Articate said:But the money was given to someone that doesn't give a shit about anything like that.
My bad I meant HaitiSaren is Bad said:What exactly is Hati?sarcasm, don't flip a shit
MrPliskin said:Christ almighty you people are dense.
Tampering - a : to interfere so as to weaken or change for the worse
Clearly he did this to "slow" the process. He changed the HDD from it's original state. He tampered with it. Fucking English. Christ.
Would you trust George Hotz's own lawyers? As I posted in the other thread:Shambles said:If we can't trust Sony's information about people they are going after who can we trust?
Under Rule 26(b)(2), the court must consider whether the discovery sought is
cumulative or duplicative, or can be obtained from some another source; whether the
party seeking discovery has had ample opportunity to obtain the information pursuant
to prior discovery in the action; and whether the burden or expense of the proposed
discovery outweighs its likely benefit. Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(2). Mr. Hotz is currently out
of the country, and to hail him into California for a deposition is unduly burdensome and
disruptive in the clearest sense of the phrase. This, coupled with the fact that the desired
information could just as easily be obtained from some other source that is more
convenient and less burdensome, requires a showing of good cause from the Plaintiff,
and an order effectuating such. See In re Google Adwords Litigation (N.D. Cal., 2010).
Indeed, the information sought is likely cumulative from the interrogatories already
provided to Mr. Hotz, rendering such deposition of dubious value. For these reasons,
Defendant seeks a protective order from this Court that limits the deposition of George
Hotz to a written deposition, in order to avoid undue burden and expense where the
information Plaintiff seeks could just as easily be obtained in written form.
Is there some other gaming consumer rights case going on right now? No? Well let's just lose our rights because you think geohot is an ass. Sounds good to me.Articate said:But the money was given to someone that doesn't give a shit about anything like that.
Noooo he was standing up to the man! Do you know what precedent it will set if Sony wins?! Take my $10 and figHT THE POWA!!jling84 said:Not feeling sorry in the least for the guy. Also not feeling sorry for people who donated. Yes, he's within his right to take a vacation, but really if you are that hard up for money, is a vacation at this moment the top priority? Maybe he should have gone and rented a Ferrari for his trip too.
Dali said:He may have just thought it was his property and was only willing to give what was asked for. Is it tampering if they ask for your mobo and don't give them the risers or screws? You can get a mobo/chip combo. Do you have to cough up the cpu if they request the mobo? He didn't weaken the evidence or change it at all. You're looking at the device itself as the evidence, when it's actually the data on the device.
Dali said:He may have just thought it was his property and was only willing to give what was asked for. Is it tampering if they ask for your mobo and you don't give them the risers or screws? You can get a mobo/chip combo. Do you have to cough up the cpu if they request the just the mobo? He didn't weaken the evidence or change it at all. You're looking at the device itself as the evidence, when it's actually the data on the device.
After I have a long stressful stretch in life, I generally take some time off and go hang out at a sunny beach. I'm guessing that's the logic behind his trip.jling84 said:Not feeling sorry in the least for the guy. Also not feeling sorry for people who donated. Yes, he's within his right to take a vacation, but really if you are that hard up for money, is a vacation at this moment the top priority? Maybe he should have gone and rented a Ferrari for his trip too.
hey_it's_that_dog said:Yup, that's exactly the next step if Geohot loses this case. Keep donating to keep this guy running from Sony!
RustyNails said:Noooo he was standing up to the man! Do you know what precedent it will set if Sony wins?! Take my $10 and figHT THE POWA!!
lol @ the people who donated, not just on NeoGAF. Y'all have been played for fools.
kamorra said:Please come back Dragona ;(
Alucrid said:Holy shit. First off, out0v0rder definitely didn't give him any money at all. He's a troll character. Second off even if he did, which is a stupid idea already, there's no way he could have foreseen the tsunami/earthquake in Japan months ago when he was asking for donations. Jesus...
Fair enough as long as he can continue his work .PsychoRaven said:Wow. The guy shows again why he's a piece of shit. Hope all those that donated to this idiot are happy knowing that he used them to either flee the country or take a vacation.
