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Killzone Shadow Fall is the best looking next gen launch game

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KKRT00

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Blimblim said:
D/B roll is not supposed to be posted as is. It's to be used in coverage of a game or multiple games, but should absolutely not be used without editing and commentary. That's also why we didn't post the Killzone MP b-roll either for example. Youtubers do whatever the fuck they want with little consequences, we definitely can't do that.
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Oh, thats pretty awful ;\ Dont understand why they put 720p crappy version of trailer, when they have internally 3gb 1080p video. PR agencies are so bad.
 
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novell

Neo Member
I can't believe that this game runs in 1920x1080p @ 60 fps... Anyone can tell me when did Guerrilla confirm that?
 
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KennyLinder

Member
These GIFs are making my computer choke :D

KZ looks amazing
Titanfall looks amazing

We all win! Is there direct feed of Titanfall @60? That explosion is crazy.
 
Gun Animal

Gun Animal

Member
Brashnir said:
Who cares if it still plays like a Killzone game...
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I wouldn't write it off so fast, everything we've seen so far points to a completely different kind of First Person Shooter from Killzone. The singeplayer seems a lot more strategy oriented (as opposed to linear cover-shooting) and the multiplayer is doing a hell of a lot of things right, like opening up all classes and weapons from lvl one and not dividing the playerbase by making all DLC maps free. Give it a chance, yo.
 
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repeater

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Cisce said:
They confirmed this week that it's 30fps in single player and 60fps online.
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To be exact, they've only confirmed that they're targeting 60 fps in multiplayer. We all hope they can accomplish that (I'm getting the game as one of my launch titles) but it's a lot easier to confirm you're targeting a certain framerate than to actually pull it off.
 
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abic

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repeater said:
To be exact, they've only confirmed that they're targeting 60 fps in multiplayer. We all hope they can accomplish that (I'm getting the game as one of my launch titles) but it's a lot easier to confirm you're targeting a certain framerate than to actually pull it off.
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What's this rubbish? All you get for ANY game that is not released is just what the developer is targeting.

The same conditional applies to Titanfall then; "aiming for 60fps", or XBONE's new snap UI "aiming to be flawless".. bla bla bla.

This bullshit reply, which I've seen multiple times from the FUD brigade, that targeting 60fps is somehow distinct from saying directly that it's 60fps in multiplayer, is dishonestly applied specifically to K:SF.
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Member
I need to get myself a new TV for next gen.
I'm still rocking an old HDMI TV when it just started with one HDMI port and it only goes up to 1080i
 
Caayn

Caayn

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Jack cw said:
Yes, better than any of your triple a on rails floating shooters...
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Funny guy. How do you want to have a realistic shooter experience with a gamepad? I've played both Killzone 2 and 3. But those games just had bad controls. "Realisme" is no excuse for that.
 
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Jack cw

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Caayn said:
Funny guy. How do you want to have a realistic shooter experience with a gamepad? I've played both Killzone 2 and 3. But those games just had bad controls. "Realisme" is no excuse for that.
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Whats really funny is your elitist attitude - keyboard and mouse... yes, the holy grail of gaming :D You must be a pretty lousy gamer then if you cant handle Killzones controls.
 
Caayn

Caayn

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Jack cw said:
Whats really funny is your elitist attitude - keyboard and mouse... yes, the holy grail of gaming :D You must be a pretty lousy gamer then if you cant handle Killzones controls.
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Uhmm... Where did I ever mentioned keyboard and a mouse. If any my avatar should give away that I'm a mainly a Xbox gamer ;)
Yes, I feel like a mouse at a party full of cats here :p

But thanks for showing that you couldn't come up with a proper counter by attacking me directly. And for the record just because I think the Killzone controls are bad, doesn't mean that I couldn't "handle" or adept to them. I just think that they're bad.
 
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LeeRoyBrown

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I'm really torn as KZ4 looks like the sex, where as BF4 looks like the sex, but I would want to get it on PC, and my Laptop will probably run BF4 worse than on Console and Origin is a piece of shit I just don't want to deal with ever again.
 
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The Xtortionist

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LeeRoyBrown said:
So, will the majority of Gaf be getting KZ4 or BF4?
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I was going to get both originally. BF4 for 60FPS and Killzone for raw fidelity at 30FPS. Then I saw the Killzone footage and read that it was targeting 60FPS in multiplayer. I prefer infantry games anyway so I'm probably just getting KZ now.
 
