Drunkensamurai
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I tweeted the same reply and got blocked.
That says a lot about him.
I tweeted the same reply and got blocked.
This is a given.
Why does it even exist?
What has Tom said that you feels lacks integrity?
i'd argue the opposite
XSX GPU is 4 times more powerful , 4 times more resolution will not require 4 times the prossing power ''i geuss''
Wouldn’t that be 3 times as powerful? Lockhart would have a third of Series X GPU power.i'd argue the opposite
XSX GPU is 4 times more powerful , 4 times more resolution will not require 4 times the prossing power ''i geuss''
He said Lockhart have a slightly slower CPU speed than Series X and next said Lockhart and Series X will have the same CPU speed.
I mean, he have the devkit? He know someone who have the devkit? If so, why he keep changing his information? Is almost like he consult the Next Gen thread here for gather information.
Tom was the 1st to leak out Lockhart. So we know he has some insider.
Maybe the original plan was to have a slightly down clocked CPU. Possibly devs didn't like this because it might complicate development a little and they asked if they could match the speed of XSX' CPU.
Tom was the 1st to leak out Lockhart. So we know he has some insider.
Maybe the original plan was to have a slightly down clocked CPU. Possibly devs didn't like this because it might complicate development a little and they asked if they could match the speed of XSX' CPU.
Yeah, you can have the cheaper option but people have to want it over the PS5 or XSX. Cheap doesn't automatically mean it'll sellI've seen Xbox's on sale for under 200 euro here in Ireland... which is insane in what they call 'the rip-off republic'.
Releasing a cheaper Xbox will not move the needle, it results on more dev time being put into a platform that sells the least software and has a subscription service that undermines new releases......
It all comes together to make it the most developer unfriendly platform and I believe developers already are voicing their annoyance.
Because not everyone has 4k tvs or high refreash rate displays and you can save a whole lot of gpu power by limiting to 1080pThis is stupid. If it does all of that, then why Lockhart?
Wouldn’t that be 3 times as powerful? Lockhart would have a third of Series X GPU power.
This is stupid. If it does all of that, then why Lockhart?
Is still serves as an anchor.
Why not release Cyberpunk on Xbox 360? Developers have been building PC titles on multiple GPUs for decades.... right?
Oh that's right, because it would never run on the 360 and before long a game will come along that will never run on Lockheart and if a ton of Lockhearts are sold then that new game will get neutered fundamentally.
Your average gamer (or parent of gamer) wont know the specs and will be tricked into buying a gimped next gen console.
Im not a fan of the lockheart as leaked but this is silly. Microsoft studios have to already have to account for many versions since all their games are on PC. This won't harm nothing slower PC hardware will hold back series x more than lockheart. I rather had lockheart be 6tf with 9.5 gigs of useable ram that make for a nice entry device.Imagine believing having to share resources among making two different versions is the same as only making one version.
THEN SELL THE SERIES X FOR CHEAP LIKE CONSOLE MAKERS USED TO DOCHEAPER CONSOLES SELL MORE
Just scrolling through this guy's twitter.
Every single post is either about Microsoft or Xbox. He is senior editor at The Verge. Is he part of Xbox team at that website or something ?? Or is he meant to be reporting on other consoles too?
To not isolate thier base who don't have 4K and can't afford an XSX. Why is this such a divisive topic?This is stupid. If it does all of that, then why Lockhart?
THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY GREAT LOSS TO SELL THE SERIES X FOR THE PRICE THEY WILL SELL LOCKHART AT, THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE BOTH. ONE FOR ENTHUSIASTS AND ONE FOR NOOBS. HELLO I HOPE YOU'RE GOODTHEN SELL THE SERIES X FOR CHEAP LIKE CONSOLE MAKERS USED TO DO
Every single post is either about Microsoft or Xbox. He is senior editor at The Verge. Is he part of Xbox team at that website or something ?? Or is he meant to be reporting on other consoles too?
THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY GREAT LOSS TO SELL THE SERIES X FOR THE PRICE THEY WILL SELL LOCKHART AT, THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE BOTH. ONE FOR ENTHUSIASTS AND ONE FOR NOOBS. HELLO I HOPE YOU'RE GOOD
back in the day, console makers used to take the loss instead of trying to shove a shitty machine down their consumers throat. Sony took a $100 loss for both the PS1 and PS2 and a $250 for the PS3. MS did the same for the first two xbox.THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY GREAT LOSS TO SELL THE SERIES X FOR THE PRICE THEY WILL SELL LOCKHART AT, THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE BOTH. ONE FOR ENTHUSIASTS AND ONE FOR NOOBS. HELLO I HOPE YOU'RE GOOD
But I have been told that these average gamers/parents won't be gimped because they already buy the best and latest iPhone every year. There will be no confusion.
Honestly, I'm more worried about devs having to optimize for multiple systems.
The Rumored specs for Lockhart already Lap the X1X. 4 gigs of RDNA2(still unconfirmed) offers more processing power than 6 Flops of GCN. The GPU is stronger, the CPU is faster than the PS5, NVME vs HDD? Are you joking? Hardware accelerated Ray tracing, XVA, Machine learning. You're smarter than that comparison manMy comment isn't about comparing Lockheart to the 360.
I'm just pointing out that you can't make ANY game run on ANY hardware. There comes a point where that no longer becomes possible.
