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Killzone Shadow Fall is the best looking next gen launch game
- Thread starter Canis lupus
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How old are you? Is this your first generation?
95% of the games on 8 and 16-bit machines were 60 fps, a huge portion of the PS2 library was 60 fps, as were loads of XBOX, Gamecube, and Dreamcast games. Even this gen still has its fair share, though fewer than the previous gen.
BloodMoney
Banned
why are we comparing KZ:SF and Ryse....?
there is no comparison to be made. Shadow Fall looks superior.
there is no comparison to be made. Shadow Fall looks superior.
iamshadowlark
Banned
On my phone the screens look downsampled. If you say they aren't and can look at them full rez than so be it.
People forget so soon. Last gen made console gamers truly ghetto gamers. Piss poor performance and IQ in every single game thanks to non native resolution, low quality filtering, blur, AA solutions and sub 30 framerates. What a nightmare it was.
Because the single player is 30? It seems very much like Driveclub in a way, they both went for 30 but was surprised that the competition went for 60.
Always-honest
Banned
This is how Killzone Shadowfall looks when you play it (in multiplayer).
Singleplayer will look better.
are you f.. kidding me??.. On a phone????
Yeah on a phone a Wii game will look like a downsampled high end pc game. Come on son.
velociraptor
Junior Member
We have direct feed footage of the game. It already looks better than those 'bullshots'. Not sure why people are still using that card. Heh.
There's just something very sterile about the game, maybe the lighting is flat or the assets too generic, but it kinda looks like a tech demo and not a finished artistic vision.
shinobi602
Member
BloodMoney
Banned
^ clap clap clap
Dude..come on. Every console screen looks downsampled on a phone.
lol, that's rich
iamshadowlark
Banned
My phone displays up to 1080p just fine, thank you. Maybe kill zone looks a lot better than I thought but I can zoom in quite a bit before anything resembling aliasing manifests.
That's the thing. No, they don't.
Dude... multiple cascades is for more accuracy near the camera, it doesn't have anything to do with bounces.
There is some kind of iteration variable, which is not the same as bounces but only some kind of propagation of SH coefficients... all I can see is that on Crytek's page they say it "can be extended" to include multiple bounces, but I don't think any of their games actually implements it.
Crytek - the one bounce wonder! Bwahahahahahahah!
Wickerbasket
Member
Are we doing graphics comparisons using 5 inch screens now? Is that the new thing we're doing?
BloodMoney
Banned
Apparently.
I'm going to stop watching blu-ray on my 55inch plasma & monster home theater sound system and instead and just watch them on my phone with headphones... maximum fidelity yo
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
You say this like you saw anything better in games you have played, plus it's not like they don't do tons of fake lights on every level too.
WHOAguitarninja
Member
Can you name one game which has more than one bounce for GI? Even having one is pretty uncommon.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
iamshadowlark is obviously a troll. You guys are wasting your time.
Yes, let's completely forget about SSDO and Image Based Lighting.
Yes, let's completely forget about SSDO and Image Based Lighting.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Time to get that Lens Crafters app then.
Poor excuse but now you know, they are not bullshots.
Future PhaZe
Member
BF4 beats it
But its the best looking exclusive console shooter ATM, not that there are that many...but yea
But its the best looking exclusive console shooter ATM, not that there are that many...but yea
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
How does BF4 beat it? We've seen mainly cam footage. If you're talking PC then I may give you something but to me, BF4 looks like a slightly better BF3. Yes it has better destruction but I'm not as impressed with BF4 as I am with KZ.
It's not even just shooters but the best of the launch bunch.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Oh really?
I see just fine. Really though its not that big of a deal. If they aren't bullshots then fine my points still stand...
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Good news, they are not.
Oppo
Member
Of course the DPI is way higher on your phone than a 50" TV, surely that's obvious...?
iamshadowlark
Banned
Yes that's obvious. It's also obvious that with one gesture I can zoom in on any image.
Future PhaZe
Member
Are PC games not next gen or something?
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
This thread is starting to remind me of the guy who claimed he could count the number of polygons just by looking at a screenshot.
Now we have people claiming bullshots because they're using their smartphone.
You just gotta love new console launches.
Now we have people claiming bullshots because they're using their smartphone.
You just gotta love new console launches.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I don't understand this either, theres not many I'd call next gen if at all but there are next gen PC games in development.
next gen isn't exclusive to consoles.
iamshadowlark
Banned
No, I claimed bullshots because they were PR shots released by Sony. I know, companies never ever release bullshots. Looking on my phone, I still couldn't see any noticeable aliasing so yeah I thought they were downsampled. And no, my phone doesn't scale images to fit the screen so it received no downsampling from the browser either...
megabytecr
Member
Yes, but it is very close to Ryse. The funny thing is that neither of those games appeal to me.
I hope next gen shows better weather simulation, special effects, animation, ai, and gameplay changes, if not even this graphics will get old really fast.
I hope next gen shows better weather simulation, special effects, animation, ai, and gameplay changes, if not even this graphics will get old really fast.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
This post.
shinobi602
Member
Wow...........
Look, the gameplay looks just as good as the screens, if not better.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Again,
Fine, they aren't bullshots. That helps my point. Now what? What are we still talking about exactly?
BloodMoney
Banned
who wants to tweet GG and ask if the flamethrower will return?
Nobody is saying the game doesn't look good, but to be fair, those shots have a little more AA than usual... It is what it is, no need to dramatize it either way.
BloodMoney
Banned
insane in the membrane
shinobi602
Member
They really don't, looks the exact same.
There's now a under-slung flametrower attachment to go with the standard shotgun/grenade launcher attachment apparently.
BloodMoney
Banned
whaaaaaa, is there any video of the flame effect?
SniperHunter
Banned
GG isn't using MSAA, they were researching a new AA better suited to PS4's capabilities. The CryEngine is ages ahead of what GG is doing and also more refined (CryTek has already released Crysis 2, Crysis 3 and Warface already), this is GG's first foray into dx11/next gen.
At the end it will boil down to art direction, and the recent Crytel games all have "bad art" IMO. Good art can make all the difference IMO (Bioshock infinite vs Crysis 3, thought Infinite looked better because of the art design)
Dictator93
Member
In this .gif you can see the strange LOD imperfections with the smoke plumes hitting the wall in the last few seconds. Only when he is about 7-10 meters from the wall do the particles start getting lit by the nearby light.
I like the effect when the character walks through the shield though.
Me too. Love being able to customize weapons in SP. Loved Crysis 1/2 and MGS4 since you could do it all on the fly.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Just because Cryengine is capable of features doesn't mean that they make it into every game.
Dictator93
Member
Just their main series games (crysis, ryse etc...). They usually push tech actually when they throw it in games.
But now that their RnD staff are together with the engine licencing staff... that may change.