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GHG

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How is this even a debate? It blows every other launch title out the water. The only thing that comes close is infamous:ss but that doesn't come out till next year.
 
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McLovin

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Wait people comparing it to BF 4? BF 4 didn't even look that good on the dev kits, its suppose to look worse on the actual ps4 hardware. BF 4 is a cross-gen multi-platform game, some of you guys are setting yourself up for disappointment.
 
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repeater

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abic said:
What's this rubbish? All you get for ANY game that is not released is just what the developer is targeting.

The same conditional applies to Titanfall then; "aiming for 60fps", or XBONE's new snap UI "aiming to be flawless".. bla bla bla.

This bullshit reply, which I've seen multiple times from the FUD brigade, that targeting 60fps is somehow distinct from saying directly that it's 60fps in multiplayer, is dishonestly applied specifically to K:SF.
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I never intended any of the things you are accusing me to be part of, really. I think it's obvious that the same conditional should apply to e.g. Titanfall. I'm not sure what the FUD brigade is but as far as I know, I'm not a part of it. I was simply getting the impression that a lot of people thought GG had gone on record as stating that the game is guaranteed to run at 60 FPS in MP, and I thought that a bit unfortunate as GG have in fact been more modest. It would be a shame if people would be raging against GG post-release because they thought they were promised a solid 60 FPS in multiplayer and they didn't get it.
 
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ryanmac

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I have never liked a single Killzone game.. but you have to be crazy to deny this looks good and this thread has taught me there are a lot of crazy people out there!
 
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Always-honest

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ElectricKaibutsu said:
I'm just glad jaggies and low-res textures are a thing of the past.
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Jaggies a thing of the past?... not at all, unfortunately.
There is plenty of jaggy related stuff in the Killzone vid too. Especially shimmering lines that are caused by jaggies.

But the jaggies are much smaller now due to resolution at least... But a great cheapo way of Anti aliassing would still be great.

TheKayle said:
best next gen title? no sorry just no
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you missed a word.
 
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iamshadowlark

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KKRT00 said:
Low res textures? Pretty standard. Have You tried to capture textures in KZ:SF trailer?
Its not really good way of showing texture, but here are some.
http://i3.minus.com/ibyqWrflS4v4ou.png
http://i5.minus.com/ic4LURSUJ8TuG.png
http://i7.minus.com/ivJNVhGVgNQRD.png
http://i6.minus.com/ioj0jQde19EJH.png

Yeah, its pretty stupid to make comparison in such quality, but hey we have direct feed shots too:
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_killzone_shadow_fall-22861-2660_0009.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_killzone_shadow_fall-22861-2660_0007.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_killzone_shadow_fall-22861-2660_0003.jpg

Very comparable resolution to Ryse.
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I think those pics definitely help illustrate the difference i'm talking about.
http://i5.minus.com/iY3VerKPTgBGw.jpg

Look at that ground texture and poor geometry on the arena floor. The lighting that you are hyping to all heaven effects nothing outside the characters. It has no variance between the different physical materials and gives the scene a washed out look. Im betting there's no HDR or if there is, its the poorest implementation in a while.

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No tessellation? There isnt even one object there for tessellation, so how have You judged that? And Ryse using tessellation for water and vegetation for sure, probably on some geometry too.
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There's an entire floor there. Walls with various protrusions and intrusions. Etc. They instead decide to leave a bland wall texture with plain blocky geometry. Its behind in both a technical and artistic sense.


Meanwhile KZSF can show alot denser worlds which much more detail.

*Bullshots*

http://images.gamersyde.com/image_killzone_shadow_fall-22861-2660_0008.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_killzone_shadow_fall-22861-2660_0005.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_killzone_shadow_fall-22861-2660_0007.jpg

Ignoring the SSAA and AF, its really not even close.
 
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G_Berry

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Jack cw said:
According to DF, yes it dipped under 45fps at times.
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Ok. In single player sure (just read the df face off) but multi is 95% at 60fps.

If the single player of kz was locked at 30 (extra gfx) and multi was 60 fps 95% of the time, I'd be happy.
 
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