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Cross Assault Thread: Get Cross, taste Salt (SFxT Reality Show)

They honestly shouldn't be talking about the subject if they have no idea what is actually going on anyways.

Which is why they have tried contacting people to find out what's going on, yet they receive no response. They therefore have to work with what they have. This could all be solved if PEOPLE WOULD SPEAK UP AND NOT GIVE THE "YOU WREN'T THERE" DEFENSE.
 
But that's specifically why you need to prop up people who are more professional and tolerant of others, like say Valle versus throwing someone like Aris in there who was bound to stir the pot. At some point the immature drama turned into a real issue that highlighted the sexual harassment/sexism/racism that is turning many away from the hobby. If decent people stay quiet then all you're left with is hearing the loud putrid voices, and those people get mistaken for the majority. Don't like it? Speak up and tell the bigoted assholes to shut the fuck up lest they keep thinking that the FGC is a great place for them to be that way.

Couldn't agree more. Seems like it was a big mistake from Capcom with their choices this time.
 

Chavelo

Member
Tier List for the articles:

S+ Tier = Giant Bomb
A Tier = Penny Arcade
C Tier= Kotaku
Kotaku Tier = Destructoid

Nerf Kotaku. They got buffed too much, man.
 

d0c_zaius

Member
I think Markman and Valle are the best representatives of the FGC today.

Nothing against markman, but hes been known to say some "colorful" things when on the mic as well, which I like.

Hopefully the community doesn't get to "witch hunty", and uses this as an opportunity for positive change rather than an excuse to exile people.

Hey Ben kuchera and company where were you guys when this happned?

Oh man how did I miss that?!? Story really makes me sad. Would be amazing if he got a shred of the publicity this nonsense got. Duckie on the tech boards rules.
 

sephi22

Member
I keep hearing about getting rid of racism in the FGC, but I don't really see it and haven't heard anyone actually being discriminated against due to race.
People use the N word a lot, so media thinks FGC is racist.
People say bitch a lot, so media thinks FGC is sexist.
People say gay/f*gg*t a lot, so media thinks FGC is homophobic.

Yes, these are present in the FGC, but most of this comes from stream monsters. People go onto streams to watch tournaments, see the vitriol in the chat, make conclusions. We wouldn't have so many accusations if there weren't streams or stream monsters, but there wouldn't be any exposure either.

Its funny that a white guy can say 'the fuck you doing *n-word*?' at a black guy at a tourney and get no retaliation, but if a guy says 'Yo. You're ass in this game. I can body you for free, bitch.' it comes to fisticuffs.
 

notworksafe

Member
But that's specifically why you need to prop up people who are more professional and tolerant of others, like say Valle versus throwing someone like Aris in there who was bound to stir the pot. At some point the immature drama turned into a real issue that highlighted the sexual harassment/sexism/racism that is turning many away from the hobby. If decent people stay quiet then all you're left with is hearing the loud putrid voices, and those people get mistaken for the majority. Don't like it? Speak up and tell the bigoted assholes to shut the fuck up lest they keep thinking that the FGC is a great place for them to be that way.

I'll cut you some slack here because you obviously don't know much about the FGC but please don't bring up racism. That is beyond ridiculous. If the FGC has something under control, it is respect for all races. I've never seen race come up as an issue in any stream or tourney (online or in person).

The others are arguable, but please don't call the FGC racist. We're about as far from that as you can get, especially when compared to other gaming scenes.
 
Which is why they have tried contacting people to find out what's going on, yet they receive no response. They therefore have to work with what they have. This could all be solved if PEOPLE WOULD SPEAK UP AND NOT GIVE THE "YOU WREN'T THERE" DEFENSE.

Lol, they're pretty passive for people who want to know what's going on.

Plus, I'd much rather for Cross Assault to finish up and all the shit dies down before people involved begin giving their statements. D:
 

SamVimes

Member
I'll cut you some slack here because you obviously don't know much about the FGC but please don't bring up racism. That is beyond ridiculous. If the FGC has something under control, it is respect for all races. I've never seen race come up as an issue in any stream or tourney.

The others are arguable, but please don't call the FGC racist. We're about as far from that as you can get, especially when compared to other gaming scenes.

