HolyBaikal
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I'm really a fan of the new character they've revealed. Miclio seems interesting.
I think he has my favourite design revealed yet.
I think he has my favourite design revealed yet.
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Tales of Zestiria announced for PS3 [announced worldwide]
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staticneuron
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I don't understand this. I just beat Xillia as well, found it far more interesting than vesperia. The Skits, the ensemble cast, was fantastic, and everything extra was story based for the most part except for the mysterious orbs and the devil arms. I really like the fight mechanic and the fact we could level up the store, other than that the art could have been sharper (one thing I give a nod to vesperia for) but I preferred everything else.
I hope this new game keeps up the character interaction and humor that Xillia had.
IMHO 2016 would even be too early for that, given how they've been going about the idea of next gen (I'm talking about release date btw, not info).
Hopefully it doesnt recycle as much as Xillia and cut content that is popular in the series. (Cameos, Events, etc) but overall I agree that Xillia overall is better game than Vesperia. Vesperia visuals aged well but not the gameplay. Vesperia cast might get a bit of the edge but both sides are great.
I was rather thinking about 2016 too, but we have no idea about how "big" Zestiria is, just that they're still reusing the same graphic engine, and for all we know with the Bamco staff shuffle it's not impossible for them to already have another team working on a PS4 title for a few months already
I don't think there's a PS4 title scheduled for 2015, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility yet
Xillia had a lot of steps in the right direction (story being better, solid cast, a decent soundtrack) but went a few steps back in the gameplay department...which although Xillia's battle system is more "fun", Vesperia's is easily more polished and balanced for bosses and stuff. Plus the lack of sidequests in Xillia is disappointing. Luckily Xillia 2 fixes a few of these issues so I hope Zesteria keeps Xillia's presentation and makes sure to keep the game content heavy.
If that were the case then they wouldn't have given the 20th anniversary title to Zestiria but the next gen game. I disagree entirely with your assessment.
That is IF they really do already have a team working on a next gen title...
Its safe to assume that they always have a few people working on the next title as very early pre-production. Always.
What about two anniversary titles ?
Oh well, they'll go with Tales of Zestiria Explosive Full Boost on PS4 then.
The planning is just rather empty regarding Tales of, it's good for them to calm down but there is next to nothing scheduled right now.
Well, obviously.
The question is rather how many people are working on it, since Xillia 2 didn't mobilize as much staff as Xillia, Zestiria was probably already in full development mode way before the release of Xillia 2, I was wondering if it's actually the same for Zestiria/Next title after seeing what Zestiria looks like.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Is Tempest R ever going to happen?
Both Vita titles bombed, so probably not....
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I figured as much. Tempest has such a bad reputation among Tales fans that a remake would probably sell terribly regardless of how much more improved it would be.
Not even that, Tempest was just a terrible game in general. Not like those other 2 DS games were amazing either.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Hearts was awesome. Innocence DS would've been decent if the dungeons weren't so terrible.
Matt Attack
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I'm a really big fan of the new character's design, which is good considering I don't particularly like how Slay looks.
ShockingAlberto
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Hearts was pretty good. The post-Vita port lionizing of Innocence was real confusing, though.
The question whether they rebuilt a second team is the real wildcard here. Though at this point I'd assume work on an engine for PS4 will be centralized at Bandai Namco Studios and the first games using it won't be Tales ones.
It seems like Inomata was going for a mysterious, less human look with this character's eyes and they lost that with his model by giving him big anime eyes similar to the other two characters, which gives him an even more typical bishounen face instead of something with a little more character. The kinda generic anime eyes they use in the character models also makes me notice the times where it's like their eyes aren't focused on anything, or they're unnaturally focused on some random object or person. Looks weird lol.
That little complaint aside, this character looks like he would fit in as a character from Destiny or Eternia. I don't think any of the designs are amazing, but it seems like they're dialing things back to designs that wouldn't look too out of place in the first tree or four Tales games, which is interesting. Revealing one character at a time lines up for a 6-person party if they're trying to have every playable character known by the Tales of Festival, but at the moment it still doesn't really come across as if they're targeting a late Summer/early Fall release, so I can still see an 8+ group happening.
And it looks like our inevitable made-up Tales name for the casts' magic and super powers is "Tenkyoujutsu" (天響術. Basically pure individuals can access some ability that lets them use magic and stuff. His expertise lying in water elemental Tenkyoujutsu makes me wonder if it'll be like Destiny R and every character will specialize in one or two attributes, requiring some mix and matching for maximum effectiveness (already Srei, Alisha, and Mecurio would cover slash, Shot/Pierce, and Strike respectively, in regards to the physical attack attributes).
That little complaint aside, this character looks like he would fit in as a character from Destiny or Eternia. I don't think any of the designs are amazing, but it seems like they're dialing things back to designs that wouldn't look too out of place in the first tree or four Tales games, which is interesting. Revealing one character at a time lines up for a 6-person party if they're trying to have every playable character known by the Tales of Festival, but at the moment it still doesn't really come across as if they're targeting a late Summer/early Fall release, so I can still see an 8+ group happening.
And it looks like our inevitable made-up Tales name for the casts' magic and super powers is "Tenkyoujutsu" (天響術
. Basically pure individuals can access some ability that lets them use magic and stuff. His expertise lying in water elemental Tenkyoujutsu makes me wonder if it'll be like Destiny R and every character will specialize in one or two attributes, requiring some mix and matching for maximum effectiveness (already Srei, Alisha, and Mecurio would cover slash, Shot/Pierce, and Strike respectively, in regards to the physical attack attributes).It seems like Inomata was going for a mysterious, less human look with this character's eyes and they lost that with his model by giving him big anime eyes similar to the other two characters, which gives him an even more typical bishounen face instead of something with a little more character. The kinda generic anime eyes they use in the character models also makes me notice the times where it's like their eyes aren't focused on anything, or they're unnaturally focused on some random object or person. Looks weird lol.