Xbox1X is a current gen console and Lockheart will be weaker. Imagine if all PS4 games were forced to also be on the PS3 all gen long. You think that might have a negative imact on what developers could do with games for PS4? Ofcourse it would.
back in the day, console makers used to take the loss instead of trying to shove a shitty machine down their consumers throat. Sony took a $100 loss for both the PS1 and PS2 and a $250 for the PS3. MS did the same for the first two xbox.
Back then they both had some pride over the piece of hardware they put out. Now it's a race to the bottom. no shame. imagine if sony had put out of a 400 gflops gpu with jaguar cores and a bluray drive. call it a 480p machine for CRT users. thats what a lockhart is. an excuse to sell more at the expense of the consumers. both the sorry folks that buy it and the ones who shell extra for a better machine.
Is still serves as an anchor.
Why not release Cyberpunk on Xbox 360? Developers have been building PC titles on multiple GPUs for decades.... right?
Oh that's right, because it would never run on the 360 and before long a game will come along that will never run on Lockheart and if a ton of Lockhearts are sold then that new game will get neutered fundamentally.
nah, my mistake is assuming fans of microsoft will call out their brand for shitty practices. two gens in a row with a weak underpowered console? fans come out of the woodwork to defend it.Your mistake is thinking Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft care about you and not their wallets.
nah, my mistake is assuming fans of microsoft will call out their brand for shitty practices. two gens in a row with a weak underpowered console? fans come out of the woodwork to defend it.
Because there’s a point where optimizing for the weaker console isn’t worth the extra dev time and it affects the final product quality significantly. Developers now probably don’t make sure their games run well on PCs with cards from 10 years ago but they probably provide options for cards from a couple of years ago. Targeting something super old might require that you make significant changes to your game. Whereas supporting Lockhart would probably just be a bit of extra work of adjusting some preset options that you are going to probably have tweakable for the likely millions of people who don't have cutting-edge GPUs on PC.Is still serves as an anchor.
Why not release Cyberpunk on Xbox 360? Developers have been building PC titles on multiple GPUs for decades.... right?
Oh that's right, because it would never run on the 360 and before long a game will come along that will never run on Lockheart and if a ton of Lockhearts are sold then that new game will get neutered fundamentally.
PAY ME DIRECTLY THANKS XHI! IS THIS THE YELLING CONVENTION!? WHO DO I PAY FOR PARKING?
Just going to correct you on something it doesn't matter which console dominates the other anymore, nowadays it's who can pay more between Sony or Microsoft from their own pockets. Sony wants more timed exclusives which lasts 1 year which is stupid business.Because there’s a point where optimizing for the weaker console isn’t worth the extra dev time and it affects the final product quality significantly. Developers now probably don’t make sure their games run well on PCs with cards from 10 years ago but they probably provide options for cards from a couple of years ago. Targeting something super old might require that you make significant changes to your game. Whereas supporting Lockhart would probably just be a bit of extra work of adjusting some preset options that you are going to probably have tweakable for the likely millions of people who don't have cutting-edge GPUs on PC.
Downgrading the game to run on Lockhart probbaly won’t be a big issue as it is likely powerful enough to run the same games at lower resolutions, frame rates or settings. Developers are already able to shove PS4 games on a switch and 360 games on an iPhone.
People are more concerned that Lockhart will prevent Anaconda (or the PS5) from being fully taking advantage of. But that’s just up to the devs. With the whole mid-generation upgrade, it shows major developers are completely fine with having one version performing/looking significantly better than the other. Developers are arguably probably going to likely want to focus on anaconda so that they can say that the graphics are running on an Xbox or in-engine but wont actually look that way on the Lockhart that most people could hypothetically have. Considering that a lot of games nowadays are allegedly demoed on an Xbox One X or PS4 pro. I also think that devs are probably going to pick the PS5 as their lead platform as it will likely sell significantly more and be easier to work with; and then worry about Xbox and PC after. If a developer decides, hey lets just make sure everything works on the weakest console, that's their decision. If you gave them a bunch of power they could also just as easily decide that they don't want to take advantage of it because they don't want the extra work.
In the past developers didn't do go above and beyond for one platform when doing multi-platform development but I don't think there's strong evidence that they design games around the weakest console. There's evidence of companies saying they want parity between similarly powered consoles. But again, the mid-gen upgrades, and PS4 fan backlash has shifted developers mindset in making sure there's parity to not caring.
Also, I don't know a whole about GPUs but other people on this board, digital foundry and other forums on the Internet seems to be in agreement that the newer GPU architectures from AMD provide considerably better real-world performance despite not sporting close or higher theoretical high performance measurements. So 4TF is a lot lower than the Xbox Series X but it's likely at least as powerful as an Xbox One X.
YOU DON'T! YOU PARK IN THE STREET AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TICKET!HI! IS THIS THE YELLING CONVENTION!? WHO DO I PAY FOR PARKING?
YOU DON'T! YOU PARK IN THE STREET AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TICKET!
WE HAVE TWO EVENTS "THE XSS WILL NERF THE NEXT GEN" IS ON THE MAIN STAGE
THE "I DON'T INTEND TO BUY AN XBOX BUT THIS TRIGGERS ME" EVENT IS ON AT 7PM
What if what he says is simply true? Does it lack integrity to say the facts? Or is every statement that isn't 'PS54EVA' fake news?Its so blatant.
"Senior Editor at The Verge"... Speaks volumes about the level of integrity at that site.