SonGoku
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Welcome to the next-gen analysis/speculation and rumors thread. Next-generation chatter is exciting but can also be very confusing. I've decided to put all the gossip, and info regarding next-gen consoles into this one thread. That way we can thoroughly discuss and analyze every sort of information that is being fed to us, and continue to talk about these exciting times in a orderly manner. Thanks!
Head here for PS3 vs 360 power arguments to avoid derailing this thread
Previous threads:
Wired Exclusive with Mark Cerny
PS5 official info:
Xbox Project Scarlett - E3 2019 - Reveal Trailer
Official Xbox Scarlet Specifications:
Next Gen related news/speculation/rumors:
AdoredTV Updated Navi Cards chart
Teraflops Peak Performance Lookup Table (Note: GCN limit is 64 CUs)
GDDR6 Bandwidth and size combinations
8th generation consoles silicon size
About software based RT
Things to look out for when searching for PS5 leaks
Head here for PS3 vs 360 power arguments to avoid derailing this thread
Previous threads:
PS5
RuthenicCookie who broke news of Sony not going to E3 says PS5 is a Monster (Details inside) 15-11-18
Supposed PS5 specs from random Beyond3D member (Silly but this is also how the 1st Wii U specs was leaked) 11-02-19
Rumor: PS5 To Introduce Playstation Plus Premium In 2020, Exclusive Betas And Private Servers. 08-04-19
[WIRED] Exclusive with Mark Cerny, PS5 specs detailed 16-04-19
Rumor: PS5 devkits ~ 13 TFLOPS 30-04-19
Sony: “Ultra-High-Speed” SSD Will Make Loading Screens “A Thing of the Past” 19-05-19
Next Box
Rumor: Next-Gen Xbox console may feature an internal physics engine 14-03-19
Next Xbox is ‘More Advanced’ Than the PS5 according to Insiders. 19-04-19
Pricing the Xbox Anaconda and Lockhart 30-04-19
Inside Microsoft’s Plans For The Next Xbox 10-05-19
AMD
AMD CEO Lisa Su describes key gaming partnerships with Sony, Microsoft: We're helping them with their 'secret sauce'. 14-09-18
AMD's next-gen PlayStation/Xbox chip moves closer to final version 13-04-19
AMD's Lisa Su confirms next-gen PlayStation to have Zen 2 and Navi 16-04-19
About the Arcturus meme... 19-04-19
AMD board leak hints at next-gen 'Navi' graphics tech 28-04-19
AMD Boss Teases chip to power PS5's "Secret Special Sauce"? 02-05-19
Latest Speculation from "known sources" points to Navi(GPU in next-gen consoles) having issues. 04-05-19
Devs/3rd Party
Interpoint Dev On Next-Gen Specs: Number of TFLOPS Not Worth Pursuing. 03-04-19
Next-gen could make it easier for AI programmers to create more complex games. 18-04-19
EA prepares technology for next-gen consoles. 10-05-19
RuthenicCookie who broke news of Sony not going to E3 says PS5 is a Monster (Details inside) 15-11-18
Supposed PS5 specs from random Beyond3D member (Silly but this is also how the 1st Wii U specs was leaked) 11-02-19
Rumor: PS5 To Introduce Playstation Plus Premium In 2020, Exclusive Betas And Private Servers. 08-04-19
[WIRED] Exclusive with Mark Cerny, PS5 specs detailed 16-04-19
Rumor: PS5 devkits ~ 13 TFLOPS 30-04-19
Sony: “Ultra-High-Speed” SSD Will Make Loading Screens “A Thing of the Past” 19-05-19
Next Box
Rumor: Next-Gen Xbox console may feature an internal physics engine 14-03-19
Next Xbox is ‘More Advanced’ Than the PS5 according to Insiders. 19-04-19
Pricing the Xbox Anaconda and Lockhart 30-04-19
Inside Microsoft’s Plans For The Next Xbox 10-05-19
AMD
AMD CEO Lisa Su describes key gaming partnerships with Sony, Microsoft: We're helping them with their 'secret sauce'. 14-09-18
AMD's next-gen PlayStation/Xbox chip moves closer to final version 13-04-19
AMD's Lisa Su confirms next-gen PlayStation to have Zen 2 and Navi 16-04-19
About the Arcturus meme... 19-04-19
AMD board leak hints at next-gen 'Navi' graphics tech 28-04-19
AMD Boss Teases chip to power PS5's "Secret Special Sauce"? 02-05-19
Latest Speculation from "known sources" points to Navi(GPU in next-gen consoles) having issues. 04-05-19
Devs/3rd Party
Interpoint Dev On Next-Gen Specs: Number of TFLOPS Not Worth Pursuing. 03-04-19
Next-gen could make it easier for AI programmers to create more complex games. 18-04-19
EA prepares technology for next-gen consoles. 10-05-19
PS5 official info:
PS5 devkit design leakedBackwards compatible with PS4 games(improvement in, at least, loading speeds)
SSD "faster than any current solution on PC gaming"
7nm 8 core AMD Zen 2 CPU
7nm AMD Radeon Navi GPU
Ray tracing supported
Up to 8K output supported
Up to 120 fps support
Not coming in 2019
"Appealing" price for "what you get" with the console
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Official Xbox Scarlet Specifications:
Zen 2 CPU
NAVI GPU
GDDR6 Memory (Likely 24 GDDR6 on a 384 bit bus)
Up to 8K output support
Up to 120 fps support
Ray tracing support - Hardware-accelerated
Variable Refresh Rate Support
SSD (Can be used as virtual memory)
Backwards Compatible
Next Gen related news/speculation/rumors:
Gonzolo's connection with PS5 speculation
PS5 and Xbox Scarlett Might Be Priced at $399, According to Michael Pachter...
Digital Foundry: AMD Zen 2/Navi Reaction + What It Means For Next-Gen Consoles
PlayStation 5 Is More Powerful Than Xbox Scarlett, According To Devs
Xbox Scarlett could be a generation forward respect the Playstation 5.
PS5 pastebin rumor
jeuxvideo leak
Scarlet/Anaconda (Snek), Arcturus rumor
PS5 and Xbox Scarlett Might Be Priced at $399, According to Michael Pachter...
Digital Foundry: AMD Zen 2/Navi Reaction + What It Means For Next-Gen Consoles
PlayStation 5 Is More Powerful Than Xbox Scarlett, According To Devs
Xbox Scarlett could be a generation forward respect the Playstation 5.
PS5 pastebin rumor
jeuxvideo leak
Scarlet/Anaconda (Snek), Arcturus rumor
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8th generation consoles silicon size
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Die Size Process Transistors Release Date
Wii U 146 40 0.8 Billion 2012
PlayStation 4 F 348 28 4~5 Billion 2013
PlayStation 4 S 208 16 4~5 Billion 2016
PlayStation 4 P 232 16 5.7 Billion 2016
Xbox One F 363 28 5.0 Billion 2013
Xbox One S 240 16 5.0 Billion 2016
Xbox One X 359 16 7.0 Billion 2017
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