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Rutgers Univ. student jumps off bridge after his makeout session is secretly taped...
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Virtua Ben
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Shitty situation for everyone involved. This just goes to show that you never know how bad a prank/ asshole-move can go. I feel bad for the guy that committed suicide, but I know those other two are in a bad spot too (yes, I know they're alive).
DangerousMali
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MisterHero said:
They didn't kill him
reading some posts, it's as if as they did..
He should of sued the pants of them for invading his privacy, and not maybe just made a quick decision to just off himself, but that was his choice
Mercury Fred
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No, they just preyed on someone they knew was fragile and struggling.DangerousMali said:
MisterHero
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yes they accidentally uploaded a video and/or accidentally set up a live feed and/or accidentally dared people to log on at a certain time to view someone's private lifeDangerousMali said:
hypotheticals do NOT change that he is dead, and even if he hadn't died it doesn't diminish the severity of their choices
soundscream
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Put his name into youtube apparently its a sex tape of Molly and Ravi who knows if it real.Joe Shlabotnik said:
Mercury Fred
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Go read the NY Times story and take a look at the tweets from one of the two murderers.Fusebox said:
Mercury Fred
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what?Imm0rt4l said:
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
Mercury Fred said:
Manslaughter, maybe.
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DangerousMali said:
No, but they were a catalyst for what happened to him. They may as well have killed him as far as i'm concerned - I imagine that if they didn't exist, a poor set of parents somewhere would still have a son. That's not to say that they can be charged for murder (the law wouldn't allow it)... but by god they should be punished to such a degree.
MisterHero said:
He isn't accidentally dead either -- he chose to kill himself.
Do you support charging everyone with murder if they wrong someone who goes on to kill themselves?
They committed a crime and they should be punished for that crime (invasion of privacy).
I NEED SCISSORS said:
That is your standard? If they didn't exist he might not have killed himself? Guess every girl who breaks someones heart causing them to end it all should be punished to the same degree as murder as well. Nevermind the fact that we don't know, and likely never will know the full story of what led to him feeling he had no choice but suicide.
BattleMonkey
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GoutPatrol said:
Not even a maybe
Agent Ironside
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The guy was unstable no doubt in that, obviously the two people who pushed him to the point of doing this, well they are responsible in some way, but regardless, you cannot blame his death solely on them, the guy had major problems.
Technosteve
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yeah Davidson hall is a shit hole, but my friend says it was in Allen hall. I was lucky my room mate was a friend. There's some douche bags these days, i'm assuming they weren't even friends because usually the people you live with freshmen year are your best friends after college i still talk to them through facebook like 7 years after.
on a side note.... Rutgers GAF does the DC++ server still have breakfast meet ups? or did it become a soulless repository of porn after the founders graduated?
on a side note.... Rutgers GAF does the DC++ server still have breakfast meet ups? or did it become a soulless repository of porn after the founders graduated?
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sangreal said:
Uh, but it's true. If they didn't exist then yes, he would probably still be alive. There is a reason why I explicitly stated that the law cannot be changed - I understand this fully, but that is not to say that I can't have my own personal opinions about what should happen to them. Taking what i'm saying as literally as you are, is like looking at any 'heartbreaking news' thread on GAF and thinking that all the "leave them to rot" posts could actually become a reality. There is a difference between should and would.
ChefRamsay said:
Austin. It was a damn nice city and not the stereotype of Texas at all. It was a pleasant surprise. Albeit, I was only there for 5 days.
Either way, Texas = 1 out of 50. I won't deny that in a lot of places there are strong anti-homosexual sentiments, but there aren't daily fucking beatings of homosexuals like the other poster was suggesting in his earlier posts.
Guevara said:D-bag roommate and co-conspirator:
The picture of two persons who are never gonna be able to sleep again. Hope they get kicked out of college for that. That will be a nice story to tell to your kids : In college I was indirectly responsible for the death of a student. Poor guy
MisterHero
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Oh yes, he chose to kill himself after perhaps a long period of emotional trauma.sangreal said:
The two did those continued their antics after a short period of being dumbasses.
Again this is not about his suicide. If he hadn't killed himself the severity of the acts wouldn't have changed. Expulsion from the school and trial for 5-year-punishment seems more reasonable had he not died, not to mention emotional damages.