That little complaint aside, this character looks like he would fit in as a character from Destiny or Eternia. I don't think any of the designs are amazing, but it seems like they're dialing things back to designs that wouldn't look too out of place in the first tree or four Tales games, which is interesting. Revealing one character at a time lines up for a 6-person party if they're trying to have every playable character known by the Tales of Festival, but at the moment it still doesn't really come across as if they're targeting a late Summer/early Fall release, so I can still see an 8+ group happening.
And it looks like our inevitable made-up Tales name for the casts' magic and super powers is "Tenkyoujutsu" (天響術
His design is the most interesting so far, in large part due to the use of color for me. More lavender or purple would've made it sweeter. I do agree somewhat with the eyes, at least in the official art he just looks dull but in that screencap of him where he's scowling he looks cooler and the idea of it reflecting some sort of antagonism or the personality friction between himself and the main character is what makes that image stand out for me. I wish his hairstyle was a little different too, right now he looks too shota. Otherwise, I do quite like him.
I also think the elemental expertise thing seems to suggest we'll get a fire and an earth and a wind character. I suppose it's possible the roster will get bumped to eight and those last two can have light and shadow elements relegated to them (or they can just not care about the pattern with the last two,) but I don't see it as likely.
Yep.
But what are the biggest licenses of Bamco right now ?
It feels like more and more of their biggest names are going f2p (Tekken, Ace Combat, Soul Calibur, even Im@s has a weird platform...) and I'm not even sure they have many licenses aside from the Tales series that can crack 1 million copies for an episode worldwide
(NB : I'm talking about Bandai Namco developped games, CC2 From Software
and others aren't really relevant in this discussion)
True, Bamco's handling of brands is a mess since quite some time already. I honestly lost track of what's still done in-house and what has been outsourced. Now Tales can finally join that uncertainty as well!
catashtrophe
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I've never played a tales game before so which is the best one to buy for PS3?
Graces F or Xillia 1?
Graces F or Xillia 1?
Depends.
Gameplay great, bad to mediocre everything else: Graces f
Good across the board: Xillia
Depends on what you want from a JRPG.
If gameplay is more important: Graces F (Xillia still has great gameplay, but Graces F has the best combat of the 3D Tales game, hands down)
If story, characters, and music are more important: Xillia (Graces' story and characters are so generic and bland, it's kinda insulting)
Personally I would recommend Xillia since the gameplay is more inline with your average Tales game and it has a direct sequel coming out this year.
catashtrophe
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If it makes any difference I think Ni No Kuni is great and about half way through Eternal Sonata and enjoying it as well. So based off that would Xillia be the best to get for my 1st Tales experience?
SolidSnakex
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NnK is very story/character driven, so Xillia is definitely the one to go with.
Graces has an awesome gameplay, but story and characters are a bit childish.
Xillia is more mature, but the game's overall quality is quite bad.
There's nothing bad about Xillia's quality (let alone "quite bad"). The only viable complaint is the amount of asset reuse.
Boss fight design and balance is pretty bad. And lack of end-game content. It's still pretty fun despite that but it definitely has issues outside of just the asset reuse.
The boss battles are generally easy, but I don't particularly care either way (the Devil Beast bonus bosses have been more challenging than anything else). Having only played Abyss before it, I haven't seen any difference in regard to balance. Not particularly concerned with end-game content (unless it concerns Mystic Artes, which it has been lacking; that limited amount did bother me).
Fixed, as it wouldn't apply otherwise.
New info up today. It seems that village Slay was being raised in is actually full of the Tenzoku, and not humans. But Slay treats them like they're the same as him 'cause he's never really seen a human outside of the village. But normal humans can't see 'em, so it'll be quite a surprised once he brings Alicia to where they live.
Also, they're hinting at modifiable default costumes. You can remove Slay's really big cape, for instance.
Also, they're hinting at modifiable default costumes. You can remove Slay's really big cape, for instance.
Still a downgrade from Vesperia though.
I still think its matter of style choice. I agree that they seem to have put more effort in Vesperia, but I like the character details of Zestiria more than Vesperia.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Oh boy, are they going to have another RACISM plot?
If you play on a harder difficulty they had the tendency of auto breaking out of combos often which really goes against how the battle system is designed.
And really, another racism plot? Lol.
Racism against a race humans can't even see? That would be dumb as hell.
new screenshots
I must say the graphics looks improved from Xillia.
I lol'd at Slay head position and expression.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I want to buy this but I feel like an enhanced PS4 port will be announced after its release. It would make sense as there will very little for it to compete with on the platform.
Ugh... The main character just looks so lame, just like he was crapped out of a US "how to draw manga" book.
At least Inomata did OK with the new character, it's no Destiny or Rebirth work, but the way they are crapping out the games now, a toll was bound to be taken on the designers.
Actually, this new guy looks a biiit familiar in design.... Too familiar...
At least Inomata did OK with the new character, it's no Destiny or Rebirth work, but the way they are crapping out the games now, a toll was bound to be taken on the designers.
Actually, this new guy looks a biiit familiar in design.... Too familiar...
I dunno Rebirth's racism plot is more dumb. Wouldn't be completely out of the question.
SatelliteOfLove
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This idea could go so wrong, but could be so right...I just don't trust them to pull it off, y aknow?
He looks like he was DRESSED by Fukushima though (note the angular flaps).
Also, the removal thing is neat
as long as it isn't behind a paywall lololol
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