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Tales of Zestiria announced for PS3 [announced worldwide]
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HolyBaikal
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I liked the story in Tales of Graces. :<
No, in Abyss, the word used for that was 導師, and that's the same word used in the scan. However, they take liberty with this term in Abyss in both the English translation and IIRC in the original they used yomigana to give the term a new reading as well. The Japanese term is a more general term and does not at all indicate that there's any connection between the two.
Doushi ?
This word has been used since the first time they showed the game, nothing new then.
Booty Patrol
Banned
Something about her design reminds me a dragon. Wouldn't be surprised if she turned into one.
Her hair looks gray in the shots.
She looks good. Her outfit is nice. I'm surprised we got another female character after Edna though. I thought they'd switch to a male character this time. I'm guessing the next one will be a dude.
The genre for this game is "An RPG where passion lights up the world." It's catchphrase is "Tradition will one day become 'hope'." According to AbyssalChronicles.
That's fine but it doesn't make it not bad. I like plenty of terrible things.
As to the new character, not really feeling it. Her design feels mashed together. Even Edna has some clear theme to her.
Maybe we should wait for some extra shots of her character.
The designs are middle of the road for me so far. Better than some (Legendia, Phantasia, Eternia), not as good as others (Symphonia, Vesperia, Xillia especially Xillia 2, Graces).
Gonna have to see the whole cast though. I hope there are 8 characters, not 6. Also the cast needs some older members.
Gonna have to see the whole cast though. I hope there are 8 characters, not 6. Also the cast needs some older members.
Werewolf Jones
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A+ clothing design, but her actual design seems a bit weak but I do not like Inomata's character designs past clothing anyway.
To me it looks like every character designer got to do his/her usual style, unlike in Xillia where the designs were more normalized to some generic agreeable anime style. Honestly no really a fan of such mixed bags. Hope this doesn't extend to the game design (again) and the music.
It works way better in 2D than 3D clearly.
Hours Left
Member
The female character designs so far have been pretty awesome.
Still waiting for some cool male characters. Slay is okay, but Hubert 2.0 is pretty meh.
Still waiting for some cool male characters. Slay is okay, but Hubert 2.0 is pretty meh.
Yeah that's pretty much my opinion. I hope the personalities are more interesting than the designs, not holding my breath though as designs are usually a reflection of their personality/archetype. :x
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Hopefully the entire cast is not as horrible as Abyss.
Although if they do in the end then I'd be damn impressed because Abyss is hard to beat.
Although if they do in the end then I'd be damn impressed because Abyss is hard to beat.
Ditto. I think it's a marmite thing though. You either love 'em or you hate them.The Abyss had my favorite cast from Tales series...
Autofokus
Member
Do the Tales games play all the same?
I just bought Xillia (EU PSN sale), my very first Tales game and I'm just wondering if those games are really different (just based on the release schedule).
Only played ~2hours so far and it made a nice first impression. Any recommendations if I want to try another one afterwards? Is the latest always the 'best', like -I don't know- with sports games?
I just bought Xillia (EU PSN sale), my very first Tales game and I'm just wondering if those games are really different (just based on the release schedule).
Only played ~2hours so far and it made a nice first impression. Any recommendations if I want to try another one afterwards? Is the latest always the 'best', like -I don't know- with sports games?
The basic structures are very similar in terms of game design. For the battle system, the fundamental design is the same(free moving action style) but each title have their unique battle system.
And the latest is not always the best. There are some fantastic older Tales games. If you have PS3, you could get Tales of Graces f(which is suppose to have the best 3D battle system in the series) and you could play Xillia 2 when it comes out. Also there is Tales of Symphonia HD which released recently. Its based on gamecube/ps2 so the graphics are not that great but the overall game is considered one of the better tales games around.
Tales of Graces f has the best gameplay but it has bad characters and story.
Tales of Vesperia is imo the best 7th gen Tales of (haven't played Xillia 2). Battle system is similar to Xillia but a little more simple (no linking, no changing allies during battle) but it has the best cast I've seen in the series so far. Story is decent but the last 10 hours or so are a little weak. Cell-shaded graphics are wonderful. Sadly the PS3 version was never released in the West (so it's a 360 exclusive here).
Mendax
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they are very very long games. Xillia I loved every second of, and Graces F had me put off in the beginning by its childish display but that changes real fast after the intro level. The combat system in graces felt a bit off at first too but after the intro it might be the best ever (once you have unlocked some cool abilities and can chain them).
I think Vesperia has the best cast too.
Hahahaha good avatar quote. I can't be objective with ToV tbh. And puppy Repede is really cute
A little bit of new info, I think it should just be the usual Famitsu follow-up on stuff from the Jump leak last week.
Doushi
They are capable of entering into contracts with multiple Tenzoku. The ideal is for them to make a contract with a Tenzoku of all four elements, but almost none of the Doushi in history have accomplished that (another plot event they've made pretty obvious or outright confirmed...).
Battle Styles
So it looks like Zestiria's arte system/controls are based on Graces' A-arte and B-arte system. For now it seems like it's just continuing Graces' concept of getting rid of the normal attack button in favor of two arte buttons though (assuming they didn't dump it to L1 or something awkward like that), no confirmation of anything like arte trees for now. This may also make it safer assume this is using CC or something new instead of TP.
Humans' Battle Style
The Circle button is for Tokugi (I think these are usually called Base Artes in English?), which are faster and more mobile attacks. The X button is for Ougi (Arcane Artes), which are better at breaking through enemy defenses and I'm guessing are more powerful.
