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Proper support for Wii U GamePad for PC is imminent (incl. video streaming)

Cbajd5

Member
I guess you'll also need a new specific 5Ghz USB hardware wifi dongle to transmit. I wonder how much they will be?

I think most modern WLAN dongles already support 5Ghz, at least mine does. It came with my router (Fritz!Box 7390, available since 2010) and only costs 30€ for the stick itself.

The drclib website states this about the dongles:

Required hardware
Connecting a Wii U GamePad to a computer requires compatible Wi-Fi hardware. Any Wi-Fi NIC that can create access points on 5GHz 802.11 channels could potentially work. In practice, the following drivers/NICs were tested:
  • rt2800usb: works with Linux >= 3.11
  • ath9k/carl9170: works with some caveats (communication might desync more often because of a TSF drifting issue)

I'm guessing this would be a good basis for what would be required in the future.
 

tkscz

Member
It does, says so right in the OP. Why don't you normally say anything about emulators though?

As I know too many people who use them for straight up pirating. Makes me a little a shame to use them, as I only used them to play games I can't find or cost a fortune when I do find them.
 

Alex

Member
The screen is pretty poor, but I'd still goof around with it for certain indie and older games, might be fun if it works well.
 

King_Moc

Banned
Does the gamepad scale the image down, or does the Wii U/PC do that? It would be amazing if you could get the PC to render in 1080p, then have it appear in 480p on the gamepad. It might be low res, but that image will be hyper-pristine.
 

Platy

Member
Woah this is awesome. Theres a lot of indie games I'd love to play on a portable device.

More like

Woah this is awesome. Theres a lot of drawing programs I'd love to play on this portable device.

I don't care if it isn't pressure sensitive.
Lagless cintiq for less than 300 and comes with a Mario/Smash bros machine
 

Zoc

Member
Sounds like awesome work but how likely is it that this will ever enable low-latency streaming of all PC games? IRC, games must be on a supported list to be streaming by the Nvidia Shield, indicating that some kind of low-level driver magic is happening there.

Will somebody have to step forward and write new software to encode and transmit the PC display signal, or is there existing software to do so? If existing software will have to be adapted, how difficult will it be to keep the latency down?

The only thing I have confidence in is that streaming will be built in to the next version of Dolphin and other emulators, but I'm worried that reliable, low latency streaming of other games will never happen.
 

scitek

Member
Could the in-home streaming that Steam is soon to be getting not be somehow hacked and taken advantage of for this?
 

Alo81

Low Poly Gynecologist
Could the in-home streaming that Steam is soon to be getting not be somehow hacked and taken advantage of for this?

The WiiU gamepad is just a screen that can wirelessly receive a signal.

If you can set it up to be a second display then you would just play your games on your "second monitor". No real need for in-home streaming.

Buy games, dickhead.

Emulation doesn't imply piracy duder.

The idea of running a DS emulator where the top screen is my TV and the bottom screen the touchpad (If the touchscreen worked omg) would be absolutely awesome.
 
The WiiU gamepad is just a screen that can wirelessly receive a signal.

If you can set it up to be a second display then you would just play your games on your "second monitor". No real need for in-home streaming.



Emulation doesn't imply piracy duder.

The idea of running a DS emulator where the top screen is my TV and the bottom screen the touchpad (If the touchscreen worked omg) would be absolutely awesome.

Yeah, I'm sure they'll be just demoing the games.
 

Kokonoe

Banned
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Mariolee

Member
Would be hilarious if this leads to a significant amount of Wii U sales of all things. Someone add "PC gaming" to the save Wii U chalkboard.
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
This was exciting till I remembered that I can't take the gamepad out of the room without it telling me to come back. Will PC streaming have a different kind of connection or the same kind that needs to be close to work?
 

Fantastical

Death Prophet
This was something I had dreamed would happen for the Wii U! So happy that it's becoming reality. I really want to try this.

Xenoblade in Dolphin on the Wii U gamepad. :O
 

Reversed

Member
For the interested, the video of the device runs simple applications (and wind waker).

If I can start an X/Wayland session on that bad boy, I might get one. :)
 

Anth0ny

Member
Hmm, this is cool but I'm not sure how useful it would be for me. The main convenience the gamepad brings to me is being able to browse GAF/do stuff on my PC while playing Wii U games. Streaming from my PC to the gamepad... Isn't all that convenient.
 