Zenith said:What's the significance of having a PSN account when previously claiming he didn't?
Mailenstein said:
Billychu said:Is there some other gaming consumer rights case going on right now? No? Well let's just lose our rights because you think geohot is an ass. Sounds good to me.
Clott said:What rights? the right for a manufacturer to protect it's billion dollar investment? Sorry but they can do what they please with their product.
Curufinwe said:He didn't say he was a pirate, he said he'd fit right in with all the piracy in Brazil, and Sony claims that geohot has facilitated piracy.
ha1f said:After I have a long stressful stretch in life, I generally take some time off and go hang out at a sunny beach. I'm guessing that's the logic behind his trip.
Shambles said:If we can't trust Sony's information about people they are going after who can we trust?
These "rights" you keep talking about.. you never had them to begin with. That is the ground that he is being sued on. Sony isn't trying to create a law here. They are defending him on existing laws (copyright infringement and DMCA). People were paying a guy, yes paying him, to support their "cause". To give them additional rights. To change the law. Giving the money to a guy who at the end of the day, doesn't really care about any of that.Billychu said:Is there some other gaming consumer rights case going on right now? No? Well let's just lose our rights because you think geohot is an ass. Sounds good to me.
Canova said:isn't this bannable meme now?
LQX said:Did he stand a chance of actually going to jail over this? What a idiot but I kind of find it obnoxious that the same people so happy at what he did and took advantage of it are now coming down on him.
Who wants to bet the Geohotz defense force are furiously googling looking for evidence that this isn't a big deal at all and that he is doing it on purpose to mess with Sony and knows what he is doing.TheChillyAcademic said:Poor MamaRobotnick...
Articate said:Again. He should've spent it on some real aid. You don't see me asking people to donate money to my vacation.
Dali said:He may have just thought it was his property and was only willing to give what was asked for. Is it tampering if they ask for your mobo and you don't give them the risers or screws? You can get a mobo/chip combo. Do you have to cough up the cpu if they request the just the mobo? He didn't weaken the evidence or change it at all. You're looking at the device itself as the evidence, when it's actually the data on the device.
Dali said:He may have just thought it was his property and was only willing to give what was asked for. Is it tampering if they ask for your mobo and you don't give them the risers or screws? You can get a mobo/chip combo. Do you have to cough up the cpu if they request the just the mobo? He didn't weaken the evidence or change it at all. You're looking at the device itself as the evidence, when it's actually the data on the device.
Evlar said:Would you trust George Hotz's own lawyers? As I posted in the other thread:
Motion for a Protective Order Filed by George Hotz, Filed March 17, 2011:
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federa...ifornia/candce/3:2011cv00167/235965/100/0.pdf
From page 6:
Shiggy said:Ten days later...
International arrest warrant issued for George Hotz
The Swedish National Criminal Police on Friday issued an international arrest warrant for George Hotz, the master of Apple iPhone hacks and inventor of a firmware hack for the PlayStation 3, Dow Jones Newswires reported.
Hotz had filed an appeal earlier Friday against a Swedish court order for the warrant on allegations of rape, his Swedish lawyer Bjoern Hurter told ABCDE.
The Stockholm district court ordered an arrest warrant be issued for Hotz on Thursday for questioning on probable cause suspected of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion in an IKEA store located in Houston, Texas, ABCDE reported.
The court order allowed Swedish prosecutor Marianne Ny, who had requested Hotz detention, to prepare an international arrest warrant.
Ny said on Thursday that arresting the 21-year-old Hotz was the only way she would be able to question him about the allegations. Hotz has been accused of raping one IKEA desk in Houston, Texas and sexually molesting another, charges he has denied.
MrPliskin said:Why? So people can get banned for voicing an opinion?
Clott said:What rights? the right for a manufacturer to protect it's billion dollar investment? Sorry but they can do what they please with their product.
If only people listened ;(Although I dont as strongly as this, I do sort of sympathize with him. 10k in debt with Sony's legal team staring at your face is tough place to be in for a 20 year old. But anyway, I'd rather donate to American cancer society and other more pressing charities than this dude. Best of luck though.