Tenzoku's Battle Style
The Circle button is for Tokugi that can be used to attack from mid-range, and the X button is for Tenkyoujutsu (magic artes), which are more powerful and can be used from a longer distance.
Artes
Miculio can learn the attacks Splash, Violet High, Twin Flow, Kirimizu, and Taramizu.
Edna can learn Air Pressure, Rock Lance, Embrace End, Powder Snow, and Sky.
Doushi
They are capable of entering into contracts with multiple Tenzoku. The ideal is for them to make a contract with a Tenzoku of all four elements, but almost none of the Doushi in history have accomplished that (another plot event they've made pretty obvious or outright confirmed...).
Battle Styles
So it looks like Zestiria's arte system/controls are based on Graces' A-arte and B-arte system. For now it seems like it's just continuing Graces' concept of getting rid of the normal attack button in favor of two arte buttons though (assuming they didn't dump it to L1 or something awkward like that), no confirmation of anything like arte trees for now. This may also make it safer assume this is using CC or something new instead of TP.
Humans' Battle Style
The Circle button is for Tokugi (I think these are usually called Base Artes in English?), which are faster and more mobile attacks. The X button is for Ougi (Arcane Artes), which are better at breaking through enemy defenses and I'm guessing are more powerful.
Tenzoku's Battle Style
The Circle button is for Tokugi that can be used to attack from mid-range, and the X button is for Tenkyoujutsu (magic artes), which are more powerful and can be used from a longer distance.
Artes
Miculio can learn the attacks Splash, Violet High, Twin Flow, Kirimizu, and Taramizu.
Edna can learn Air Pressure, Rock Lance, Embrace End, Powder Snow, and Sky.
Dimentionalist
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Very glad to hear it's taking inspiration from one of the very best 3D Tales battle systems, but I really hope it isn't a Team Symphonia-style evolution a la Abyss to Vesperia. One of the strengths of Udo's battle systems is the uniqueness of those systems, and one of my qualms with Team Symphonia stems from the minimal evolution in combat between their games. Graces' combat is (mostly) well liked, but I hope they aren't just tweaking it and calling it a day simply because it was popular enough to do well in surveys.
Here's to hoping the limiter is something special.
Here's to hoping the limiter is something special.
Graces f's battle system? All they have to do is not make an insufferable main character and have a decent story and this might be my favorite 3D Tales game.
SatelliteOfLove
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"Battle Styles
So it looks like Zestiria's arte system/controls are based on Graces' A-arte and B-arte system. For now it seems like it's just continuing Graces' concept of getting rid of the normal attack button in favor of two arte buttons though (assuming they didn't dump it to L1 or something awkward like that), no confirmation of anything like arte trees for now. This may also make it safer assume this is using CC or something new instead of TP."
Ahhh....there we go: another 150 hours of goodness.
So it looks like Zestiria's arte system/controls are based on Graces' A-arte and B-arte system. For now it seems like it's just continuing Graces' concept of getting rid of the normal attack button in favor of two arte buttons though (assuming they didn't dump it to L1 or something awkward like that), no confirmation of anything like arte trees for now. This may also make it safer assume this is using CC or something new instead of TP."
Ahhh....there we go: another 150 hours of goodness.
The Human style sounds a lot like Asbel/Hubert/Sophia. The Tenzoku style sounds like Cheria/Pascal/Malik.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Graces battle system? fuck yeah!
Now it just needs to have a decent story.
Now it just needs to have a decent story.
Booty Patrol
Banned
God is real. TP can fuck off.
TheGreatLugia
Banned
More Graces combat is never a bad thing. Hopefully the story will be a bit more interesting, though.
nintendoman58
Member
What's this? This game will have the same battle system as Graces, one of my favourite PS3 games of all time?
Well my hype for this game has significantly increased! Now please let the characters and story be enjoyable. Please.
Well my hype for this game has significantly increased! Now please let the characters and story be enjoyable. Please.
They said there would be new systems, so yeah, hopefully it's a change up. And please add in air combat; it was sorely missing in Graces.
Do you guys think this info is worth a new thread? A lot of people here seem to like Graces' combat.
clay_ghost
Member
Best news ever!
Hours Left
Member
Graces battle system?
That's probably a good idea. This thread has become a bit of a megathread, which we typically want to avoid. New news and all that. Actually had a brief chat about this topic with other mods today.
Whoever wants to, please post a thread with recent information, and it might be worth it to post some of the recent screens too for those who don't frequent this thread. Don't rush to post a new one. I'll lock this one after.
Yes. TP sucks.
I was going to say that there had to be six characters based on the Doushi explanation that mentions making contract with Tenzoku of all four elements, but then there was the description of the battle system that normalizes things (at least conceptually) to Humans vs Tenzoku. if there were only six charactersIt would "accelerate" the potential pairing and just in general the relationship of Slay and Alicia, in spite of the apparent Laila deal, because they're the only non-Tenzoku people. Unless Bamco pulls a fast one. Hey, the Asbel-Sophie and Asbel-Richard relationship are given more time than the Asbel-Cheria relationship.
But would Bamco really just go with four Tenzoku and two humans? You could attempt to pull a fast one with the wind Tenzoku character (he wears green and such but he's not actually Tenzoku, you have to find a wind Tenzoku to contract with in-game and a clue that he's not Tenzoku is his melee-oriented battle style) but I don't see Bamco going through with that either. could be seven or eight characters. Which I don't like =\, eight is too big
Anyway it's awesome to see something Graces-inspired but I find the separation between Tenzoku and Human battle styles a little off putting.
Now we just have to see what exploration of the overworld is like!
I'll handle it.
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