Phionoxx

Member
Wow, this is certainly exciting news. Will have to keep an eye on this and follow any updates. Having full access to Steam library on the Wii U Game Pad would be outstanding. For me, FTL jumps immediately to mind. Might be tough to implement a good control scheme though for FTL.
 
This was exciting till I remembered that I can't take the gamepad out of the room without it telling me to come back. Will PC streaming have a different kind of connection or the same kind that needs to be close to work?

It's not like you're changing the hard physical limitations of the hardware inside the pad. I doubt it's range will change much, although it can maybe get a practical boost if you modify where your WiFi AP rests in relation to your usual play area.
 
More like

Woah this is awesome. Theres a lot of drawing programs I'd love to play on this portable device.

I don't care if it isn't pressure sensitive.
Lagless cintiq for less than 300 and comes with a Mario/Smash bros machine

Art Academy Scratch Pad is already godly, but I've been waiting for a proper digital drawing app since the damn WiiU launched. It boggles my head that Colors isn't available for it yet, given how active the 3DS community still is. (albeit it's mostly anime stuff now) but artists like MO.SAID, or Josh Hook continuously produce some awe inspiring stuff.

Btw, I actually might buy a second WiiU for this, so I can use that to mod later on.
 

K.Sabot

Member
I might just buy a Wii U now, this functionality would greatly benefit me.

Like, I could play VC3 through the Emulator on the Wii U controller right? Thereby making a game I can play in bed (which is god tier gaming).
 

Rich!

Member
I might just buy a Wii U now, this functionality would greatly benefit me.

Like, I could play VC3 through the Emulator on the Wii U controller right? Thereby making a game I can play in bed (which is god tier gaming).

Yep.

Related, I could load up retroarch and then have 60hz SNES titles on the gamepad, including Yoshi's Island rather than the shitty 50hz crap we are given here in the UK by Nintendo.
 
Remote gaming in your bed is the last thing missing from PCs to catch up with consoles' convenience. Yeah, there's Nvidia Shield but it's expensive and no one cares about android gaming.

Ever since I put my hands on a Wii U controller my first thought was "I would be great to have something like that on PC".
 
This was exciting till I remembered that I can't take the gamepad out of the room without it telling me to come back. Will PC streaming have a different kind of connection or the same kind that needs to be close to work?
They said they one of the things they eventually want to make it work with is your wireless internet connection (instead of the Wii U's built-in connection).

Will this be so much different to wii bc xenoblade though?
The difference is that playing Xenoblade on your Wii U, you can only use the Gamepad as a screen. By this thing, you could use it as a controller also.
 

Son Of D

Member
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Will this be so much different to wii bc xenoblade though?

Well you could use the GamePad as a controller as well instead of having to just use it as a screen. DKCR and Smash Bros on the GamePad sounds so good as well.

If this works out fine, then I'll just use this as a pseudo N64 VC using games I still own.
 

schwupp

Member
there was another amazing bit they announced in the talk:
streaming of wii u to the gamepad over the internet.

hopefully they pursue this approach :)
 

wsippel

Banned
I think most modern WLAN dongles already support 5Ghz, at least mine does. It came with my router (Fritz!Box 7390, available since 2010) and only costs 30€ for the stick itself.
You need more than just 5GHz support. If you watch the actual presentation, working dongles are actually quite rare, and the few that do support all the required features apparently only do it on Linux because the features are not enabled in the Windows drivers. So you'll apparently need custom drivers to use this on Windows, which means you'll always be limited to a few chipsets.
 
The ROT3 protocol obfuscation is adorable.

Does the gamepad scale the image down, or does the Wii U/PC do that? It would be amazing if you could get the PC to render in 1080p, then have it appear in 480p on the gamepad. It might be low res, but that image will be hyper-pristine.
The GamePad just receives a H.264 video stream at its screen resolution. That means it has to be encoded on the PC. Depending on what your PC can handle, you could either render directly at 854x480 or downscale a game that's rendered on the higher resolution. I wonder what the best approach for that would be; building a "dummy" display driver that encodes and sends video over network or some separate screen/render capturing software to do it. In the end it probably doesn't make much of a difference, since in both cases you need to first render graphics, then read them back out, send them to a video encoder and then send the stream over network.
 
If this gets wide support maybe this would kill Nvidia Shield. Maybe.
You imply that Shield was ever alive in the first place.
It wouldn't really need support. It's just a video stream of whatever is playing plus controller input. If it works even remotely well it'll kill the Shield.
 
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