Especially considering that white people are actually a minority in competitive fighting games.
 

sephi22

Member
The FGC is racist? Do tell, Devo. Do tell.
I'll cut you some slack here because you obviously don't know much about the FGC but please don't bring up racism. That is beyond ridiculous. If the FGC has something under control, it is respect for all races. I've never seen race come up as an issue in any stream or tourney.

The others are arguable, but please don't call the FGC racist. We're about as far from that as you can get, especially when compared to other gaming scenes.

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that. Sexism is the biggest problem in the FGC then I guess.
 
Haunts and KOR are having a pretty sensible conversation on stream. For those of you wanting to get away from the drama and go back to fighting game talk, check the TEKKEN Stream.
 

d0c_zaius

Member
Apparently this was many peoples first exposure to Aris (seeing him in person and on streams).

Interesting how they think its ok to bash him because of appearance or nationality because they feel justified, then they also say he is in this because hes a sexless loser.

Little do they know he hated on everyone the same.

Probably the best thing about this, is seeing how everyones reactions are busting how things about themselves.

Not me though, cause I'm perfect.
 

Axis

Member
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that. Sexism is the biggest problem in the FGC then I guess.

Even then that's just an extremely small portion...I've met no one within the community at any event that I'd consider racist or sexist in the least. But hey, could just be me. I'm sure with her extensive knowledge of the FGC that she obviously knows better than me.
 

sephi22

Member
Probably the best thing about this, is seeing how everyones reactions are busting how things about themselves.
This is true.
Aris has always been 'raw'. Still is.

But reactions of guys like Marn and Watson have been eye opening. This show has been the best and worst thing to happen to the FGC.
 

ponpo

( ≖‿≖)
I care so little about this 'drama' but when it's over someone needs to ou together all the Triforce moments for me. Craziest / funniest person in the fgc.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
I care so little about this 'drama' but when it's over someone needs to ou together all the Triforce moments for me. Craziest / funniest person in the fgc.

Dear god I hope this rant is getting archived... this man is drunk with power and/or absolutely mentally deranged.
 
Haunts and KOR are having a pretty sensible conversation on stream. For those of you wanting to get away from the drama and go back to fighting game talk, check the TEKKEN Stream.

You think we got to 10k in a week because we like drama?

J/k man, good to know there is some sensibility coming around.
 
Especially considering that white people are actually a minority in competitive fighting games.

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sephi22

Member
Even then that's just an extremely small portion...I've met no one within the community at any event that I'd consider racist or sexist in the least. But hey, could just be me. I'm sure with her extensive knowledge of the FGC that she obviously knows better than me.
The most vile shit I've heard from anyone in the FGC against a female has been from Yipes. It was in the Viper vs Sakura match at Season's beatings (Cross Counter VOD), and Yipes was talking to LI Joe last night about how they're chill dudes, not sexist and welcome all females into the FGC.

If you guys want, I can upload the audio to youtube. Its cringe worthy.
 

d0c_zaius

Member
This is true.
Aris has always been 'raw'. Still is.

But reactions of guys like Marn and Watson have been eye opening. This show has been the best and worst thing to happen to the FGC.

bah busting "OUT" things about themselves, not "how". Hype has me typing dumb.

Probably the most disappointing was Flash Metroid. He really comes off like an asshole, hating on everyone because they arent at his "level", hating on Miranda.

Him preaching so much about how godly SFxT is also makes me nervous since he can flake out and not like something two weeks later.

Marn and Watson are super predicabol. Well I'm managed to remove some people from twitter and such as now I don't care about their opinion on anything.

The most vile shit I've heard from anyone in the FGC against a female has been from Yipes. It was in the Viper vs Sakura match at Season's beatings (Cross Counter VOD), and Yipes was talking to LI Joe last night about how they're chill dudes, not sexist and welcome all females into the FGC.

If you guys want, I can upload the audio to youtube. Its cringe worthy.

THIS is what I was alluding to in an earlier post. People (especially commentators) SHOULD NOT BE THROWING STONES. If you are going to call out Aris because its "popular", you are basically asking for yourself to be put under a microscope. Hipocrite = fraud.
 
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