Should someone have to kill themselves to prove that other people's behavior was draining their ability to have a private life?
Let's build the case that not only did he kill himself, but that it was a moment of selfishness. Even then, the parents would care. Wouldn't they still want to seek justice because of the actions of the suspects?
Mercury Fred
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Ehn, they'll always be thought of as murderers in spirit.GoutPatrol said:
Technosteve
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i think we are going full on retard in this thread
How 'stable' would many of you be if your secret was shown on video to anyone who wanted to log on because some ass decided to broadcast it? 'Gay is fine' may be true for some people, but most gay people still struggle with it alot and from an early age. Just this week a 13 year old gay kid killed himself due to bullying.
I love how we have so many experts here, its great.
Some of you morans come up with the stupidest analogies that it hurts my brain. I guess at least that means one brain is working around here.
I love how we have so many experts here, its great.
Some of you morans come up with the stupidest analogies that it hurts my brain. I guess at least that means one brain is working around here.
ShinobiFist
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This is GAF fam, you know it.Wario64 said:
NobleXenon
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El Sloth said:
Yes, I'm in it right now. The two months I've been here it's been court ruling this and that. The Senate failing to do this and that. It just sad that in Canada, a gay person can get married on the military base with their immagrant partner, but in America, a gay person can't do any of that, or face career suicide and social discrimination.
Maybe its just bad timing on my part. There just seems like there are too many closet cases here, even those weird homophobic ones like that pastor and assistant attorney general.
ProfessorLobo
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Does anyone else feel that the kid wouldn't develop this kind of behavior unless his parents were huge homophobes?
I'm not trying to demonize someone without evidence, but there would have had to been a serious aversion to being a homosexual for someone to commit suicide from being outted.
I'm not trying to demonize someone without evidence, but there would have had to been a serious aversion to being a homosexual for someone to commit suicide from being outted.
markot said:
Yup.My guess is that he was pretty unstable because his secret was putting too much pressure on him. Saying the two idiots are not responsible is stupid. They basically exposed his secret and he couldn't take it. It's quite something they showed the pictures of the two losers and their names. They are tasting their own medicine in a way.
Mercury Fred
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MisterHero
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I actually never claimed they did. However, it's obvious that there was emotional impact from the incident(s) and that it was done intentionally by the room mates.D4Danger said:
If it's all they get charged with, I hope they get the full 5 years for invasion of privacy (and expulsion, if they aren't already expelled).
Harassment towards the students no matter how criminal is still a natural progression from their own actions. It doesn't end with the trial.sangreal said:
Not that I wish any on them that the law can't already accomplish fairly, but that's how it might be.
What are the laws in New Jersey concerning this?
Is the hidden sex tape a felony?
Whats are New Jersey's laws about felony murder? (Or would this be NY law)
This could be 2 count of felony murder depending on the state.
When I was taking a law class the professor stated if you rob a store and somebody falls off a ladder and dies because you caused shock to him can lead you to felony murder charges.
Is the hidden sex tape a felony?
Whats are New Jersey's laws about felony murder? (Or would this be NY law)
This could be 2 count of felony murder depending on the state.
When I was taking a law class the professor stated if you rob a store and somebody falls off a ladder and dies because you caused shock to him can lead you to felony murder charges.
NobleXenon said:
Yes, I recognize that large parts of our society is still very much against the idea of homosexuality and homosexuals in general, but there aren't random acts of violence against homosexuals happening frequently like you suggested in this post:
NobleXenon said:
I actually can't remember the last time I heard about hate crime against homosexuals in the news(In the U.S. anyways). Anyone know?
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sangreal said:
If it was hateful enough, then yes, I do think that. But again, that's not to say that we would be punished - it's just how I feel regarding bullies who push people over the edge. I'm sure at some point in your life you have hypothesised about doing something bad to someone you hate, but never acted on it - it's just a thought after all. Just like i'm hypothesising about how I would view the two people who did this.
Again, you need to recognise the difference between would and should.
NobleXenon
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El Sloth said:
Oh. I'll admit it was a hyperbole, but still, his life pretty much ended that night regardless. It takes a lot for someone to off themselves like this. If his parents and friends were homophobic and found out about him live on the net, this kid would pretty much be disowned and feel dead.
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