACUnity at 329$ ?

It's impossible, Xbox One won November NPD, without a doubt.
 

QaaQer

Member
Why do they deserve it? For the sheer skill of having unlimited money from their OS monopoly, thus being able to just recant on their vile policies last year and slash the price and throw in all the goodies they want, while being able to haemorrhage money?

haha, yeah...market distortions at its best. They can't go too far though, regulators don't like that shit, assuming the US still has regulators.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Obviously the Xbox One is selling better in US than the PS4 since 1st November ( Halo MCC, Sunset, AC Unity and 4Bundle )

Do you think PS4 will outsell in 3 days what Xbox One made in 28 when there is Xbox One + AC4 + ACUnity at 329$ ?

It's impossible, Xbox One won November NPD, without a doubt.

I believe who sell more in BF take November.

60% sales of the month are in BF using the NPD data for 360 in 2011 (750k in BF to 1.2m in the November).
 

Lemondish

Member
True, but I'm not that big on LBP, and lego batman I already own.

I guess I am waiting for the true price drop. Even just a temporary 30 to $40 off is fine for me. 2015 holiday buy seems likely for me.

My Xbox One suffices for now.

The Newegg deal was perfect for you, then. Hopefully there will be another like it sometime during Friday. Doubtful, but keep an eye out.
 

Amused

Member
Obviously the Xbox One is selling better in US than the PS4 since 1st November ( Halo MCC, Sunset, AC Unity and 4Bundle )

Do you think PS4 will outsell in 3 days what Xbox One made in 28 when there is Xbox One + AC4 + ACUnity at 329$ ?

It's impossible, Xbox One won November NPD, without a doubt.


The PS4 has been catching up on the monthly amazon stats for the last 8-10 days before BF. From 7th vs 16th to 10th vs -14th.

That being said, XBone has november in the bag. Sold more before BF (probably not all that much, given the development the last week), looks like it's killing it BF.

But by how much? My guess was 150k, but i guess it could be more.


How many consoles are normally sold BF? Anyone?
 
Front of the store right next to women's apparel on the isle.

Are you sure you're not shopping in Kohl's? It's okay though, they're sales are still tracked on NPD!

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I really want to get a PS4, but does anyone find it a bit odd that really the best "Black Friday" deal there is is a bundle with two last generation games updated for the PS4?

I mean, I can't justify the $400 purchase just because it comes with those two titles... since you know, I've already beaten them. Just doesn't really feel like a "deal", feels like something that should be packed in regardless.


I know I know, there are other ways to go, but the value doesn't seem to be there. It's alright, PS4 will sell just fine this holiday without me. Maybe my time will come at some point in 2015.

Shop around. Plenty of time for other deals to emerge.its only November
 
Obviously the Xbox One is selling better in US than the PS4 since 1st November ( Halo MCC, Sunset, AC Unity and 4Bundle )

Do you think PS4 will outsell in 3 days what Xbox One made in 28 when there is Xbox One + AC4 + ACUnity at 329$ ?

It's impossible, Xbox One won November NPD, without a doubt.

A month lost here and there isn't really gonna matter much in the grand scheme of things. Sony's numbers will be good in the US anyway and Worldwide they ain't got much to worry about!
 

EatMyFace

Banned
I really want to get a PS4, but does anyone find it a bit odd that really the best "Black Friday" deal there is is a bundle with two last generation games updated for the PS4?

I mean, I can't justify the $400 purchase just because it comes with those two titles... since you know, I've already beaten them. Just doesn't really feel like a "deal", feels like something that should be packed in regardless.


I know I know, there are other ways to go, but the value doesn't seem to be there. It's alright, PS4 will sell just fine this holiday without me. Maybe my time will come at some point in 2015.
So we are entitled to two free games? Why?
 
The X1 will likely still edge out for the one month of Nov in the one region of NA. WW though, the PS4 will likely continue to absolutely steam roll the X1, won't even be close.

If the Xbone only edges out the PS4 in November, MS' hundreds of millions style gamble has failed and they won't sanction anything as ludicrous as this again. I mean they can't exactly go much lower as it is.

With Xbone not able to haemorrhage more money than $330 with 2/3 games, it's now a question of how fast the PS4 can match that.
 
If the Xbone only edges out the PS4 in November, MS' hundreds of millions style gamble has failed and they won't sanction anything as ludicrous as this again. I mean they can't exactly go much lower as it is.

With Xbone not able to haemorrhage more money than $330 with 2/3 games, it's now a question of how fast the PS4 can match that.

And we still do not yet know if MS will bump the price back up. Maybe this holiday gamble was allowed by Satya and co only for the holiday, with the condition that it goes back up at least some after the holidays, like to $374.99 or something.
 
Yeah Sony really messed up with this bundle, two remasters and didn't lower the price. Speaks volume that the two best games they could bundle were remasters, really poor year for software from Sony.



Yet, isn't everyone praising Halo: MCC as the "must have" game on the Xbox One despite it's problems? Also, were these two remasters not received much more positively than both the Assassin Creed games bundled with the X1? A price drop would of been nice though with this bundle though I must admit, but I guess Sony figured it wasn't necessary. One factor that plays into this is X1 and PS4 has like 92% of the same games and consumers see that X1 is the cheaper option to play COD, Battlefield, Madden, GTA, etc so I am pretty sure the price discrepancy could make a noteworthy difference for Microsoft.
 
Been egging my brother (whos hasn't gamed in a while but was a big halo head back in the day) to pick up an Xbone for the last couple of weeks
so that I don't have to and still play MCC and SO
and he just texted me that he just bought this ps4 bundle. I'm pretty surprised. lol I don't think he even knows you need PS+ to play online

Edit:
This topic is about getting the bundle, why is it so hard to discuss musings in the right topic?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=940954

Sorry posted from mobile and didn't see this thread
 

quetz67

Banned
If the Xbone only edges out the PS4 in November, MS' hundreds of millions style gamble has failed and they won't sanction anything as ludicrous as this again. I mean they can't exactly go much lower as it is.

How can you know?

I fully expect them to keep the low price, announce $299 for E3 and should Sony react I see the XB1 at $199 holiday season 2015 (ok, maybe rather $249 bundled with 2 games).
 

samar11

Member
The most impressive conclusion from this Black Friday Bonanza is PS4 selling tremendous numbers despite the competition offering significantly more at a much lower price point.

Sony will take a beating for a few months, but if that beating equates to massve profits, exclusives, a more stable first party revenue stream; it would be the wisest decision going forward.

In any case, Microsoft has this month locked. Target clerk said they ordered more Xbox One's than PS4 in Renton, WA. Based on that alone, Microsoft has candy to spare in all the retail outlets.

Mate, your posts gives me a headache. Not sure if you are serious or fucking around :/
 

Lemondish

Member
Mate, your posts gives me a headache. Not sure if you are serious or fucking around :/

You should get your head checked. Everything he/she said was pretty straightforward and made sense. After all, there's a whole other world out there aside from units sold and it just might include something as batshit insane as revenue. Guess who gets to actually be in the black on Black Friday ;P
 
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